Originally posted by jesteralways EQN will be a console RPG with MMO touch, like DCUO. it will be huge let down for people who are hyped about that game. SOE is not the kind of company that will spend money to make a game more fluid for PC; DCUO is a good example of how they do things when it comes to a multiplatform game. don't get your hopes up.
Does this mean the Planetside 2 controls are going to become magically worse because it is now a multiplatform game?
This kind of thinking is why there is so much hate in our community. People disregard that you can play multiple games. People also seem to think that if a game is not for them, no one else could like it...or at the very least, those who like this "horrible" game must be noobs, casuals, carebears, (insert new hipster mmo phrase here).
Gamers are what's wrong with this industry.
i could not have said it any better
that said, its okay not to like a game for personal reasons, graphics are kind of a big thing for me. not necessarily the quality but the style.
i don't like eastern mmo's for the same reason, with their anime style character models and models that looks like 12 year old girls with gigantic knockers, cant stand em.
for me wildstar is just as bad looking for my tastes. not a fan of cartoons in general and i don't want to play a cartoon mmo either.
I think EQN will be very successful, but not for the denizens of this forum.
And if EQN rumors are true and it's a PS4 game there will be many tears and I will laugh.
Wildstar may very well be a contender, esp if it has the polish of WoW. I have never before thought WoW was truly on it's way down, but it's feeling more and more like the behemoth is about to capsize at any moment unless Blizzard can pull magic out of their bums.
And with so many WoW players having recently left and more probably ready to Wildstar looks to be a natural transition but with more!
What was WoW besides EQ but with improvements? If Wildstar proves true and is WoW with improvement it will do extremely well. Other themeparks have failed because they tried to be WoW with less, and of course as we've seen that doesn't really work.
But seriously, if an MMO comes out on the PS4 it will do well with the console community (they generally don't have access to MMOs) but there will be many tears on these forums.
I agree, I recommend listening to the Nas song "Ether".
"who's the best? Pac, Nas and Big
Ain't no best, East, West, North, South, flossed out, greedy"
That's how I feel about it. I don't play Sandboxes, but I hope EQNext is successful. I'm a bit leery of Raid content but I hope Wildstar is successful. I havn't heard much about Elder Scroll but I hope they are successful.
The more successful games in a genre, the better the genre. Look at the 90s RPGs, there was a flurry of hit RPGs that eventually made the RPG genre relevant. So long as the game treats its vision correctly and is trying to "further" the genre i'm happy, more power.
We know next to NOTHING about EQN... and still this thread is practically oozing with fanboyism. People, you really should try to snap out of it, or you're very likely to be dissapointed. Extreme hype tends to do that with people.
As usual, the setup to polarize the audience for X vs Z is waaaaay too far in advance.
Suspect they'll never really compete, in any meaningful way.
You'd better choose your side soon...the war is coming.
No, find the whole sandbox/themepark argument as immature as the role playing game "edition wars". My wife loves sandbox single games, I don't hate her for it or don't ant them to not make any more sims because its' (ruining gaming). I don't like american rpgs, but i don't want them to stop making them. Wow created a subgenre, oh well, if folk like it why knock it. Even created a subgenre. Sounds good. awesome. Both EQNext and Wildstar even sound like they will have elements of sandbox and "themepark" so who cares.
As usual, the setup to polarize the audience for X vs Z is waaaaay too far in advance.
Suspect they'll never really compete, in any meaningful way.
You'd better choose your side soon...the war is coming.
No, find the whole sandbox/themepark argument as immature as the role playing game "edition wars". My wife loves sandbox single games, I don't hate her for it or don't ant them to not make any more sims because its' (ruining gaming). I don't like american rpgs, but i don't want them to stop making them. Wow created a subgenre, oh well, if folk like it why knock it. Even created a subgenre. Sounds good. awesome. Both EQNext and Wildstar even sound like they will have elements of sandbox and "themepark" so who cares.
Being neutral is boring. It does work for Switzerland though.
You know what's just as bad as the genre being dominated by themeparks cloned after WoW?The Genre being dominated by sandboxes cloned after EQN if it pulls it off.
