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Originally posted by bestever That's global here's the US http://www.vgchartz.com/#North America Totals Also the wii runs at 99$ and most kids wanted the wii. The wii launched cheap and sold a bunch but it's a pile of crap and most people don't even want it or play it.
You didn't specify NA only. And at the end of the day, the people that sell the most consoles do worldwide. You don't see Apple crying that Androids are doing better in Japan than in North America. It's a global market.
And regardless of pricing, Wii is much better selling than the 360. You stated an untruth, I showed you the facts, you start saying "yea but..."
Originally posted by Mirathel Originally posted by bestever The PS4 and the XBOX ONE are pretty much the same system when it comes to system spec. What it'll come down to is the software that runs them and Microsoft will smoke sony hands down. People think sony will beat Microsoft because of exclusives, well that's been proven wrong already since xbox is the number one sold system. Sony can't even come close to what xbox live offers and that's what kicks sony in the ass. Oh and lets not compare Sonys pile of crap move to the kinect which hands down is the best motion control I've ever used. If they fixed the rough edges that kinects launched with and it's even more accurate then Sony should just move on from motion control or try and copy Microsoft. One other thing is Sony is losing exclusives anyway because most developers are tired of losing money because they chose to stick with one system, which happen to xbox. Games made by Sony will stay with Sony and the same goes for Xbox but the third party developers are putting games on both systems.
not really...the xbox one JUST got to 500gb which for an xbox is stupid because now that xbox will have blueray and im assuming like all Xboxes you can download your game from the disk to the harddrive...games are gonna be 20 gigs + 500gb is old news. The PS3 had 500gb last year and will have 1TB in the PS4. So how are the systems similar?
The PS4 is focusing on gaming and has better system specs. The xbox one is focusing on entertainment and the failed Kinect and it will always be online. We should call it Xbox None since there wont be any in people's homes :P
So you saying the systems are not the same because of hard drive size, really? Also sony hasn't stated what size hard drive will be in the PS4. The systems are pretty much the same except the cpu in the xbox since we really don't know what its capable of and sorry the PS4 doesn't have better system specs. It has the faster GDDR5 from what I see and that not that big of deal.
This made my decision about the Xbox One a very easy one to make. I will not pay for Xbox Live and pay to be able to play used games.
Originally posted by Ikeda Originally posted by bestever That's global here's the US http://www.vgchartz.com/#North America Totals Also the wii runs at 99$ and most kids wanted the wii. The wii launched cheap and sold a bunch but it's a pile of crap and most people don't even want it or play it.
Its not a untruth its the most sold system in the US sorry I didn't state that before but I can careless what the rest of world buys since I'm in the US
Graphics do not impress from from a Console. If I want graphics from a game I buy it for my PC.
Lack of Backwards compatibility = Me not buying next console. PS3 did this and I chose to go with a 360 instead thanks for me owning both a Xbox and Ps2.
No used Games = Me not buying games anymore. I have a family and limited time. I do not get games till they drop in price, even then I have games that have not been touched as I just have to much to do most of the time (or my 8 year old daughter has shoved me out of the room because she wants to play Wii bowling)
Add those two together and I'm not even going to spend money on the next gen system for my kids. Let my systems die a horrible death as I play them till they die.
FU Sony for the PS3 (and 4), FU Microsoft for the next Xbox. Not even going to touch that horrible thing called the Wii U
Originally posted by bestever Originally posted by Ikeda Originally posted by bestever That's global here's the US http://www.vgchartz.com/#North America Totals Also the wii runs at 99$ and most kids wanted the wii. The wii launched cheap and sold a bunch but it's a pile of crap and most people don't even want it or play it.
The graph clearly shows you're wrong. Lol.
Originally posted by Dihoru Originally posted by bestever Originally posted by DavisFlight Originally posted by Seelinnikoi The live stream is up! http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthickey/2013/05/21/next-gen-xbox-reveal-event-live-blog/ Are you excited ?
Not really. The 360 was the worst of the 3 consoles last generation and it seems to be more of the same this time around.
