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[Column] General: The Best MMOs of 2013... So Far

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  • BladestromBladestrom edinburghPosts: 4,941Member Uncommon
    SWTOR should be 7, the rest is up fro debate i guess. Terrible game performance, dated graphics, stunted animation,  sterile stale worlds with funneled paths, one of the worst cash shops out there, terrible end-game, poor pvp,  extraordinary waste of money and IP.  Not the characteristics of a great game.   This reminds me of those '8/10' reviews.

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    Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D

  • uncletomauncletoma Santa Margherita LigurePosts: 159Member
    Well, we must come back here when TESO will be on the way (open beta or gold). Because no TESO no GOTY.
  • Alpha_6Alpha_6 Dallas, TXPosts: 2Member
    After watching the video I can see why EVE didn't get the top spot. There are factors to all the games listed and those not listed.

    Lets take one of the unmentioned games, WoW. This game had a "Fisher Price My First MMO" feel to it when I played. I felt like I could know the game on an almost intimate level after one or two weeks. While the idea of the interacting in the world of the Warcraft universe is a good concept the game makers didn't try to bring about a true expansion feel with their updates. More or less their expansions were higher level caps, more quests, and a handful of added and modified features. The game has gone through little to no graphical updates to keep up with the trend of games looking better and better visually. On the flip side WoW is one of the few games I know of that is simple and easy to pick up and understand. Unfortunately this is the only point aside from story that I can say is good. While fun for many it is a game geared for children with some adult themes.

    Guild Wars 2 feels like WoW's older brother. While the games have little in common aside from the fantasy feel and some sharing of races and monsters, the over all game play is more thought out and less chaotic in GW2. While I haven't picked up Guild Wars 2 yet the feel I get from descriptions of friends who play it and things I read on the net make it out of be WoW 2.0, or everything that WoW didn't/couldn't include. I will agree that it is over hyped because the descriptions that paint a picture in my mind don't match up with the image I see in the actual game play. As fun as the game may be I have yet to be impressed enough to call it more than a better version of WoW.

    EVE is a sleeper MMO. With a small but growing player base and expansions that feel like true expansions. EVE could be a prime candidate for the fabled 'Perfect MMO' While not having the classic Dungeons and Dragons feel that many MMOs have, it offers a true world in itself that is constantly evolving. EVE has a sense of order to it that other games either lack or cannot achieve. It is here that I feel the game draws in its particular fan base. The mature gamer. When I played EVE it felt very professional. Maybe because many of my peers were military. A good majority of the PvP in the game (at least what I saw of it) was thought out and organized. While the learning curve is notoriously steep among other MMOs, it helps cut players out of the running that could be detrimental to the game.

    Games like War Thunder, World of Tanks are roughly in the same league as Halo and Call of Duty multiplayer. They are over glorified lobby based matchmaker combat games.

    All in all both the games I mentioned and those I failed to mention are good games to those that find them fun. The fan in me feels that EVE should have the top spot, but the realist in me knows it will probably never get the top spot because it is ahead of the game and the player base is too specific.
  • SkuallSkuall UnknowPosts: 1,281Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by BadSpock

    MMORPG.com should just stop doing lists like this.

    They are always wrong.

    Or right.

    Or just off.

    Or just on.

    But man do they generate a lot of posts...

    and thats why they do it.....

     

    doing a list of best of 2013 in may? come on lol

  • RolanStormRolanStorm SochiPosts: 74Member Uncommon

    Have to agree with SWTOR part. They do improve it.

    I think this list is correct.

  • AntiquatedAntiquated Oak Brook, MIPosts: 671Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Skuall
    Originally posted by BadSpock

    MMORPG.com should just stop doing lists like this.

    They are always wrong.

    Or right.

    Or just off.

    Or just on.

    But man do they generate a lot of posts...

    and thats why they do it.....

     

    doing a list of best of 2013 in may? come on lol

    ^ Sure does get the fanboys worked up, don't it?

  • GwynbleiddGwynbleidd TehranPosts: 9Member

    Not to be picky but GW2 was the most terrible MMO came out ever. There's not enough incentive to keep you interested in login back after a few days of playing. The combat system is not ok even though I like action RPG style of gameplay, yet it failed miserably in that department. 

