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Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
Why are we getting the short stick with half-assed MMO's then? Seriously Trion, Arena Net, SOE, Nexon, Gpotato, Cryptic, and etc. I'm calling you all out you lazy sons of a *****es. Why are we getting the bottom of the bin content? I don't see a single reason to continue buying products from these major MMO developers anymore. Everyone lets move to PS4; because they obviously have all of the quality MMO's coming out next year.
Almost all questions like this can be answered with one word. MONEY
The money is with the consoles. We can all thank F2p for that. PC games have to go f2p to get people to even try them out anymore. Look at your local pc gaming geniuses Blizzard even they are jumping ship - see D3
Consoles use the good ole method of advertisement to generate buzz and sell stuff.
PC games have taken the Casino approach. The casino hopes that gambling addict comes in and blows his/her paycheck. Likewise f2p hopes to snag that gaming addict to blow his or her paycheck on their pay to win cash shops. It's a huge turn off and it's why when I finally quit playing WoW I will sell my pc and not look back.
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Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
Dev's have said on multiple interviews that it will be 100% solo-able. It is going to fall into the same pitfall as defiance has. Being a online game where you see other people running around, 1) never talk to them (2) have zero reason to socialize (3) has zero community.
Originally posted by ragz45 Dev's have said on multiple interviews that it will be 100% solo-able. It is going to fall into the same pitfall as defiance has. Being a online game where you see other people running around, 1) never talk to them (2) have zero reason to socialize (3) has zero community.
It is still interesting to see a game like this , it shows us what can and should be done graphics wise for new Gen mmo's but instead we get wildstar or eqn which i doubt will look anything as good as this if itd using planetside 2 engine
I just messaged my one of my friends. Who's an avid PS4 customer... I'm really pissed about this. The is no reason to continue playing my PC if the only thing we're getting as far as MMO gaming is: Wildstar, ESO, EQ:Next, Neverwinter Online, and Dragon's Prophet. Sure there's some decent ones off in the really distant future like: Archeage, Bless Online, Black Gold, Black Desert, and Ein Online. But from what I've been seeing these PS4 titles have just been blowing me away.
Seriously, there's not even a reason to buy that over sized $500.00 T.V. remote called an Xbox: ONE.
Maybe for you but for me yes. Killer instinct(xbox only), Dead rising 3 mmo (only on xbox), Titan Fall (only on xbox) and HALO 5.
499.99$ is nothing when the ps3 came out at 600$ and my 4g gtx 680 cost 550 alone so don't bug me one bit.
Dead Rising 3 isnt an mmo its just open world like GTA and it could be an exclusive for a short time like most capcom games, killer instinct looks exactly like street fighter 4 and Titan Fall is not an mmo and its on PC too.
Originally posted by ragz45 Dev's have said on multiple interviews that it will be 100% solo-able. It is going to fall into the same pitfall as defiance has. Being a online game where you see other people running around, 1) never talk to them (2) have zero reason to socialize (3) has zero community.
Why are we getting the short stick with half-assed MMO's then? Seriously Trion, Arena Net, SOE, Nexon, Gpotato, Cryptic, and etc. I'm calling you all out you lazy sons of a *****es. Why are we getting the bottom of the bin content? I don't see a single reason to continue buying products from these major MMO developers anymore. Everyone lets move to PS4; because they obviously have all of the quality MMO's coming out next year.
Trion and ArenaNet have some pretty great offerings out there. If The Division makes you think ill on all those companies, perhaps MMORPGs aren't the genre you want?
I've been putting a ton of time into GW2 and find that the more I invest (time-wise) the better it becomes.
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
I just messaged my one of my friends. Who's an avid PS4 customer... I'm really pissed about this. The is no reason to continue playing my PC if the only thing we're getting as far as MMO gaming is: Wildstar, ESO, EQ:Next, Neverwinter Online, and Dragon's Prophet. Sure there's some decent ones off in the really distant future like: Archeage, Bless Online, Black Gold, Black Desert, and Ein Online. But from what I've been seeing these PS4 titles have just been blowing me away.
Seriously, there's not even a reason to buy that over sized $500.00 T.V. remote called an Xbox: ONE.
Maybe for you but for me yes. Killer instinct(xbox only), Dead rising 3 mmo (only on xbox), Titan Fall (only on xbox) and HALO 5.