Some of us want a variety of great choices.
Seems some people want this genre to become stagnant one way or another like the FPS genre where they release generic military/space FPS 481 every month with an exception every few years.
I think soon is rather relative. Wildstar will be out LONG before EQNext. Also they aren't really in the same genre. At best Wildstar is a themepark layered with sandbox elements. EQNext sounds like a 100% pure sandbox.
If Wildstar takes off it is because it isn't too different from recent games and can draw crowds from the themepark games. If EQNext takes off it will be by drawing in sandbox lovers and attracting people not familiar with them from other genres.
It is like comparing a new generation of a family car that has been proven for years yet has a nice new shiny design against a company building an entirely new car line and hoping it is received well.
Neither ,i Find Jake Song to be a more up and up person than Smedley and Wildstar has too much bottom end.
Archeage will be as robust,look as good if not better and Jake Song imo won't be trying to nickle and dime us like SOE does with cash shops and the game won't look cartoony.
I have no doubt both Wildstar and EQ:Next will be decent games and quite playable,i just don't see either game as being a number 1 hit.
However i thought the same thing about WOW,i still feel i was right,just took so many other,years to see the downside of Wow that i saw in the first month.
I think just like when WOW hit the market ,right now we have a lot of desperate gamer's dying and hoping for a game to come out that is great.Just like when Wow came out,if a game is publicly accepted as being a hit,then it seems players file in one after another.
I prefer gamer's to do their homework and really look at each game and make a smart decision,not one that just follows the status quo.However what ends up happening is we see tons promising to pre-order and buy a game before they have even tried the product and in some cases just because their friends are or because they are a EQ fan or a Blizzard fan.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Originally posted by jesteralways EQN will be a console RPG with MMO touch, like DCUO. it will be huge let down for people who are hyped about that game. SOE is not the kind of company that will spend money to make a game more fluid for PC; DCUO is a good example of how they do things when it comes to a multiplatform game. don't get your hopes up.
Does this mean the Planetside 2 controls are going to become magically worse because it is now a multiplatform game?
Neither ,i Find Jake Song to be a more up and up person than Smedley and Wildstar has too much bottom end.
Archeage will be as robust,look as good if not better and Jake Song imo won't be trying to nickle and dime us like SOE does with cash shops and the game won't look cartoony.
I have no doubt both Wildstar and EQ:Next will be decent games and quite playable,i just don't see either game as being a number 1 hit.
However i thought the same thing about WOW,i still feel i was right,just took so many other,years to see the downside of Wow that i saw in the first month.
I think just like when WOW hit the market ,right now we have a lot of desperate gamer's dying and hoping for a game to come out that is great.Just like when Wow came out,if a game is publicly accepted as being a hit,then it seems players file in one after another.
I prefer gamer's to do their homework and really look at each game and make a smart decision,not one that just follows the status quo.However what ends up happening is we see tons promising to pre-order and buy a game before they have even tried the product and in some cases just because their friends are or because they are a EQ fan or a Blizzard fan.
That won't be his decision, that will depend on the publisher.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
As usual, the setup to polarize the audience for X vs Z is waaaaay too far in advance.
Suspect they'll never really compete, in any meaningful way.
You'd better choose your side soon...the war is coming.
No, find the whole sandbox/themepark argument as immature as the role playing game "edition wars". My wife loves sandbox single games, I don't hate her for it or don't ant them to not make any more sims because its' (ruining gaming). I don't like american rpgs, but i don't want them to stop making them. Wow created a subgenre, oh well, if folk like it why knock it. Even created a subgenre. Sounds good. awesome. Both EQNext and Wildstar even sound like they will have elements of sandbox and "themepark" so who cares.
Being neutral is boring. It does work for Switzerland though.