    They took away the fun in class-based RPG with turning every class into a DPS class. Leaving those who enjoy playing a healer class out of the game. And they completely destroyed the meaning of having an end-game. So you level a class to 80 by taking part in events and when you get to max level, nothing changes. 

    So far I'm enjoying the heck out of Neverwinter it's brilliant and they succeed in bringing a top notch MMO-ARPG that I'd want to play and it is more rewarding than GW2. 

    And Age of Wushu is just a laugh. 

    SWTOR is an awesome game, it truly is and they revolutionized the storytelling mechanics of MMORPGs. I truly loved the experience, the thing is you don't have enough content when you get to end-game - or rather was since I haven't check back since the launch of the expansion, so I have no idea how are they planing to address that, for a game that plays a lot like WoW the logical course is releasing content patch every few months to keep people interested.

    TSW is quite great, EVE is awesome and I don't care much for the rest.  

  • whisperwyndwhisperwynd montreal, QCPosts: 1,479Member

    Reading a list of Mmo's for 'Best of 2013' Interesting...

    Reading all the posts of raging fans concerning where they believe their game should be....priceless.

     

    Can't wait for the 'Worst of 2013' list.  Should be even better.

  • SmintarSmintar Fayette, MEPosts: 202Member Uncommon

    Well thats your opinion and you are entitled to it no matter how bad your opinion is.

    1st. Theres all knind of MMO's out there but only few arew orth the subscriptions of players and the population of those  should tell u who is #1 WOW

    now all the others r secondary but I would put EVE before the rest even though I dont care for gankers this one is indeed for the mature player by far best game play out there the best lookin game out there a massive world all put together on 1 server what other company has accomplished so much!

    I agree with those that say Rift is better than SWTOR  in fact SWTOR isnt in a top 20 list for me

    Funcom no thanks what more does 1 need to say about them.

    all the rest to me is just another piece of meat thrown out there to haggle over nothing really worth the time of day

  • uhm none of these games, it's a poor year, i'm looking to eso maybe that will be "the answer"
  • CrimsonFalkonCrimsonFalkon Omaha, NEPosts: 41Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by BillMurphy
    Man, if you guys like arguing about this one... I can't wait to see your reaction to next week's "Worst of 2013... So Far" list.

    I already have my popcorn for the show! When I want information I come to this site, but when I want entertained by the masses....I come to this site!!

    The hysterical and very entertaining comments to these types of opinionated yet insightful articles should require a cover charge to read!

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  • makasouleater69makasouleater69 franklin, NYPosts: 600Member Uncommon
    Did you even play these games your writing down 

     William Murphy?

    I dont see how you could of if this is the list you came up with. The secret world game engine is worst then everquest 2. The pvp is the secret world is terrible, any one in the game will tell you that. There is no crafting system worth anything, and theres no economy to speak of at all. As far as putting any game from perfect world on a best of list page is terrible. You are misleading a bunch of people to waste their money. All perfect world games are just a money trap, and are all broken. Most things from china are but........ Terrible list you made, if that is your honest list, then you obviously dont game at all. 

  • DoogiehowserDoogiehowser ParisPosts: 1,873Member
    Originally posted by makasouleater69
    Did you even play these games your writing down 

     William Murphy?

    I dont see how you could of if this is the list you came up with. The secret world game engine is worst then everquest 2. The pvp is the secret world is terrible, any one in the game will tell you that. There is no crafting system worth anything, and theres no economy to speak of at all. As far as putting any game from perfect world on a best of list page is terrible. You are misleading a bunch of people to waste their money. All perfect world games are just a money trap, and are all broken. Most things from china are but........ Terrible list you made, if that is your honest list, then you obviously dont game at all. 

    Please put forward your list of Best mmos of 2013 so far........ and yes he did play all those games...it is his job to do so. duh!!

    If we remove all the MMOS that you mentioned what else is left to add to the list? lol

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  • junzo316junzo316 Raleigh, NCPosts: 1,684Member Uncommon

    I've went back to SWTOR and I'm having an amazing time in game.  Lots of peeps to play with, the customization they added is great and it isn't dependent on the cash shop (if you subscribe).  I'm happy it made the list.