Hows the most sold system the worst? guess people like spending money on the worst system lol.
You people argue over which overpriced PC wannabe was best while the people who know how to even half-arse a custom built computer will laugh their asses off at your purchases for the entire next gen console cycle with the same PC, don't believe me? One of my college friends half-arsed his PC build in 2006 or 2007 and has a PC right now which in its original config could run all the console games past and present, he upgraded the GPU (100-200 dollars) a few months back and now he can comfortably run all future gen games as well XD all this for a grand total of 600 dollars (for the desktop central unit, you don't put the pc monitor or the other peripherals in the cost as those can be used across hardware generations whereas console peripherals can't for the most part:3 ).
Oh I won't be getting either of them since I have a beast of a computer I just like watching the console crowed get all crazy. Its funny.
Originally posted by Precusor If you were hoping to play your vast collection of Xbox 360 games on Microsoft's latest creation, we've got a spot of bad news. Microsoft Xbox Live VP Marc Whitten confirmed to The Verge that the new Xbox One console will have no backwards compatibility whatsoever. http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/21/4350662/new-xbox-has-no-backwards-compatibilty Damn.
While that blows, they are still on equal footing with PS4 in that regard. Neither next gen console offers backward compatability
Originally posted by Precusor Xbox One Will Not Function Without Kinect Attached http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/xbox-one-will-not-function-without-kinect-attached Geez..
I have an feeling that this has something to do with patent that allow camers / kinect-like devices to check HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE SITTING IN FRONT OF CONSOLE / TV. Now group that with "DRM" and "face recognition" and "privacy" :E
Hmm, consoles don't look that appealing to me this time around. The WiiU hardware sucks by comparison and for the price. I don't see anything that makes me want to run out and dump around $500 on a PS4 or an Xbox One.
I'll end up passing on all three for now and just stick to PC gaming until the console offering improves.
Originally posted by redcapp Originally posted by bestever Originally posted by Ikeda Originally posted by bestever That's global here's the US http://www.vgchartz.com/#North America Totals Also the wii runs at 99$ and most kids wanted the wii. The wii launched cheap and sold a bunch but it's a pile of crap and most people don't even want it or play it.
Yes for global but not the US.
I am glad they are killing second hand games. It is a shame when Gamestop robs people.
Facial Recognition will be interesting, and possible heartbeat monitoring. Skynet has a new name and it is Microsoft.
At least MS has COD so it cant be that bad.
Originally posted by fs23otm I am glad they are killing second hand games. It is a shame when Gamestop robs people. Facial Recognition will be interesting, and possible heartbeat monitoring. Skynet has a new name and it is Microsoft.
LOL nice +1
Originally posted by best ever Originally posted by Ikea Originally posted by best ever That's global here's the US http://www.vgchartz.com/#North America Totals Also the wii runs at 99$ and most kids wanted the wii. The wii launched cheap and sold a bunch but it's a pile of crap and most people don't even want it or play it.
please stop embarrassing yourself and leave this thread , your fanboism is too much to bear and ruins whole discussion , do you even read what you post, your first post was so bad i couldnt bear reading, you praising ms like a some religious fanatic and criticize sony like devil itself, and i dont even own single console nor believe in god, thats how bad you look, like a 12 year old child incapable of thinking, stop posting before everyone here will decide to report you for trolling/derailing and flame wars instigation
Originally posted by Precusor What's going to happen to Gamestop?
That is the goal of both Sony, and MS, destroy the used game market. They view it as pirating. TBH I quit console gaming because of the used sales. I mean seriously? Here I will give you $8, for the newest launch, then sell it for a $4 discount since it is used. (hyperbole, but close to truth in my eyes)
Originally posted by bestever Originally posted by redcapp Originally posted by bestever Originally posted by redcapp Originally posted by bestever Originally posted by redcapp Originally posted by bestever Originally posted by Ikeda Originally posted by bestever That's global here's the US http://www.vgchartz.com/#North America Totals Also the wii runs at 99$ and most kids wanted the wii. The wii launched cheap and sold a bunch but it's a pile of crap and most people don't even want it or play it.