It's not neutral, it's just being able to appreciate different games that are absolutely two directions. If you strip away MMO from the title one game would be closer to a strategy/war civiliation game the other to a Jrpg. I love both of those genres, and I like when they are mixed up a bit (ala dark cloud 2 ). HOwever, once we tag mmo on a title, it becomes this sandbox versus themepark crazy argument when people don't realize they are two completely different genres of game. It'sl ike saying whats better between god of war 3 and madden 25. Well what if I like sleeping with goddesses and man tackling. Why can't I like both.
I picked wildstar simply because we know nothing about everquest next besides its connected to everquest, and I don't want to hype a game I know nothing about.
I really don't understand all the hate towards the cartoonish graphish style that Wildstar and WoW share. I think it looks greaet, and it ages much better than a realistic style.
I know nothing about EQN but I have read a lot and seen lots of videos about Wildstar. I am concerned about the action combat - after a while that gets boring. However, housing looks awesome, the humor is great and the Paths are cool! So what if the graphics look like WOW. A fantasy/sci-fi world should look like a fantasy/sci-fi world and not like medieval Europe.
I've only played 2 sandbox MMO's before . 1 was UO which I played for 3 years . The other way Star Wars Galaxies which I played for about 2 years . Both games were ruined by the Devs.
For example in UO I was quite happy doing PvP but they bought in death penalities that were outrageous and game breaking . I don't mean the lose items on death , I mean you get turned into a ghost and cant resurrect for about 2 months or more.
Then SWG , that was a great game however they bought in a questing system to become a jedi and it became a themepark.
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Does this mean the Planetside 2 controls are going to become magically worse because it is now a multiplatform game?
i could not have said it any better
that said, its okay not to like a game for personal reasons, graphics are kind of a big thing for me. not necessarily the quality but the style.
i don't like eastern mmo's for the same reason, with their anime style character models and models that looks like 12 year old girls with gigantic knockers, cant stand em.
for me wildstar is just as bad looking for my tastes. not a fan of cartoons in general and i don't want to play a cartoon mmo either.
I think EQN will be very successful, but not for the denizens of this forum.
And if EQN rumors are true and it's a PS4 game there will be many tears and I will laugh.
Wildstar may very well be a contender, esp if it has the polish of WoW. I have never before thought WoW was truly on it's way down, but it's feeling more and more like the behemoth is about to capsize at any moment unless Blizzard can pull magic out of their bums.
And with so many WoW players having recently left and more probably ready to Wildstar looks to be a natural transition but with more!
What was WoW besides EQ but with improvements? If Wildstar proves true and is WoW with improvement it will do extremely well. Other themeparks have failed because they tried to be WoW with less, and of course as we've seen that doesn't really work.
But seriously, if an MMO comes out on the PS4 it will do well with the console community (they generally don't have access to MMOs) but there will be many tears on these forums.
I agree, I recommend listening to the Nas song "Ether".
"who's the best? Pac, Nas and Big
Ain't no best, East, West, North, South, flossed out, greedy"
That's how I feel about it. I don't play Sandboxes, but I hope EQNext is successful. I'm a bit leery of Raid content but I hope Wildstar is successful. I havn't heard much about Elder Scroll but I hope they are successful.
The more successful games in a genre, the better the genre. Look at the 90s RPGs, there was a flurry of hit RPGs that eventually made the RPG genre relevant. So long as the game treats its vision correctly and is trying to "further" the genre i'm happy, more power.
Rofl at this thread...
We know next to NOTHING about EQN... and still this thread is practically oozing with fanboyism. People, you really should try to snap out of it, or you're very likely to be dissapointed. Extreme hype tends to do that with people.
No, find the whole sandbox/themepark argument as immature as the role playing game "edition wars". My wife loves sandbox single games, I don't hate her for it or don't ant them to not make any more sims because its' (ruining gaming). I don't like american rpgs, but i don't want them to stop making them. Wow created a subgenre, oh well, if folk like it why knock it. Even created a subgenre. Sounds good. awesome. Both EQNext and Wildstar even sound like they will have elements of sandbox and "themepark" so who cares.
Well from all info i know...
Wildstar if people want a new WoW with a new combat system and a house.
OR
EQ next that is said to be the biggest sandbox ever bringing something different to this genre.
I pick EQ next if true.
