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  • MagiknightMagiknight McKinleyville, CAPosts: 782Member Common
    Originally posted by InsaneDalek
    Originally posted by Magiknight
    Originally posted by simsalabim77
    Originally posted by InsaneDalek

     

    Bullshit. People are ultimately responsible for their actions. Gambling, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, tobacco use, obesity, etc. aren't afflictions or diseases. They're personal decisions, or the consequences thereof.

    Just because some people have problems with gambling doesn't mean it should be banned for everyone who chooses to enjoy it responsibly as well. Same goes for fast food, alcohol, soda, lawn darts, etc.

    It's ridiculous how many people worldwide are blaming their mistakes on everyone BUT themselves, then calling for Big Brother to protect them from their own stupidity and poor judgment. It's very much a, "If I can't have it, no one will!", attitude.

     

     

    I agree with this 100%. I was a huge fatty at one point who stuffed his face with entire pizzas and 2 liters of soda. I didn't blame the makers of the pizza and soda. I got angry with myself one day and decided to stop being fat. People really need to start taking responsibility for their actions. 

    So you could change what happened to you.  That's good. Someone who has gambled away their home and all their savings (maybe 20 years worth) might never get any of that back. Their life as they knew it is over.

    And that's THEIR FAULT. Not the bloody casino's. It's their fault they let it go that far. It sucks, sure, but people who are capable of enjoying gambling responsibly shouldn't have to lose something they find enjoyable just because some idiot with no self-control gambled away all his / her money.

    Everybody knows the odds are skewed greatly in favor of the house. Everybody. The only way to remain ignorant of that fact is to do so willfully.

    Someone who has gambled their house away could have easily put down the cards and walked away from the table well before it got to that point. Nobody forced them to gamble, they decided themselves to continue on despite the stakes.

    I enjoy gambling quite a bit myself. However, I haven't gone to a casino in quite some time because I know I can't afford to gamble. In other words, I practice self-restraint. Something which very few people seem to do, these days.

    It's as much the gambling industries fault as the persons. Addiction is a relationship between a person and a substance or action. People who study cocaine addiction don't just study the person, but the drug too.

    Who said anything about losing it? Why not do it responsibly. Get rid of the lies. Make the odds apparent for all games. Put limits on how much people can spend. Make sure people who gamble like every day are doing OK. The industry needs to step up their game and take as much responsibility as the players.

    No one forces anyone to do anything anymore. No one has the courage for that. So they're smarter about tricking people.

  • MagiknightMagiknight McKinleyville, CAPosts: 782Member Common

    I know everyone here has had "personal choice" crammed into their heads since pre K but educate yourselves a little. Read a book or at least watch this.

     

    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7375124n

  • NitthNitth AustraliaPosts: 3,684Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by Magiknight
    Originally posted by InsaneDalek Originally posted by Magiknight Originally posted by simsalabim77 Originally posted by InsaneDalek  
    Bullshit. People are ultimately responsible for their actions. Gambling, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, tobacco use, obesity, etc. aren't afflictions or diseases. They're personal decisions, or the consequences thereof. Just because some people have problems with gambling doesn't mean it should be banned for everyone who chooses to enjoy it responsibly as well. Same goes for fast food, alcohol, soda, lawn darts, etc. It's ridiculous how many people worldwide are blaming their mistakes on everyone BUT themselves, then calling for Big Brother to protect them from their own stupidity and poor judgment. It's very much a, "If I can't have it, no one will!", attitude.  
      I agree with this 100%. I was a huge fatty at one point who stuffed his face with entire pizzas and 2 liters of soda. I didn't blame the makers of the pizza and soda. I got angry with myself one day and decided to stop being fat. People really need to start taking responsibility for their actions. 
    So you could change what happened to you.  That's good. Someone who has gambled away their home and all their savings (maybe 20 years worth) might never get any of that back. Their life as they knew it is over.
    And that's THEIR FAULT. Not the bloody casino's. It's their fault they let it go that far. It sucks, sure, but people who are capable of enjoying gambling responsibly shouldn't have to lose something they find enjoyable just because some idiot with no self-control gambled away all his / her money. Everybody knows the odds are skewed greatly in favor of the house. Everybody. The only way to remain ignorant of that fact is to do so willfully. Someone who has gambled their house away could have easily put down the cards and walked away from the table well before it got to that point. Nobody forced them to gamble, they decided themselves to continue on despite the stakes. I enjoy gambling quite a bit myself. However, I haven't gone to a casino in quite some time because I know I can't afford to gamble. In other words, I practice self-restraint. Something which very few people seem to do, these days.
    It's as much the gambling industries fault as the persons. Addiction is a relationship between a person and a substance or action. People who study cocaine addiction don't just study the person, but the drug too.

