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WOW is a clone.
filmoret
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I always laugh when someone calls a game wow clone. It is very odd because these gamers don't realize that WOW is a clone itself. Before WOW existed there was Everquest, Knight Online, Dark Age of Camelot. WOW has things from all three of these games and more from others as well. Look at Everquest 2 and how similar it is to WOW and you see that they both came out the same time frame and both have a lot of similar things. It is clear that WOW is just a part of a genre of gaming and a clone of older and better games in some cases. Remember, it isn't what kind of dog you are but who's dog you are that really counts. The very reason that some awesome games are fail and other horrible games are packed with players. It all has to do with the hype and advertising. Just make a decent game and you got a ton of players because you are Blizzard and you advertise on television. So next time you call anything a WOW clone, it would be better to give the credit where it is truly due. WOW is a copycat.
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Finally? You mean for the 10000th time, Op please take your ridiculous topic elsewhere. Do you seriously think this has not been covered thousands of times already?
Ah yes, the weekly "WoW is a clone" thread.
Doom was a clone
Command and Conquer was a clone
Final Fantasy Tactics was a clone
Ect, ect, ect.
I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil
Clearly the concept of sarcasm eludes you.
It doesn't matter. Everything you see, hear or feel is a clone. The music you listen to, the movies you watch and the games you play. All are inspired on previous examples.
Even people are clones.
It's a fact and we should stop arguing about it.
Ummm you really think WoW is revolutionary.... there is nothing in this game that was not in previous games.
The only thing WoW / Blizzard did right was create a game on a IP that people at the time really wanted to explore. So basically they played off the Hype of Warcraft 3 which in itself was a clone...
I must state also that it was not even an original IP either.
are you joking? this game WAS revolutionary! Please tell me a more heard of MMORPG.. everyone in the world knows of WoW!! And just because it stole ideas from other games doesn't mean it didn't have some great ideas of its own. Don't actually hold me to this but as far as i know it was the first game to have the faction pvp world wide.. and if im right, that is revolutionary.
Rofl .
WoW isn't a clone of Everquest in any way.
WoW is a completely different game from EQ, if you don't know why you haven't played the games.
EQ is a grind game - WoW is a quest hub game
EQ is a PVE game - WoW uses battlegrounds and PVP advancement
EQ is a zoned world - WoW is an open world
EQ has free mobs - in WoW every mob is on a leash
EQ uses an AA system for progress - WoW uses a spec system
EQ forces you to group - WoW allows you to solo on every class
they're both MMO, and WoW borrowed some things from EQ, but clones..not by a long shot
What planet are you from? First, read my post again. Second, read my post again.
So far the only ideas that I saw first on WOW is the matchmaking dungeons and pvp battlegrounds. I'm not sure if these came from other games or not.
The only reason WOW was soo successful was because it was the only game advertised on television aside from Everquest. They had millions to pour into their setup that other games did not. Yes they did leave a huge mark but only because they had the money to move forward not because they were a superior game.
Yes,it brought ideas from other MMO's together to help produce WoW and the standard in MMO's that you see today..
However,it did introduce new things to the genre.Accessibility and Ease of difficulty to name a couple,those of which im not a fan of.
but it did make the genre explode in population,as we all know.It brought in people who wouldnt normally play MMO's back then into the fold.
It also sent the the genre into what seems like an endless pit of stagnation.As all the business heads are clamoring for the money.
WoW copied aspects from other MMOs, namely Everquest and improved on it.
Please educate yourself before typing uneducated opinions.
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WoW was a vastly different game from the ones before it, and the reason for WoW's success was:
1. Because it was Blizzard and that alone gives them incredibly attention
2. Because WoW was the first MMO that was accessible to everyone and distributed worldwide, unlike EQ
It was not just because they advertised, advertising gets your foot in the door, and frankly Blizzard didn't need the advertising, WoW was a massive success because it was so accessible and solid.
Yes but pong cloned table tennis and table tennis cloned tennis and tennis cloned people throwing things to each other and people throwing things to each other cloned people handing things to each other and people handing things to each other cloned... trading in WoW?
Where from this do you get that i was disagreeing with wow being a clone? i was simply saying that it did it better than other mmos thus being idolized as the best one out there taking credit for the ideas they stole. Which is why all other mmorpg's are called wow clones.
so please..
learn to comprehend before responding uncomprehendingly.
Only thing WoW did better then other games was make it more geared towards children. They lowered the skill level needed to be good at the game which opened up a lot of new customers, casual people, parents and their kids who can now play with each other. The main games before WoW required skill to be good at it.
If you played those games you would understand.
Also WoW had a lot of bugs when it first came out. It was no where near a polished game when released. It also was not as popular. This was because it was harder. It followed the games before it like EQ and DAOC where things were not easy and you had to be good. Then at some point they nerfed everything. Things could now be done well half paying attention. If you had good gear you no longer had to be a good player.
Then addons came out. Now the skill was completely out the door. Years of playing this way has made it so people can not survive in any game other then WoW. They play a new game, can't heal because they do not have heal bot. Can't keep aggro because they do not have something telling them when they need to increase aggro. Pretty much there aren't things holding their hand making it easy mode. They try to switch games. End up not able to handle the skill level needed and go back to WoW.
WoW was very popular. It brought MMOs into the mainstream spotlight. It also ended all hope for MMOs as the new online players today need the WoW crutch in order to play them.
I cherish your every post, filmoret.
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WoW was a clone of what?
Oh please. Why can't people just accept the fact that Blizzard released a highly polished and fun mmo? The game works the way its suppose to work. Its mmorpg101 to the core. It offers something for everybody. And its made by a great developer. How does that not make it a superior game?
If people weren't having fun, then they wouldn't have stuck around. SWTOR, lotro, and Warhammer are just as big IPs (if not bigger) but they failed to attract the same success because the games, while having some cool ideas and fun aspects, had either some glaring problems, shoddy service, or poor system designs. And don't think for a second that millions of people haven't tried out those games, because they have and decided not to keep on playing.
But going back to the original topic - I think the word 'clone' is a little overused, especially on this forum. But I would say that if people are going to say 'mmo X' is a clone of WoW, then they might as well use the same mindset and realize that WoW is a clone of EQ. Rob Pardo and Jeff Kaplan can attest to that.