Can you read?
Yeah I can read jackass but I guess what I hear on tv and the radio about the xbox is just BS my bad. I can careless what that poll says as it might not even be updated. I go see If I can find a poll that swings it in my direction. As I know the WII is not the most sold system anymore. Lucky if you can trade a WII at gamestop anymore.
LMFAO. You link to a graph that clearly disproves the point you're trying to make. Then you say that graph is inaccurate, without citing any further sources. You crack me up.
Edit: Then he links to a review that says nothing about sales. LOL!
Just pointing out that I can find a poll too since that's all you guys have done.
Only one of those is a poll. The other is a sales chart, which has nothing whatsoever in common with a poll, other than they both use numbers.
Originally posted by Seelinnikoi the tiny 500gb hard drive.
i had a 6.4gb hard drive 13 years ago.
now 500gb is 'tiny'.
Not really impressed. Seems to be far too much focus on all the least important aspects of multimedia.
It's meant to be a games console. It should be all about the games. Imagine how good the gaming on it would be if they didn't spend 80% of their resources on all the other crap that's coming with it. We already have TV.. we already have internet browsers.. we can already stream.. we can already chat and Skype with friends... my TV can already switch between TV and gaming instantly; just change the input selection.. what we don't have is a true next gen gaming console and it looks like we aren't going to get that here.
XBOX voice commands for over 20 mins
Another 20 mins of integration BS.
1 new game/IP
What a shit presentation.
I stopped using consoles after PS2, the PS2 was my last console I actively used, because it had cool unique titles. I got a PS3 but played only two games ever, so I am by no means a console expert.
That said, there is the weird, the unsettling and the evil.
Weird: I find this notion of talking and gesturing to my devices ridiculous and... just totally uncool. Sorry if that sound odd, but I already hated this Kinect or what it was called. All this waving and talking to computers... no. Just no. It's just spooky and absurd. I want a controlled or mouse and keyboard. I am NOT talking to my computer.
Unsettling: Cloud. I vividly passionately hate the cloud idea. I want MY software on MY computer and not anywhere else. There is a plethora of reasons, but it mostly breaks down to the control issue. If software and data is no longer in my computer but in the cloud, I can't control it anymore. If my texts and savegames are in the cloud, it can be stolen much easier, it can get lost, and worst of all, if software is in the cloud or depends on the cloud, the "service" might break down and I am in 1000 troubles. Like the recent case in Sim City (5) has proven. I just hate this cloud idea. Especially now the cost of "always online" is apparently getting up. German Telekom will raise flatrate cost 15-20 Euro per months soon, and with the high traffic I am sure over time flatrate will become much more expensive globally. Which in TURN will create a split class society: rich cloud people and poor masses with limited access.
Evil: Outright evil is how my friends and everyone can SEE all I did, watched, played asf. I already find it highly disturbing that in Steam all people I know can see what games I own, when I played them, what I unlocked. So I am becoming more and more transparent. No more can I cover my life behind gentle lies, like "Oh sorry I don't have time right now" - "YES I can see you play Halo again now!" Sorry, but I want to keep my doings to myself and I want to be in control who knows what. And I most certainly DON'T want a free pass to EVERYONE to know all the stuff I watched and played! (Like all my friends know all the porn I watched... >.<)
So just from these 3 points I am not feeling well about this. But then, the console games of the last couple of years were mostly uninteresting to me. But some of the trends are unsettling and spooking me off. (Couple that with Google Glass I already can imagine humans becoming Borg drones in 100 years. NOT cool. Not at all! )
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
To be honest I'm not bowled over by any of the upcoming consoles so far. As a gamer I'm leaning towards the PS4, but I'm probably in the minority in stating that I do like some of the xbox ones multi media aspects and how it integrates with the tv. Not to keen on having to have kinect always on and always having to be online though, that's kinda creepy. I suppose I can always through a towel over it when I decide to play a game when I'm still in my underwear though. I'll wait till I see more detail on the PS4 before deciding what to go for.
BTW isn't the XBOX One damn ugly?