    Who said anything about losing it? Why not do it responsibly. Get rid of the lies. Make the odds apparent for all games. Put limits on how much people can spend. Make sure people who gamble like every day are doing OK. The industry needs to step up their game and take as much responsibility as the players.

    No one forces anyone to do anything anymore. No one has the courage for that. So they're smarter about tricking people.


    I think thats fair. Give people the right information to make an informed choice.

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  • InsaneDalekInsaneDalek Detroit, MIPosts: 119Member
    Originally posted by Magiknight
    Originally posted by InsaneDalek
    Originally posted by Magiknight
    Originally posted by simsalabim77
    Originally posted by InsaneDalek

     

    Bullshit. People are ultimately responsible for their actions. Gambling, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, tobacco use, obesity, etc. aren't afflictions or diseases. They're personal decisions, or the consequences thereof.

    Just because some people have problems with gambling doesn't mean it should be banned for everyone who chooses to enjoy it responsibly as well. Same goes for fast food, alcohol, soda, lawn darts, etc.

    It's ridiculous how many people worldwide are blaming their mistakes on everyone BUT themselves, then calling for Big Brother to protect them from their own stupidity and poor judgment. It's very much a, "If I can't have it, no one will!", attitude.

     

     

    I agree with this 100%. I was a huge fatty at one point who stuffed his face with entire pizzas and 2 liters of soda. I didn't blame the makers of the pizza and soda. I got angry with myself one day and decided to stop being fat. People really need to start taking responsibility for their actions. 

    So you could change what happened to you.  That's good. Someone who has gambled away their home and all their savings (maybe 20 years worth) might never get any of that back. Their life as they knew it is over.

    And that's THEIR FAULT. Not the bloody casino's. It's their fault they let it go that far. It sucks, sure, but people who are capable of enjoying gambling responsibly shouldn't have to lose something they find enjoyable just because some idiot with no self-control gambled away all his / her money.

    Everybody knows the odds are skewed greatly in favor of the house. Everybody. The only way to remain ignorant of that fact is to do so willfully.

    Someone who has gambled their house away could have easily put down the cards and walked away from the table well before it got to that point. Nobody forced them to gamble, they decided themselves to continue on despite the stakes.

    I enjoy gambling quite a bit myself. However, I haven't gone to a casino in quite some time because I know I can't afford to gamble. In other words, I practice self-restraint. Something which very few people seem to do, these days.

    It's as much the gambling industries fault as the persons. Addiction is a relationship between a person and a substance or action. People who study cocaine addiction don't just study the person, but the drug too.

    Who said anything about losing it? Why not do it responsibly. Get rid of the lies. Make the odds apparent for all games. Put limits on how much people can spend. Make sure people who gamble like every day are doing OK. The industry needs to step up their game and take as much responsibility as the players.

    No one forces anyone to do anything anymore. No one has the courage for that. So they're smarter about tricking people.

    They don't trick anybody. Read my post again: EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THE ODDS ARE SKEWED IN FAVOR OF THE HOUSE.

    Limits on spending? What baloney. If I can afford to spend a million dollars gambling, then that's my goddamn business. I shouldn't be limited to half a million just because somebody might exercise poor judgment. It's my money, and I'll spend it as I see fit.

    And I'm not going to address your incredibly unrealistic idea of having the casino 'make sure people who gamble a lot are doing okay'. That's just complete and utter hogwash.

    I'm done. You seem hell-bent on both ignoring what myself and others have to say when it's not in your favor, and making up false accusations of casinos 'lying' to people. That's bunk. They promise a chance to win, and give you exactly that: a chance.

    It's a sad day indeed when a family is too afraid of reprisals to publicly thank somebody for saving their lives.

  • simsalabim77simsalabim77 Somewhere, CAPosts: 627Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Magiknight
    Originally posted by simsalabim77
    Originally posted by Magiknight
    Originally posted by simsalabim77
    Originally posted by InsaneDalek

     

    Bullshit. People are ultimately responsible for their actions. Gambling, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, tobacco use, obesity, etc. aren't afflictions or diseases. They're personal decisions, or the consequences thereof.