499.99$ is nothing when the ps3 came out at 600$ and my 4g gtx 680 cost 550 alone so don't bug me one bit.
Dead Rising 3 isnt an mmo its just open world like GTA and it could be an exclusive for a short time like most capcom games, killer instinct looks exactly like street fighter 4 and Titan Fall is not an mmo and its on PC too.
Well the guys at IGN were saying Dead Rising 3 is a mmo so go tell them that. Killer instinct looks like killer instinct and looks nothing like a cartoon. Not sure what you were watching. Never said Titan Fall was a mmo and seen that they're putting it on PC from the EA show. Didn't know about PC till the EA show.
Capcom said its a open world zombie game and they made the game. And the guy in the trailer is the protagonist, so i guess everyone in the mmo will be playing the same character huh. IGN is just makin up rumors now. And killer instinct still looks like street fighter 4.
Looks awesome. But I find 3rd person view very hard to play in; I need first-person perspective.
Luckily, i don't need you to like me to enjoy video games. -nariusseldon. In F2P I think it's more a case of the game's trying to play the player's. -laserit
Why are we getting the short stick with half-assed MMO's then? Seriously Trion, Arena Net, SOE, Nexon, Gpotato, Cryptic, and etc. I'm calling you all out you lazy sons of a *****es. Why are we getting the bottom of the bin content? I don't see a single reason to continue buying products from these major MMO developers anymore. Everyone lets move to PS4; because they obviously have all of the quality MMO's coming out next year.
LOL, this was my first reaction also. I want to be knocked off my feet by an upcoming MMO.
Honestly it probally will not happen until wow dies and devs finally relize that just cloning wow won't cut it anymore. Till then expect more linear train rides to level cap with a lack fo anything to do at endgame other than the same raids over and over. Also Gpotato is not a mmo dev, they just publish them.
ESO looks pretty craptastic, and nothing else on radar for mmo's really seem all that great, wildstar kinda sounds like it may be nice but haven't played it so can't really comment, but it does seem like it will end up being yet another linear on-rails ride to lv cap, though I can hope its diffrent because its the only mmo coming out this year so far that seems worth trying. MMOs have really gone down the shitter, they need to make them more group oriented and less single player games. In most mmo's today no one parties up because well the game is too easy and too soloable so they don't need to. MMOrpg's used to be about grouping up to do stuff at all levels. I wish they'd bring back forced grouping to mmorpgs, maybe then they might actually become decent again.
Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:
A. Proven right (if something bad happens)
or
B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)
Originally posted by dmcg you guys are too easily fooled by staged demos
It might be staged, as in who they are fighting is choreographed, however it is still in game footage showing gameplay and graphic which look amazing.
Yea it gave a good presentation on many mmo and rpg elements, like Crowd control (fleshing out the mobs from inside), group buffs, pets (turrets), healer, skills (rolling grenade), pvp at the end, the size of the map, loot.
Best Physics, Mob A.I., Attack Impact, Graphics, NPC/Environment Interactions I ever seen in an mmorpg.
On top of that it has a real cover system
I dont even want to look at Wildstar or any of those so called AAA mmos now.
Originally posted by dmcg you guys are too easily fooled by staged demos
It might be staged, as in who they are fighting is choreographed, however it is still in game footage showing gameplay and graphic which look amazing.
Yea it gave a good presentation on many mmo and rpg elements, like Crowd control (fleshing out the mobs from inside), group buffs, pets (turrets), healer, skills (rolling grenade), pvp at the end, the size of the map, loot.
Best Physics, Mob A.I., Attack Impact, Graphics, NPC/Environment Interactions I ever seen in an mmorpg.
On top of that it has a real cover system
I dont even want to look at Wildstar or any of those so called AAA mmos now.
Thats something I keep questioning. It is an MMO, as in a large amount of people online in the same area at the same time.
But is it just like a big MOBA in the city, or is there progression, crafting, somethign to do besides shoot the other guy - like darkfall (very pvp based but many other things to do as well)?
More MOBA or more MMO?
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is bad.
Originally posted by dmcg you guys are too easily fooled by staged demos
It might be staged, as in who they are fighting is choreographed, however it is still in game footage showing gameplay and graphic which look amazing.