     

    I'm not surprised by RIFT not making this list.  Wouldn't be surprised to see it and WoW on the "Worst of" list.  Can't wait to see the comments on that post...lol. 

     

    Way to go making a controversial list and stirring up the community.  I've really enjoyed reading this thread, laughs by the dozens.   =)

  • ControlBlueControlBlue Not your business, NCPosts: 21Member

    The purpose of this post is to be controversial to generate posts and views.

    You all got served.

    A better list I think would be:

    1. World of Warcraft - Still the King, can't deny it
    2. Neverwinter - The would-be successor of WoW, unfortunately the cash shop might be their undoing.
    3. Eve Online - Still a force to be reckoned with, proves the validity of the sandbox model.
    4. Guild Wars 2 - Not stellar but still solid. Consistent Release Schedule.
    5. Age of Wushu - The latest good sandbox, community-driven and alive, a breath of fresh air in the genre, would be higher if not for ping and translation issues.
    6. Tera - The move to F2P is their last chance, they get in the list because they offer a beautiful, modern game for free (unlike ShitTOR)! Would be higher if it was not for a dated game design and grinding themepark leveling.
    7. Rift - Honorable mention for a game that always tried to do its best to please its subscribers. The recent move to F2P further proves that they deserve to be on that list as a potential big player as the best free raiding mmo.
    I think I would do a way better job than the OP :)
  • ControlBlueControlBlue Not your business, NCPosts: 21Member

    The purpose of this post is to be controversial to generate posts and views.

    You all got served.

    A better list I think would be:

    1. World of Warcraft - Still the King, can't deny it
    2. Neverwinter - The would-be successor of WoW, unfortunately the cash shop might be their undoing.
    3. Eve Online - Still a force to be reckoned with, proves the validity of the sandbox model.
    4. Guild Wars 2 - Not stellar but still solid. Consistent Release Schedule.
    5. Age of Wushu - The latest good sandbox, community-driven and alive, a breath of fresh air in the genre, would be higher if not for ping and translation issues.
    6. Tera - The move to F2P is their last chance, they get in the list because they offer a beautiful, modern game for free (unlike ShitTOR)! Would be higher if it was not for a dated game design and grinding themepark leveling.
    7. Rift - Honorable mention for a game that always tried to do its best to please its subscribers. The recent move to F2P further proves that they deserve to be on that list as a potential big player as the best free raiding mmo.
    Good job with the trolling OP :)
  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    My "seven"

    1 eve
    2 planetside 2 (shocking omission from the list, best engine going, best f2p model going)
    3 aow
    4 tsw
    5 gw2
    6 wow
    7 rift
  • jkwengertjkwengert SEATTLE, WAPosts: 9Member Common
    Originally posted by BillMurphy

    Rift might make the end of year list we're aiming to do in November (prior to the true "Awards" in December), if the F2P turns it around. But Storm Legion was a let down and it's been a ghost town for months.

    Opinions folks, we all can haz them.

    For clarity sake, I don't really play RIFT anymore as I struggled finding a great end-game guild that had a raiding schedule that worked for my life. So this isn't "fanboi" raving. This is just a sanity check for your nonsense.

    There's a difference between an opinion and BS and the BS factor in here just went through the roof. SL was a "let down"? Seriously? In what way?

    Storm Legion was the most massive expansion for a game outside of GW1s "expansions" which were fully self-contained brand new games.

