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ArcheAge Going F2P In South Korea

AmbrosiaAmorAmbrosiaAmor Miami, FLMember Posts: 915

http://www.mmoculture.com/2013/05/archeage-reports-claim-korean-server-to-announce-f2p-change/

 

http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2626&l=560

 

According to foreign reports, XLGAMES is ready to announce a full conversion to a Free-to-Play model for the Korean server in June. The Korean server is currently on a Pay-to-Play (P2P) model, with the China and English servers’ models unconfirmed still.

The reports claim that while ArcheAge is a consistent title in the top 5 rankings of games played in Korea’s internet cafes (or PC bangs), its overall market share is still unable to topple rivals such as Aion and Blade & Soul. The game is also finding it tough to break into the top 10 games for overall market share.

 

Posted as a rumor at MMOCulture... but considering the original source came from Inven... chances are that XLGames are going to make the switch in June. I hope TRION decides to make the game B2P over here. I would really love to get a collector's edition of the game if possible.

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  • BadSpockBadSpock Somewhere, MIMember Posts: 7,974

    With RIFT going F2P in the US, I doubt they'd debut AA as B2P or P2P.

    Really, really hard for any P2P to survive these days...

    Are Aion and B&S F2P in SK?

  • fat_taddlerfat_taddler Wanaque, NJMember Posts: 286

    Very interesting, thanks for posting.

     

    Considering that western MMO's don't typically do well in Korea, this may indicate that the game is tuned towards a more western gaming mindset and could end up being quite well received in the US and EU.

  • romelloromello Calgary, ABMember Posts: 34
    f2p is the most shady business model, which also makes the most moneys anyway

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  • nerovipus32nerovipus32 dublinMember Posts: 2,735
    I love f2p it exploits the greedy and the impatient.
  • WhitebeardsWhitebeards TokyoMember Posts: 778
    Whatever happened to 'i will play 50 bucks a month if a MMO is as good as AA'? image
  • Slappy1Slappy1 columbus, OHMember Posts: 458

    At this time I believe that any mmo launching in NA/EU need's to either be btp or ftp.If a game launch's ptp in those territories,I believe they're signing the game's deathwish.As in losing major people the 1st 3-4 month's and being forced to ftp.

    With the recent success of heavy to moderate btp/ftp hits,I think we can see where this is going for the short term atleast.GW2/TSW/Swtor/AoW/Tera/Neverwinter and Rift are some moderate to big competition for games like Wildstar/TESO/AA and so on.Any of those 3 going ptp would be disastrous imo.

    The market may very change,but for the near future I see btp/ftp as the only viable choices.Not saying I don't want ptp,just where the market look's to be atm.

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  • AmbrosiaAmorAmbrosiaAmor Miami, FLMember Posts: 915
    Originally posted by BadSpock
    With RIFT going F2P in the US, I doubt they'd debut AA as B2P or P2P. Really, really hard for any P2P to survive these days... Are Aion and B&S F2P in SK?

     

    Yeah it seems next to impossible. I remember there were still about a dozen games still using the P2P business model towards the end of 2011 (games released post 2006 for the Western market). Now I think it is down to only 2-3 games. Only a handful of NCSoft games are P2P over in South Korea. The only game still using the P2P business model post 2010 is Blade & Soul at the moment; in South Korea.

     

    http://en.thisisgame.com/2013/01/08/archeage-choose-a-hybrid-payment-method

     

    From this list it didn't seem that ArcheAge would have to worry about competition but I guess it isn't doing so hot.

     

    http://2p.com/50f3b059c01dc5968dc16fe3_1/List-of-Korean-MMORPG-in-2013.htm

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  • General-ZodGeneral-Zod Zod, CAMember Posts: 787 Uncommon
    Originally posted by BadSpock
    With RIFT going F2P in the US, I doubt they'd debut AA as B2P or P2P. Really, really hard for any P2P to survive these days... Are Aion and B&S F2P in SK?

    On the contrary my friend...

    Rift could of went F2P because they knew they were going to do a subscription model for AA... just a thought

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  • SawlstoneSawlstone barrie, ONMember Posts: 301
    Originally posted by Whitebeards
    Whatever happened to 'i will play 50 bucks a month if a MMO is as good as AA'? image

    I'm here, and willing :D I'd rather pay a sub......maybe just not 50$ though lol

  • SoMuchMassSoMuchMass New York, NYMember Posts: 548
    Originally posted by BadSpock
    With RIFT going F2P in the US, I doubt they'd debut AA as B2P or P2P. Really, really hard for any P2P to survive these days... Are Aion and B&S F2P in SK?

    Aion and B&S are P2P in SK.  I am 95% sure even Lineage 1 and Lineage 2 are P2P in SK.  Basically all NCSoft MMOs in SK are P2P.

  • DanitaKusorDanitaKusor AdelaideMember Posts: 553 Uncommon

    If it is F2P in Korea and doesn't launch in the US/rest of the world as F2P I can see that hurting sale because people (like me for example) will just wait around for it to go F2P.

    Personally, I'm a bit over subscription games and recently cancelled all of my subscriptions and I'm preferring B2P (GW2 and TSW) and F2P (Neverwinter, Planetside 2) games.