Yea it gave a good presentation on many mmo and rpg elements, like Crowd control (fleshing out the mobs from inside), group buffs, pets (turrets), healer, skills (rolling grenade), pvp at the end, the size of the map, loot.
Best Physics, Mob A.I., Attack Impact, Graphics, NPC/Environment Interactions I ever seen in an mmorpg.
On top of that it has a real cover system
I dont even want to look at Wildstar or any of those so called AAA mmos now.
Thats something I keep questioning. It is an MMO, as in a large amount of people online in the same area at the same time.
But is it just like a big MOBA in the city, or is there progression, crafting, somethign to do besides shoot the other guy - like darkfall (very pvp based but many other things to do as well)?
More MOBA or more MMO?
We'll have to wait and find out but both The Division and Destiny are both deliberately avoiding the word Massive in their descriptions.I think we are looking at smaller scale multiplayer and in other cases single player games having MMO features like persistent online worlds etc and also a blurring of multiplayer and single player experiences.I for one welcome such changes and am excited to see how this plays out.
We'll have to wait and find out but both The Division and Destiny are both deliberately avoiding the word Massive in their descriptions.I think we are looking at smaller scale multiplayer and in other cases single player games having MMO features like persistent online worlds etc and also a blurring of multiplayer and single player experiences.I for one welcome such changes and am excited to see how this plays out.
Yeah. I care less if these games are MMOs with some proper definition. I care if they are fun.
And people says there is no innovation. These are innovations.
Originally posted by dmcg you guys are too easily fooled by staged demos
It might be staged, as in who they are fighting is choreographed, however it is still in game footage showing gameplay and graphic which look amazing.
Yea it gave a good presentation on many mmo and rpg elements, like Crowd control (fleshing out the mobs from inside), group buffs, pets (turrets), healer, skills (rolling grenade), pvp at the end, the size of the map, loot.
Best Physics, Mob A.I., Attack Impact, Graphics, NPC/Environment Interactions I ever seen in an mmorpg.
On top of that it has a real cover system
I dont even want to look at Wildstar or any of those so called AAA mmos now.
Thats something I keep questioning. It is an MMO, as in a large amount of people online in the same area at the same time.
But is it just like a big MOBA in the city, or is there progression, crafting, somethign to do besides shoot the other guy - like darkfall (very pvp based but many other things to do as well)?
More MOBA or more MMO?
At the end when they zoomed out into the world map it showed many other red dots all over the map which are players
Originally posted by dmcg you guys are too easily fooled by staged demos
It might be staged, as in who they are fighting is choreographed, however it is still in game footage showing gameplay and graphic which look amazing.
Yea it gave a good presentation on many mmo and rpg elements, like Crowd control (fleshing out the mobs from inside), group buffs, pets (turrets), healer, skills (rolling grenade), pvp at the end, the size of the map, loot.
Best Physics, Mob A.I., Attack Impact, Graphics, NPC/Environment Interactions I ever seen in an mmorpg.
On top of that it has a real cover system
I dont even want to look at Wildstar or any of those so called AAA mmos now.
Thats something I keep questioning. It is an MMO, as in a large amount of people online in the same area at the same time.
But is it just like a big MOBA in the city, or is there progression, crafting, somethign to do besides shoot the other guy - like darkfall (very pvp based but many other things to do as well)?
More MOBA or more MMO?
At the end when they zoomed out into the world map it showed many other red dots all over the map which are players
Yes but same question. Is it just a big version of 007 or are there other activities besides combat?
The 007 game could be fun, actually that game was really fun, but what else is there to do?
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is bad.
LOL, this was my first reaction also. I want to be knocked off my feet by an upcoming MMO.
Honestly it probally will not happen until wow dies and devs finally relize that just cloning wow won't cut it anymore. Till then expect more linear train rides to level cap with a lack fo anything to do at endgame other than the same raids over and over. Also Gpotato is not a mmo dev, they just publish them.