"Negaholics are people who become addicted to negativity and self-doubt, they find fault in most things and never seem to be satisfied."
^MMORPG.com
You know what's just as bad as the genre being dominated by themeparks cloned after WoW?The Genre being dominated by sandboxes cloned after EQN if it pulls it off.
Some of us want a variety of great choices.
Seems some people want this genre to become stagnant one way or another like the FPS genre where they release generic military/space FPS 481 every month with an exception every few years.
bad poll
game close to launch were a lot is known about it vs a game on a drawing board with nothing known about it,
I think soon is rather relative. Wildstar will be out LONG before EQNext. Also they aren't really in the same genre. At best Wildstar is a themepark layered with sandbox elements. EQNext sounds like a 100% pure sandbox.
If Wildstar takes off it is because it isn't too different from recent games and can draw crowds from the themepark games. If EQNext takes off it will be by drawing in sandbox lovers and attracting people not familiar with them from other genres.
It is like comparing a new generation of a family car that has been proven for years yet has a nice new shiny design against a company building an entirely new car line and hoping it is received well.
You stay sassy!
Neither ,i Find Jake Song to be a more up and up person than Smedley and Wildstar has too much bottom end.
Archeage will be as robust,look as good if not better and Jake Song imo won't be trying to nickle and dime us like SOE does with cash shops and the game won't look cartoony.
I have no doubt both Wildstar and EQ:Next will be decent games and quite playable,i just don't see either game as being a number 1 hit.
However i thought the same thing about WOW,i still feel i was right,just took so many other,years to see the downside of Wow that i saw in the first month.
I think just like when WOW hit the market ,right now we have a lot of desperate gamer's dying and hoping for a game to come out that is great.Just like when Wow came out,if a game is publicly accepted as being a hit,then it seems players file in one after another.
I prefer gamer's to do their homework and really look at each game and make a smart decision,not one that just follows the status quo.However what ends up happening is we see tons promising to pre-order and buy a game before they have even tried the product and in some cases just because their friends are or because they are a EQ fan or a Blizzard fan.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
agree
both PS2 and EQ3 are using the same game engine
http://www.eq3dev.com/everquest-3/forge-light/
DCUO is not a good comparison for EQ3
EQ2 fan sites
Fine, we'll compromise. I'll get my way & you'll find a way to be okay with that.
That won't be his decision, that will depend on the publisher.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
It's not neutral, it's just being able to appreciate different games that are absolutely two directions. If you strip away MMO from the title one game would be closer to a strategy/war civiliation game the other to a Jrpg. I love both of those genres, and I like when they are mixed up a bit (ala dark cloud 2 ). HOwever, once we tag mmo on a title, it becomes this sandbox versus themepark crazy argument when people don't realize they are two completely different genres of game. It'sl ike saying whats better between god of war 3 and madden 25. Well what if I like sleeping with goddesses and man tackling. Why can't I like both.
Alas I feel people have misunderstood the question in the poll .
It is not asking which one is going to be better . Or even which one is better . It is merely asking which one you >> HOPE << will be the best one .
Wildstar = Themepark, hub to hub quest grind
EQN= Sandbox
there really is no doubt which will win
Wildstar, haven't seen anything on EQN.
Too bad I don't see this poll up on the wildstar forums as well, but I guess everyone would guess the result then. Just like you could with this one
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Let's be honest, ESO will dominate the MMO charts at the end of 2013.
If I'm wrong, you can have my sammich.
I've only played 2 sandbox MMO's before . 1 was UO which I played for 3 years . The other way Star Wars Galaxies which I played for about 2 years . Both games were ruined by the Devs.
For example in UO I was quite happy doing PvP but they bought in death penalities that were outrageous and game breaking . I don't mean the lose items on death , I mean you get turned into a ghost and cant resurrect for about 2 months or more.
Then SWG , that was a great game however they bought in a questing system to become a jedi and it became a themepark.
Wildstar looks fantastic. I don't trust SOE anyway.
They kind of appeal to two different types of gamers don't they?
No bitchers.