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  • RevofireRevofire Melbourne, FLMember Posts: 258 Uncommon
    Originally posted by fat_taddler
    Very interesting, thanks for posting.   Considering that western MMO's don't typically do well in Korea, this may indicate that the game is tuned towards a more western gaming mindset and could end up being quite well received in the US and EU.

    I really hope so, also I'd be very happy for it to be F2P here. :)

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  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAMember Posts: 2,646

    If they go F2P, hopefully they will stick to Aion's Truly F2P model.  Although, I think I would prefer B2P to help curb cheaters and spammers.

    Cheaters / Spammers will never go away, but at least if an account gets banned there is some form of monetary loss with B2P.

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  • SukiyakiSukiyaki Member Posts: 1,443 Uncommon

    Please edit the title or add a questionmark like in the source. This is nothing more than completely far stretched speculation by some game journalists based on some announced upcoming patches/changes next month and ideas what it could be. It could as well mean the game adopts the same system as normal Korean P2P MMOs or anything else unrelated to the business model. That's why all the question marks not not explicit statements or citations. At best currently is just a rumour. If you knew that then just repeat it as such.

    The game is actually doing quite well. Decent for a P2P title and very good for a sub based game. Just because its not sitting on the top does not doom it to F2P or make F2P a beneficial long term alternative.

    The time ticket system creates entirely different market dynamics than the (real) subscription system. They add much more freedom to try out other games if your play with the time ticket system ie games like AA. You just stop using up your time and try another game. If its crap or just not your thing go back. No waiting until that sub runs out. In return a F2P conversion does not help a game that much in a Korean market as it would do here where P2P is entirely based on subs. And ArcheAge has the benefit of being the only out of two top games to have a real subscriptions while the others use the time ticket. Of course this creates a higher entry barrier but the alternative is not just going F2P.

    The only F2P title in the top (heavy) MMORPG charts is TERA after the recent F2P change but it already dropped again. Then there is Maplestory but that is pretty much a different story.

    "Hey I ignored all the fun content and played this game like a hamster because it was possible just spending long enough time in the wheel. Why are games so boring X-clones these days and can't be more like X? Im going back to grind repeatable tasks in X and hone my skills with some dice roles, waiting 14 months for the next paid content patch."
  • bcbullybcbully Westland, MIMember Posts: 8,839 Rare

    If they make it B2p. I wont play it, simple as that. I'm not throwing 50-60$ digital box money at any developer. 

     

    B2P w/o trial = scam.

  • ChloroCatChloroCat Easley, SCMember Posts: 98
    ....crap

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  • snapfusionsnapfusion San, CAMember Posts: 954

    So blaa blaa blaa, the game is doing good as a box and sub game but the publisher can ring even MORE money out of players as a F2P.  So tell me something I don't know.

    Another nail in the coffin for hardcore gamers while the casuals and tire-kickers cheer!

  • flizzerflizzer Manchester, NHMember Posts: 2,035 Rare
    Good news!  Lets hope for f2p in NA and maybe I'll try it then.
  • Ice-QueenIce-Queen USA, GAMember Posts: 2,442 Uncommon

     


    Originally posted by General-Zod Originally posted by BadSpock With RIFT going F2P in the US, I doubt they'd debut AA as B2P or P2P. Really, really hard for any P2P to survive these days... Are Aion and B&S F2P in SK?
    On the contrary my friend... Rift could of went F2P because they knew they were going to do a subscription model for AA... just a thought
      

    Rift went f2p because soon TESO and Wildstar will be releasing and pulling players away from them so they need to fill in the void. No way to compete with them if Rift still was sub only.

    I prefer sub only games myself, to avoid the give me everything free crowd.

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  • NobleNerdNobleNerd Wolcott, NYMember Posts: 732 Uncommon
    Originally posted by General-Zod
    Originally posted by BadSpock
    With RIFT going F2P in the US, I doubt they'd debut AA as B2P or P2P. Really, really hard for any P2P to survive these days... Are Aion and B&S F2P in SK?

    On the contrary my friend...

    Rift could of went F2P because they knew they were going to do a subscription model for AA... just a thought

    Rift went f2p because it is the last attempt to redeem the population lost. It was either that or shut down the servers.


  • RecoreRecore Member Posts: 6,417 Rare
    Good news
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  • reeereeereeereee Member Posts: 1,635 Uncommon
    I hope Trion knows they need to ip block Brazil.
  • BarelyEinsteinBarelyEinstein SLC, UTMember Posts: 183 Uncommon
    So it's still sub based in North Korea? That hardly seems fair.
  • muffins89muffins89 Yakima, WAMember Posts: 1,585 Uncommon
    Originally posted by BarelyEin
    So it's still sub based in North Korea? That hardly seems fair.

    i dont think north koreans get to play games. 

  • niceguy3978niceguy3978 Gainesville, FLMember Posts: 1,969 Uncommon
    Originally posted by fat_taddler
    Very interesting, thanks for posting.   Considering that western MMO's don't typically do well in Korea, this may indicate that the game is tuned towards a more western gaming mindset and could end up being quite well received in the US and EU.

    I dunno, that is the exact same thing that people were saying about TERA when it started to lose popularity in the East before launching here.  I'm not saying the same thing will happen here with Archage, I'm just saying there were people saying word for word about Tera what you just said about Archeage.

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