ESO looks pretty craptastic, and nothing else on radar for mmo's really seem all that great, wildstar kinda sounds like it may be nice but haven't played it so can't really comment, but it does seem like it will end up being yet another linear on-rails ride to lv cap, though I can hope its diffrent because its the only mmo coming out this year so far that seems worth trying. MMOs have really gone down the shitter, they need to make them more group oriented and less single player games. In most mmo's today no one parties up because well the game is too easy and too soloable so they don't need to. MMOrpg's used to be about grouping up to do stuff at all levels. I wish they'd bring back forced grouping to mmorpgs, maybe then they might actually become decent again.
It's unlikely to ever be knocked off your feet by an upcoming MMO, because by virtue of MMO architecture's limitations they will always lag behind. It's not an absolute rule, of course, because games aren't always going to knock you off your feet purely through brute force graphical prowess. But it's a lot harder for MMOs to be staggeringly impressive than singleplayer or small-scale multiplayer games.
Also it's a bit confusing that GW2 came out not to long ago, yet you criticize linear-on-rails MMOs, and then (the clincher) you go on to be excited by Wildstar's potential.
I do agree with the grouping comment though, as I'd love to see more MMORPGs with better group content (one of the few true shortcomings of GW2.)
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
Originally posted by dmcg you guys are too easily fooled by staged demos
It might be staged, as in who they are fighting is choreographed, however it is still in game footage showing gameplay and graphic which look amazing.
Yea it gave a good presentation on many mmo and rpg elements, like Crowd control (fleshing out the mobs from inside), group buffs, pets (turrets), healer, skills (rolling grenade), pvp at the end, the size of the map, loot.
Best Physics, Mob A.I., Attack Impact, Graphics, NPC/Environment Interactions I ever seen in an mmorpg.
On top of that it has a real cover system
I dont even want to look at Wildstar or any of those so called AAA mmos now.
Thats something I keep questioning. It is an MMO, as in a large amount of people online in the same area at the same time.
But is it just like a big MOBA in the city, or is there progression, crafting, somethign to do besides shoot the other guy - like darkfall (very pvp based but many other things to do as well)?
More MOBA or more MMO?
At the end when they zoomed out into the world map it showed many other red dots all over the map which are players
Yes but same question. Is it just a big version of 007 or are there other activities besides combat?
The 007 game could be fun, actually that game was really fun, but what else is there to do?
If you mean raiding, crafting, public events and housing we will just have to wait and see...out of speculation i think it will have some form of crafting mainly because its a post apocalyptic setting and that tells me there will be scavenging of parts and stuff. I think it will have more group oriented content but not sure if they will have 40 man raids like in WoW, maybe up to 12 or something, imagine raiding a prison for food and materials. Housing is prolly the least chance of being a feature in the game since i dont think most console gamers are even really into that, personally im not. And public events are becoming a common thing in modern mmos, even destiny has public events shown in their gameplay so i think theres a chance it will be in The Division too...of course im just speculating in the end.
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Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
Almost all questions like this can be answered with one word. MONEY
The money is with the consoles. We can all thank F2p for that. PC games have to go f2p to get people to even try them out anymore. Look at your local pc gaming geniuses Blizzard even they are jumping ship - see D3
Consoles use the good ole method of advertisement to generate buzz and sell stuff.
PC games have taken the Casino approach. The casino hopes that gambling addict comes in and blows his/her paycheck. Likewise f2p hopes to snag that gaming addict to blow his or her paycheck on their pay to win cash shops. It's a huge turn off and it's why when I finally quit playing WoW I will sell my pc and not look back.
Congratulations f2p!!!
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
It is still interesting to see a game like this , it shows us what can and should be done graphics wise for new Gen mmo's but instead we get wildstar or eqn which i doubt will look anything as good as this if itd using planetside 2 engine
There is looting of other players who have fallen.
For me...thats a deal breaker.After UO I swore I would never play a game where others can take my things....and I haven't.
Dead Rising 3 isnt an mmo its just open world like GTA and it could be an exclusive for a short time like most capcom games, killer instinct looks exactly like street fighter 4 and Titan Fall is not an mmo and its on PC too.
just like every PC mmorpgs post WoW
Trion and ArenaNet have some pretty great offerings out there. If The Division makes you think ill on all those companies, perhaps MMORPGs aren't the genre you want?
I've been putting a ton of time into GW2 and find that the more I invest (time-wise) the better it becomes.
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
well, if so, then what would the name of that tablet be (which "chriss" is playing on) for the ps4?
