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Consoles are going Sub based, but MMOs are going free to play! Whats going on?

MMOExposedMMOExposed lalal land, DCPosts: 6,255Member Uncommon

Consoles are going sub based of multiplayer, while MMOs are going free to play now. Whats going on?

Seem like some kind of culture change. But what triggered it?

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  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread PshPosts: 5,498Member Uncommon
    What is going sub based on console?
  • Mtibbs1989Mtibbs1989 Fredericksburg, VAPosts: 2,920Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    Consoles are going sub based of multiplayer, while MMOs are going free to play now. Whats going on?

    Seem like some kind of culture change. But what triggered it?

    Oh I wonder, maybe because of the fact that F2P models make more money than P2P. :) So you'll buy the game. However, you'll need an internet connection + console subscription and they'll probably have cash shops thrown into the mix.

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    Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
  • flizzerflizzer Manchester, NHPosts: 1,550Member Uncommon
    I havent heard this sub based console MMO talk before either. Watcha you talkin bout?
  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148 1, NJPosts: 6,690Member
    It works out perfectly because console players will not pay an additional monthly fee for a mmo on a console. 
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  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,187Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by colddog04
    What is going sub based on console?

    You must have a premium membership to play online multiplayer on PS4 and Xbox 1.

  • MagiknightMagiknight McKinleyville, CAPosts: 782Member
    Madness. The world is mad
  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Alexandria, VAPosts: 4,546Member Uncommon
    i doubt you will have to be either ps+ member or XBL member to play the mmo since the mmos have separate servers with their own cash shop.  When i played final fantasy 11 i didnt have to be a XBL member to play it.
  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread PshPosts: 5,498Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by colddog04
    What is going sub based on console?

    You must have a premium membership to play online multiplayer on PS4 and Xbox 1.

    Oh, crazy. Didn't XBox already have a gold membership program you had to pay for to play online with friends? I think the original Xbox had it in like 2001. Maybe the actual service came out later.

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,187Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by tkreep
    i doubt you will have to be either ps+ member or XBL member to play the mmo since the mmos have separate servers with their own cash shop.  When i played final fantasy 11 i didnt have to be a XBL member to play it.

    http://kotaku.com/ps4-video-says-playstation-plus-is-mandatory-for-online-512482325

    This article disagrees with you.

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,187Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by colddog04
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by colddog04
    What is going sub based on console?

    You must have a premium membership to play online multiplayer on PS4 and Xbox 1.

    Oh, crazy. Didn't XBox already have a gold membership program you had to pay for to play online with friends?

    Yeah, you've needed a gold membership for quite a while now to play online, stream music, or use Netflix.

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread PshPosts: 5,498Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Torvaldr

    Yeah, you've needed a gold membership for quite a while now to play online, stream music, or use Netflix.

    So then, has nothing really changed or are they upping the anti and making it an actual recurring subscription or something?

  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Alexandria, VAPosts: 4,546Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by tkreep
    i doubt you will have to be either ps+ member or XBL member to play the mmo since the mmos have separate servers with their own cash shop.  When i played final fantasy 11 i didnt have to be a XBL member to play it.

    http://kotaku.com/ps4-video-says-playstation-plus-is-mandatory-for-online-512482325

    This article disagrees with you.

    its talking about games that use PSN servers which are usually multiplayer modes on shooter games and such, mmos use their own servers

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,187Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by tkreep
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by tkreep
    i doubt you will have to be either ps+ member or XBL member to play the mmo since the mmos have separate servers with their own cash shop.  When i played final fantasy 11 i didnt have to be a XBL member to play it.

    http://kotaku.com/ps4-video-says-playstation-plus-is-mandatory-for-online-512482325

    This article disagrees with you.

    its talking about games that use PSN servers which are usually multiplayer modes on shooter games and such, mmos use their own servers

    I've linked an article and I have another.  It doesn't say anything about Sony servers.  It says online play.

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/11/e3-2013-playstation-plus-required-for-ps4-online-play

    If you have evidence to the contrary link to it.

  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Alexandria, VAPosts: 4,546Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by tkreep
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by tkreep
    i doubt you will have to be either ps+ member or XBL member to play the mmo since the mmos have separate servers with their own cash shop.  When i played final fantasy 11 i didnt have to be a XBL member to play it.

    http://kotaku.com/ps4-video-says-playstation-plus-is-mandatory-for-online-512482325

    This article disagrees with you.

    its talking about games that use PSN servers which are usually multiplayer modes on shooter games and such, mmos use their own servers

    I've linked an article and I have another.  It doesn't say anything about Sony servers.  It says online play.

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/11/e3-2013-playstation-plus-required-for-ps4-online-play

    If you have evidence to the contrary link to it.

    As I said earlier when i played final fantasy 11 on 360 i didnt have to have XBL gold membership to play the game, only the games monthly subscription.  Because the game is played on square-enix servers not XBL servers and the game didnt connect online through XBL.

  • William12William12 Saint paul, MNPosts: 680Member

    They never stated you need a Playstation plus or XBL membership to play the MMOs online stop making assumptions. 

     

    I will say EA requires it and when you play madden you're playing on ea servers not MS.

  • SpiiderSpiider BinzPosts: 474Member Uncommon
    Sony and MS are very known for their stupid business decisions. The market will regulate itself by slapping them in the face once again. Do not worry too much, PC + F2P is what future is about for as long as those two companies act as completely detached from gaming population.

    No fate but what we make, so make me a ham sandwich please.

  • TheHavokTheHavok San Jose, CAPosts: 2,398Member Uncommon
    Just another reminder how PC have always been one step ahead of console ;)
  • LobotomistLobotomist ZagrebPosts: 5,048Member Uncommon
    Console players are more gullible

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  • dgarbinidgarbini San Jose, CAPosts: 185Member
    Originally posted by TheHavok
    Just another reminder how PC have always been one step ahead of console ;)

    +1  But I'd probably say more then one step.  Why do people buy consoles?

  • PrecusorPrecusor PalmaPosts: 4,733Member Uncommon
    F2p is just a fad for crappy mmos to make some money back.
  • ScotScot UKPosts: 5,757Member Uncommon

    Kids.

    They are easier to con than adults, make them pay to play online, pay for items in the cash shop and pay for the game.

    KEER-CHING!

  • RobokappRobokapp Dublin, OHPosts: 5,205Member Uncommon
    50 shades of green ?

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  • AxehiltAxehilt San Francisco, CAPosts: 8,706Member Uncommon

    "Going" sub-based?   Haven't they had a sub option since the original Xbox?

    While one might argue that a free option where Sony uses an Apple iTunes store style cut of the profits on games and uses that revenue to build and run the multiplayer architecture, a subscription model is fairly standard, given the first two XBoxes used it.  And the free model relies on them actually being the gatekeeper for games (like Apple is,) which I would guess players aren't ready for on console just yet.

    "Joe stated his case logically and passionately, but his perceived effeminate voice only drew big gales of stupid laughter..." -Idiocracy
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  • GorweGorwe ZagrebPosts: 2,472Member Uncommon
    And I assume that we'll have f2p Cash shop nonsense on the consoles in the next 2,5-3 years. Just watch me making another good assumption.

    To the current situation: they are going through the same thing as pc MMOs have gone through in the 2005-2008 years. That's why the outcome will be the same. All that endless greed is just lol.
  • IcewhiteIcewhite Elmhurst, ILPosts: 6,403Member
    Their Focus Groups reached different conclusions.

    Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

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