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Originally posted by TheCrow2k SWTOR shouldn't be on there IMHO. Neverwinter should be at Number 1 despite the events of the last few days.
Neverwinter number 1 mmo ? You made me almost sh** my pants really hard
While I agree with the ranking for almost all the games, you really need to break it down into categories for a best in class or genre rather than best overall, as rating MMO's this way is like saying what the best ice cream flavors are, its personal preference. With that said, my thoughts are:
Rift definitely should have been on there, especially over Darkfall.
WoW still tops the charts with subs so how is it not a best of?
Eve is a good game and very niche but definitely not best of, especially when basing it on CCP released population numbers. They always leave out the fact that EVE players have multiple accounts, and they count them all as unique. EVE grows because people start gathering so much ISK that they can afford new accounts every few months with the PLEX system. Take away PLEX and you'd see a huge decrease in sub numbers.
SWTOR has made great strides and has a solid player base of subs mixed with free players so I can understand it being on the list.
GW2, WoW, SW:TOR, Neverwinter, TSW, RIFT, EVE would have been my top 7.
LoL at H8ers, your opinion is exactly that your opinion. My list is below.
1. SWToR (I like the additions to the game / The game I play the most).
2. Rift (still has the best raiding community out there).
3. GW2 (I have moderated my opinion somewhat).
4. TSW ( I really like a lot of the ideas, but the implementation is a little off)
5. WoW (Blizz still is the lion on the market / pvp is fun).
6. EQ2 (I still like the crafting and housing in this one).
7. AoC (PVP in AoC is still a lot of fun).
Originally posted by Brachus Please stop complaining about games released prior to 2013 being on the list. If you take the time to read the intro: "The list will include titles new to the industry this year, and past titles that have been doing “all the right stuff” so far... essentially it’ll be a recount of the games we think are hitting all the right notes in 2013." My list would be: 3) Neverwinter 2) TSW 1) GW2
Lol it was driving me crazy wanting to scream out what you just mentioned about the fact that the games listed either released this year or within the last year or two. While I've been out of the loop for most of this year it makes sense to me to include games that are a little older since there haven't been many games released this year (and certainly none that are that good) if games like any version of Darkfall,any cryptic game or the much hated SWTOR could make the list.
2013..i am assuming that this is "up to 2013" since eve is on there.
Listen, i don't play wow anymore but it has more subs than all those games combined. These articles are becoming so incredibly biased it's not even worth reading them.
rewrite the article to "my personal favorite mmos'" and call a spade a spade please.
Originally posted by Dullahan Age of Wushu is a ray of hope in this list being the first real 3rd gen MMO. Ironically, its everything veteran gamers have been wishing for since the UO/EQ/SB era, and no one even knows it exists. People see kung fu and think another cheap asian grinder. Except DF:UW, every other game in the list in comparison is just the same old MMO rewrapped with trivial additions, while wushu has open world pvp, player driven world and economy (sandbox), has unparalleled action based combat and offers more to do every day than you could accomplish if you sat at your computer from sun up to sun down. The game is quality from graphics and gameplay, to the music and sound. If you like immersion, theres plenty in AoW.
100% agreed. People think its another asian grinder. Truth is AoW is one of the best and most unique MMORPGs in recent years and easily can teach some lessons to games like Guild Wars 2 or Rift
Originally posted by Grakulen Originally posted by BillMurphy Man, if you guys like arguing about this one... I can't wait to see your reaction to next week's "Worst of 2013... So Far" list.
I think SW:TOR should be on that list.
That would be awesome. Though, I would hire a good lawyer otherwise you could get sued for the collective head explosions from those that love the game, and those that hate it (due to the fact that it is recognized as both worst and one of the best).
6 3 and 2 are the only mmos that should be on this list the rest are epic piles of crap
darkfall is 1 of the worst mmos ive ever played
swtor was a collosal fail and if i remember correctly was the shortest lived p2p game ever
gw2 was a fail aswell from what 99% of gw players said
tsw is an outdated game that doesnt deserve to be on any lists
Originally posted by hasaosan 6 3 and 2 are the only mmos that should be on this list the rest are epic piles of crap darkfall is 1 of the worst mmos ive ever played swtor was a collosal fail and if i remember correctly was the shortest lived p2p game ever gw2 was a fail aswell from what 99% of gw players said tsw is an outdated game that doesnt deserve to be on any lists
SWTOR still has more P2P members than most every other sub based game out there.
GW2 was a failure for those who spent all there MMO years in GW1, but for the majority of the mmo population GW2 was a success. GW1 was very niche, and GW2 opened it up to many more people.
TSW is not outdated, had a great concept on player builds and a unique storyline for MMO's. It just didn't have enough to do after you maxed the skill wheel, and pvp was severely lacking in the building.
Darkfall....i agree. :P
Originally posted by Holice Originally posted by hasaosan 6 3 and 2 are the only mmos that should be on this list the rest are epic piles of crap darkfall is 1 of the worst mmos ive ever played swtor was a collosal fail and if i remember correctly was the shortest lived p2p game ever gw2 was a fail aswell from what 99% of gw players said tsw is an outdated game that doesnt deserve to be on any lists
I spent most of my MMO time in GW1 and I enjoy GW2 a lot.
Currently playing: GW2Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders
Originally posted by Dogblaster Do not agree with the list but that is only my view tera, rift, wow, aion are missing ... throw away swtor, neverwinter, dfuw
Throw away new and decent games to add tired old bs? Pass.
I'm very surprised Rift didn't make the list. It may be true that low level zones are somewhat desolate, but the game has an extremely healthy player base for endgame content. My server (Icewatch EU) has a 30+ minutes queue every night. With F2P around the corner I think Rift has a bright future ahead of it. Also the next expansion will be revealed in the coming months, so Trion is not dropping Rift anytime soon.