"I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"
Capcom said its a open world zombie game and they made the game. And the guy in the trailer is the protagonist, so i guess everyone in the mmo will be playing the same character huh. IGN is just makin up rumors now. And killer instinct still looks like street fighter 4.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/11/e3-2013-new-dead-rising-3-details-revealed Where does it state its an mmo
Looks awesome. But I find 3rd person view very hard to play in; I need first-person perspective.
Luckily, i don't need you to like me to enjoy video games. -nariusseldon.
In F2P I think it's more a case of the game's trying to play the player's. -laserit
It might be staged, as in who they are fighting is choreographed, however it is still in game footage showing gameplay and graphic which look amazing.
Honestly it probally will not happen until wow dies and devs finally relize that just cloning wow won't cut it anymore. Till then expect more linear train rides to level cap with a lack fo anything to do at endgame other than the same raids over and over. Also Gpotato is not a mmo dev, they just publish them.
ESO looks pretty craptastic, and nothing else on radar for mmo's really seem all that great, wildstar kinda sounds like it may be nice but haven't played it so can't really comment, but it does seem like it will end up being yet another linear on-rails ride to lv cap, though I can hope its diffrent because its the only mmo coming out this year so far that seems worth trying. MMOs have really gone down the shitter, they need to make them more group oriented and less single player games. In most mmo's today no one parties up because well the game is too easy and too soloable so they don't need to. MMOrpg's used to be about grouping up to do stuff at all levels. I wish they'd bring back forced grouping to mmorpgs, maybe then they might actually become decent again.
Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:
A. Proven right (if something bad happens)
or
B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)
Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!
Yea it gave a good presentation on many mmo and rpg elements, like Crowd control (fleshing out the mobs from inside), group buffs, pets (turrets), healer, skills (rolling grenade), pvp at the end, the size of the map, loot.
Best Physics, Mob A.I., Attack Impact, Graphics, NPC/Environment Interactions I ever seen in an mmorpg.
On top of that it has a real cover system
I dont even want to look at Wildstar or any of those so called AAA mmos now.
Thats something I keep questioning. It is an MMO, as in a large amount of people online in the same area at the same time.
But is it just like a big MOBA in the city, or is there progression, crafting, somethign to do besides shoot the other guy - like darkfall (very pvp based but many other things to do as well)?
More MOBA or more MMO?
We'll have to wait and find out but both The Division and Destiny are both deliberately avoiding the word Massive in their descriptions.I think we are looking at smaller scale multiplayer and in other cases single player games having MMO features like persistent online worlds etc and also a blurring of multiplayer and single player experiences.I for one welcome such changes and am excited to see how this plays out.
Yeah. I care less if these games are MMOs with some proper definition. I care if they are fun.
And people says there is no innovation. These are innovations.
At the end when they zoomed out into the world map it showed many other red dots all over the map which are players
Yes but same question. Is it just a big version of 007 or are there other activities besides combat?
The 007 game could be fun, actually that game was really fun, but what else is there to do?
If the combat is fun, that would be enough for me.
It's unlikely to ever be knocked off your feet by an upcoming MMO, because by virtue of MMO architecture's limitations they will always lag behind. It's not an absolute rule, of course, because games aren't always going to knock you off your feet purely through brute force graphical prowess. But it's a lot harder for MMOs to be staggeringly impressive than singleplayer or small-scale multiplayer games.
Also it's a bit confusing that GW2 came out not to long ago, yet you criticize linear-on-rails MMOs, and then (the clincher) you go on to be excited by Wildstar's potential.
I do agree with the grouping comment though, as I'd love to see more MMORPGs with better group content (one of the few true shortcomings of GW2.)
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
If you mean raiding, crafting, public events and housing we will just have to wait and see...out of speculation i think it will have some form of crafting mainly because its a post apocalyptic setting and that tells me there will be scavenging of parts and stuff. I think it will have more group oriented content but not sure if they will have 40 man raids like in WoW, maybe up to 12 or something, imagine raiding a prison for food and materials. Housing is prolly the least chance of being a feature in the game since i dont think most console gamers are even really into that, personally im not. And public events are becoming a common thing in modern mmos, even destiny has public events shown in their gameplay so i think theres a chance it will be in The Division too...of course im just speculating in the end.