    Here are 20 things off the top of my head RIFT SL expanded upon or added brand new:

    1. Multiple new ways to earn XP (10 different ways now)

    2. New raids

    3. New dungeons (including additional chronicles)

    4. TRIPLED the size of the gaming world

    5. New souls

    6. New currencies

    7. A few new types of dynamic content

    8. Massive crafting overhaul (even allow for BiS gear to be *crafted*) and large level cap raise in crafting

    9. New Planar Attunement XP with dozens of new skills and ways to further customize your character's build

    10. A massive overhaul to factions (can be multi-faction guilds, parties, LFG, dungeon finder, dynamic content, etc.)

    11. New gear types that can be upgraded

    12. TWO new gear slots

    13. Player housing that includes several THOUSAND items (and players can even vote on which player housing is the best)

    14. Added hundreds of new achievements

    15. Massive new set of rifts including many Great Hunt lures; hell they even tied in to Defiance and cross-universed rifts there so Hellbugs are in RIFT

    16. New skills

    17. Massive overhaul to every soul (now 40 souls)

    18. New mounts and fluff content (titles, pets)

    19. A 10-level cap increase

    20. New puzzles and hundreds of new artifacts

    Plus the lottery app is just the best. I keep using that even though I'm not active in the game anymore. Play the mobile app to earn me hundreds of gold a week? Yes, please. Log in once every two weeks, auction off all the artifacts I've "won", etc.

    Show me an expansion to any other game that did more?

  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member
    Originally posted by Kuro1n
    Wow how the fuck can you list GW2 over EVE? A game that has been getting free expansions for the last 10 years! A userbase that has been growing since day one. EVE number 1 and I dont even play that game anymore. Either MMORPG is getting paid to put GW2 there or bill is a fanboy of GW2, either way it's shit.

    lol Maybe they liked the game better.  EVE is incredibly boring to me, personally.

    And for those saying WoW should be #1, it doesn't deserve it, not for 2012 or 2013, because it sucks now.

  • monarc333monarc333 New York, NYPosts: 615Member Uncommon

    My list would have looked like:

    GW2

    Rift

    WoW

    Swtor

    Tera

    Neverwinter

    Eve

  • GardavsshadeGardavsshade Cedar Springs, MIPosts: 755Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ShakyMo
    How much did ea pay you to put a game from 2011, that sucks, on a best of 2013 list?

    Also eve, gw2 & tsw aren't from 2013 either.

    This.

    In my opinion.... ANY list that this website makes up will undoubtedly be a list of which MMO Publisher paid them the most money vs. who paid the least or none at all.

    Sorry MMORPG.com Staff... but it's blatantly obvious you have been "bought and paid for". Sorry but that's how I see it.

     

  • SirGradySirGrady Frankfurt Am MainPosts: 23Member Uncommon
    none of them would appear on my list ...
  • CoolitCoolit FalkirkPosts: 468Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by botrytis
    Originally posted by mindw0rk

    Shitty list, as always on mmorpg.com. Those are true winners:

    1. EVE Online (always was and still ahead of its time. The only true sandbox, MMORPG as it should be).

    2. TSW (the best MMORPG in many departments: story, characters, setting, development, graphics, atmosphere, quests)

    3. WoW (ultimate theme park, has everything for everyone)

    4. Age of Wushu (most unique MMORPG with best PvP system in ages. Amazing game overal, only weak point is PvE)

    5. Tie between TERA, AoC, Vanguard and LoTRO

    Neverwinter is disaster and doesnt deserve to be in top 10. SWToR is boring bland clone, same as RIFT. GW2... boring and disappointing. 

     

     

    EVE should not be number one and there are really not new players playing it - they are the same people that are obsessed with the game.

    I just started playing it last week having never tried it before and the Rookie Help channel has almost 5k people in it.  It definitely attracts a lot of new people not just vets.

  • discord235discord235 Woodland, CAPosts: 143Member Uncommon
    Instead of, "Best of 2013," a better title would be  - "The only good MMOs currently worth spending your time on." Except for Darkfall, I have played all of these games and I have to agree that Guild Wars 2 is the best MMO out right now. What place the others come in at is irrelevant to me, since I can really only invest my time in 1 MMO at a time, and I tend to go with "the best." Personally, I think SWTOR FTP is far too limiting and Neverwinter, although pretty good in the FTP market, was overall very disappointing to me. My #2 pick would have to be The Secret World. Even though the combat is clunky, it is a WIN for the modern-day theme and it's horror-movie-like theme...and the fact that your armor/clothing has nothing to do with stats is awesome  and I think every MMO should be like that. 

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  • hammarushammarus minneapolis, MNPosts: 184Member
    Still want NW on that list?
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