Originally posted by OldMMOGamer This is MMORPG's list folks....If your game isn't on there don't have a freak session .
Exactly haha, people are freaking out right now. Wall of text and all. I wonder if most of them realize no ones reading pass the 2nd wall of text.
Anyways, seems like a legit list to me. Factoring in everything like gameplay, updates, new content additions (Speed of release), fixes, community love/hate. Yep, these are the show runners in my opinion as well. GW2 is definitely the King. I've been impressed constantly since they released. Great gameplay, beautiful game, constant updates and F2P once you bought it.
A note on Wow: The Americas are no longer the bread and butter of that game, Asia is. Get used to coming in second people.
A note on Rift: Its so empty in there. Really fun game but if almost no one plays it, why the fuck should it be on a list!?
A note on SWTOR: <-- My favorite mmorpg to date. It has its flaws but it is the ONLY true RPG out there for me. You DO remember what RPG stands for right?
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I stopped coming to this site a while back but thought I'd come here and check it out today. This was a mistake.
The MOP expansion in WoW is a success and the servers are as active as ever. Rift has more polish than games 2-7 put together. I can understand that some people may hate a game but when an article is posted on a site like this I would expect it to be honorable in its reporting. I was wrong. Maybe I'll check back in a year or two to see if this site has taken the responsibility of reporting on the MMORPG scene seriously.
Originally posted by Gardavsshade Originally posted by ShakyMo How much did ea pay you to put a game from 2011, that sucks, on a best of 2013 list? Also eve, gw2 & tsw aren't from 2013 either.
In my opinion.... ANY list that this website makes up will undoubtedly be a list of which MMO Publisher paid them the most money vs. who paid the least or none at all.
Sorry MMORPG.com Staff... but it's blatantly obvious you have been "bought and paid for". Sorry but that's how I see it.
STO has been running ads on this site quite a bit yet didn't make the list. Scarlett Blade has also been running a lot of ads and was put on the "Worst Of" list. Either show your proof of this site taking money for good reviews or shut up. Your post comes off as one written by a poster who is butt sore over his favorite games not making a list.Sorry, but that's how I see it.
Now getting back to the OP and past the numerous butthurt posters and their tears...
I like all the above except Darkfall. TSW and TOR are my favorites and while I don't play GW2 or EVE I can see why a lot of people do.
Currently Playing: Star Wars The Old Republic
STO - when was that released? I remember it as a pretty good MMO, a little weird here and there, but overall one of the few games I returned to. I enjoyed i all the way to the end game.
TSW - omg they failed at so much, its like their game designers were aiming at failing. What a shame. Strangely enough, it is actually worth trying, just to see the best graphics on the market at play. End game, what end game? I ended up doing only PvP and that really didnt last long.
SWTOR - Yeah disappointing maybe, but I totally agree with the article, it is one of the best games out there. I enjoyed the time I had with it, didnt last to the end of the grindmill though.
EVE - I am not a fan of this game, but I have to admit that they are doing incredibly well. When I tried it, the interface was ... it was... well it really wasnt good at all and completely scared me away from this game forever. On top of this, I was also not impressed by the graphics. Still they have made a continous impact on the market, so is worth checking out.
Well I think the last few years have been really crap in regards to good Mmo's , I am shocked they aint got WoW up there though.
I haven't played Age of Wushu, and never will after watching a bit of it on U tube.
Swtor , I really did like the game but only log in to help a friend out now and again , very poor community I found too.
Eve , played it on and off for years , I will never play again, its just super boring I found and full of spread sheets.
Darkfall I have never played and I actually hate clan wars . So I will never play that game .
Tried Neverwinter, lasted about 20 mins, the controls were horrible. Same crap as DDO , personally I cant play with those type of controls.
TSW , got a lifer on this , unfortunately , I find it a bit boring so rarely log in . Also its a bit heavy on the graphics card . ( Nvidia 670 gtx )
Currently giving GW2 another bash, I don't particulary like the gfx on the character models , mainly the armour / clothing and animations , but I do find it a very smotth ride. Havent tried WvW yet, this is what I am aiming at really in this game. Hopefully akin to Daoc ( best game ever ) .
There are a few more games which I have tried this year namely Aoc ( again clan wars , really no interest and its a bit clunky on times ) , STO just started this again, heavy on gfx but I think it has potential .
WoW, how can they not have this on the list ? Do I currently play = no. I don't like raiding and I found WoW to be more of a script game , who ever has the best macros and gear wins. I used to run 5 accounts on one box for 6 months, was great fun, but really should be F2p now . Still its still a super game. If they updated the gfx I would return.
Rift , good game if you like raids etc . I think they should've started with three + factions instead of two. Best thing about the game is the easy macro set up , unlike WoW .
Lotro , I have a lifer here too , this is my rebound / chill game, always come back to it , though I don't particulary find it exiting. Great game for soloing I find , though I would like to see the character models upgraded .
On what I have played last 6 months, I would put :
1: GW 2
Honorable mention for DCUO
Well i only want to say that,SWOTR IS A GREAT GAME!!!!
And i really don`t think that RIFT should be on that list.
Originally posted by Axewielderx Have no idea how Neverwinter made this list. Get a clue! They released a game in which the auction house eats astral diamonds. Tons of players have been complaining on the forums and sent in bug requests and they ignore them. I complained in game and out and never received a response or the lost astral diamonds. Any game where players can lose real money and not be compensated or even replied to, should never make a "best of" list. Sometimes, this site makes me sad.
Yes. No response from support two weeks later. At least I didn't lose ALL of my astral diamonds but still. Work it out Cryptic.