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Well said. If you want to find out what a game is like, don't bother reading the threads on here, play the game.
Danwest, what server are you playing?
I play on Withywindle and the worst I met was silence (just because some were afk, some - slaying some orcs, some - harvesting or dating that nice Elf). No rude answers ever.
The truth is, some quests, like "Retake Weathertop" are best if soloed. Some content is intended for solo or 2 people group. And speaking on solo - I wish you visit Angmar, once end-game territory. It's a land of fellowship quests and sometimes you may need very strong players by your side. Some things in Lotro just can't be done solo.
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(I snipped the long convo, sorry) This. And I guess Sovrath wrote it as well earlier.
LotRO had decent population back then (true, with an unusually high % of them lifetimers, much more than in other games, and they weren't pay a dime beside the expansions) and only went f2p because DDO's f2p switch was a huge success - in the sense of a dying game got revived and started to make profit just from the switch. So LotRO's switch was a strictly money decision. Actually a lot of posters on the forum opposed the change, saying it will ruin the game
Withywindle is a nice one indeed. It was the new f2p server at the f2p launch on Eu side, we had a few awesome months on it... A brand new world, no high-level alts to help with mats and crafted stuff and gold, as you level with others for the first time you meet a huge crowd everywhere around you, kinships formed, homesteads were purchased so kins moving in together...
Felt like a fresh, new game, only this time you knew the ropes. I use to say since then, more games should launch new servers in every 1-2 years to shake up the playerbase
There are rp'ers left in LotRO too I guess
It's offtopic, but in Neverwinter (so I heard) Mindflayer is the unofficial rp shard - not that it would matter much, since when they manage to solve the rubberbanding and lags and other hardware optimization, the plan is a single server world like in the other two Cryptic games.
Yeah, I heard that they're planning on putting everyone on one super server or something at the "launch"...even though it's already launched imho lol.
Lol I wanted to claw my eyeballs out on that one, but I did finish it!
Playing: FFXIV, DnL, and World of Warships
Waiting on: Ashes of Creation
Played this from the start of f2p until the Rohan exp came out. I was pretty burned about the Isengard exp and vowed to not funnel any more cash into this game.
At this point I can not bother with this any more because fools are at the helm of the ship. But for somebody new I suspect it's worth playing to the higher levels. I just wouldn't put any cash into it if I were them. Looks every bit like a dying game. (I suspect the WB/Tolkein lawsuit might be putting a damper on any big plans for this as well.)
Now compare this cash shop to the one at 'Neverwinter'.
You really do talk a lot of rubbish
You can't preach it enough. It's sad to see what this game has become.
Neverwinter has less pay to win and no gated content. Was that the point you were trying to make?
n many ways, it’s the best implementation of the free-to-play idea yet. It works because the game is willing to give away a huge amount of the adventure before ever asking for any money. When it finally does, the price is right. The new tiered pricing system gives players more choice. If you’re planning to play once or twice a week, the quest pack system is a good value alternative to a monthly subscription, while the £10 a month VIP fee offers just enough to keep dedicated players interested. The revamped Deeds system even makes the game more absorbing, adding an extra layer of reward to every zone, and right now the world is absolutely packed with adventurers. There’s never been a better time to grab a goat and ride into Bree.
So I just came back and I'm reading this thread here. The first thing I noticed right away is his logical fallacy that somehow raiders aren't a minority. Uhm yeah they are they've been a minority since 2005. The times are changing man get over it.
solo is the way to go, besides you can get 2-3 mans going in skirmishes and they scale whereas you don't have to deal wiht what happens in games like GW2 right now where if you're not wearing what everyone says you should or you're not specced they way they want then they are rude and kick you often in the same dungeon after the first boss, yeah that's how my experience has been with dungeoneers and raiders. let's make it clear who the rude people really are here.
(responding to the community managers post) sounds like they know what they are doing, adapting to fit their audience's needs.
lots of people pay by paypal cancel the payment and wonder why companies ban their account. it's the only way companies can stop this behavior.
this game is based solely off the books, not the shows or movies so this game's lore is fine. Sure it has some older game concepts like quest hubs and nonvocal events but it's still good for what you actually have to pay for it (nothing btw).
It also was one of the first pioneers in making it possible to earn in game shop currency to buy things from the store for free. I love that,
yeah exactly what in the store do you absolutely have to have in Neverwinter to play the end game and gear up or enjoy the foundry? sheesh some people.
Waited on the Lotro boards a year before the game came out and maintained a founders sub for years after the game came out only to be disappointed time and time again. I pvp'ed 90% of my time in Lotro and the complete and utter lack of "promised" additions and improvents to pvp never came. In fact, it got so much worse when monster play became pay-2-win.
I absolutely love Lotr , which is why I casually played a mediocre game so long, but the cash shop and development direction (idiotic) has already dug the whole for Lotro's demise.
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Lotro is ok if you want to try it out for cheap - but I agree with the OP. Turbine is letting the game get worse and worse. I play it and have watched it over the last few years. No there are so many bugs and performance problems (so much lag). They are not investing much in the game any more and expansions are tiny for $40 with no instance content! Not worth it at all for a new player who will have to buy all the expansions - pay $80 or more for a pretty bad game. Combat bad, AH bad, bag space and items bad, only the early zones, Moria and scenery is good in the game.
If anyone plays a lot of MMOs they will quickly see how bad this game is compared to WoW or Rift. Only the story and scenery is good in Lotro. The game is failing big time. But Turbine has its new game to work on - so they don't really care.
New game is Infinite Crisis (IC). They have moved staff to this game from Lotro, and for a few years have slowly taken off any senior developers away from Lotro. There may be another game they are making and have not disclosed in addition to IC.
Players wanted a good IC (instance cluster) the last 2 expansions, but instead Turbine was busy making a different IC.
Many problems with LoTRo can be solved by paying a monthly fee. I think Free to play is a rip off, In MMO's Free is never free.
Just pay the 9.99 a month (Per three months) and be done with it.
You pay less money with a subscription fee than you do by playing free.
EDIT- If you have never played LoTRo, play the Shire for free and see if you like it. You can get to around level twenty without needed to pay a cent. After that, if you enjoyed it. I would recommend paying a subscription instead of being nickel and dimed by the free to play.
I missed the WoW craze because I had this old-timer crotchety resistance to paying a sub fee. LotRO was the one that convinced me to break with that, and that was because of the lore alone.
Started out really good. It required teamwork to beat even low-level bosses. it was actually full of the "mm" in mmorpg. Then the soloers started whining and the devs caved. Then they went to Free-to-Suck which turned it into thousands of random dudes with their heads down and asking to team up got responses like you were asking for a kidney.
I started playing LotRO shortly after the SoA launch.
I've always loved Tolkien, so I was hooked in the very beginning. I didn't reach max level until a few months before the Moria launch, but I distinctly remember having lots of fun all along the way. The world was huge and mostly open, there were plenty of dangerous areas (my repair bills in Angmar especially were atrocious), and the game was just very solidly made. Then Moria came, and it was mostly awesome with the exception of the Legendary weapon system (there is NOTHING legendary about that massive recycling system). Then came the big Pre-Lorien patch which was...underwhelming, to say the least. The same was true for Lorien itself.
Then came Mirkwood, followed by the f2p transition. Awful. Dunland. Worse. Isengard. Atrocious. Rohan I didn't even bother purchasing, so I can't comment on it. All I know is that the last time I tried the game (a few weeks ago), even with a subscription they @#&;*ing store was popping up EVERYWHERE. It was completely obnoxious. I uninstalled without finishing my sub and didn't look back.
LotRO was once a great game, but that time was a long time ago.