    Just because some people have problems with gambling doesn't mean it should be banned for everyone who chooses to enjoy it responsibly as well. Same goes for fast food, alcohol, soda, lawn darts, etc.

    It's ridiculous how many people worldwide are blaming their mistakes on everyone BUT themselves, then calling for Big Brother to protect them from their own stupidity and poor judgment. It's very much a, "If I can't have it, no one will!", attitude.

     

     

    I agree with this 100%. I was a huge fatty at one point who stuffed his face with entire pizzas and 2 liters of soda. I didn't blame the makers of the pizza and soda. I got angry with myself one day and decided to stop being fat. People really need to start taking responsibility for their actions. 

    So you could change what happened to you.  That's good. Someone who has gambled away their home and all their savings (maybe 20 years worth) might never get any of that back. Their life as they knew it is over.

     

    Guess they'll have to dust themselves off and start over by first taking responsibility for their actions instead of blaming the casinos. 

    Is living on the streets and relying on free food taking responsibility? What is taking responsibility?

     

    If that's what their actions have led to, then they need to deal with the consequences. I guess it's pretty cold-hearted of me, but I'm fed up with people making excuses for their actions. Yes, their lives might be ruined, but that's how the cookie crumbles. How's that Jurrasic Park quote go? "I don't blame people for their mistakes. But I do ask that they pay for them."

  • InsaneDalekInsaneDalek Detroit, MIPosts: 119Member
    Originally posted by Magiknight

    I know everyone here has had "personal choice" crammed into their heads since pre K but educate yourselves a little. Read a book or at least watch this.

     

    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7375124n

    You know what else triggers those same things? Sex, driving fast, roller coasters, skydiving, base jumping, board games, weightlifting, jogging, outdoor sports, ice hockey... imagine that, pleasurable things trigger pleasurable feelings.

    Guess what? It's still the person's fault.

    If people like you had their way, nobody would be held accountable for their own actions anymore.

    Oh, and take your patronizing, holier-than-thou attitude and shove it up hard. Welcome to my 'blocked' list.

    It's a sad day indeed when a family is too afraid of reprisals to publicly thank somebody for saving their lives.

  • MagiknightMagiknight McKinleyville, CAPosts: 782Member Common
    Originally posted by InsaneDalek
    Originally posted by Magiknight
    Originally posted by InsaneDalek
    Originally posted by Magiknight
    Originally posted by simsalabim77
    Originally posted by InsaneDalek

     

    Bullshit. People are ultimately responsible for their actions. Gambling, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, tobacco use, obesity, etc. aren't afflictions or diseases. They're personal decisions, or the consequences thereof.

    Just because some people have problems with gambling doesn't mean it should be banned for everyone who chooses to enjoy it responsibly as well. Same goes for fast food, alcohol, soda, lawn darts, etc.

    It's ridiculous how many people worldwide are blaming their mistakes on everyone BUT themselves, then calling for Big Brother to protect them from their own stupidity and poor judgment. It's very much a, "If I can't have it, no one will!", attitude.

     

     

    I agree with this 100%. I was a huge fatty at one point who stuffed his face with entire pizzas and 2 liters of soda. I didn't blame the makers of the pizza and soda. I got angry with myself one day and decided to stop being fat. People really need to start taking responsibility for their actions. 

    So you could change what happened to you.  That's good. Someone who has gambled away their home and all their savings (maybe 20 years worth) might never get any of that back. Their life as they knew it is over.

    And that's THEIR FAULT. Not the bloody casino's. It's their fault they let it go that far. It sucks, sure, but people who are capable of enjoying gambling responsibly shouldn't have to lose something they find enjoyable just because some idiot with no self-control gambled away all his / her money.

    Everybody knows the odds are skewed greatly in favor of the house. Everybody. The only way to remain ignorant of that fact is to do so willfully.

    Someone who has gambled their house away could have easily put down the cards and walked away from the table well before it got to that point. Nobody forced them to gamble, they decided themselves to continue on despite the stakes.

    I enjoy gambling quite a bit myself. However, I haven't gone to a casino in quite some time because I know I can't afford to gamble. In other words, I practice self-restraint. Something which very few people seem to do, these days.

    It's as much the gambling industries fault as the persons. Addiction is a relationship between a person and a substance or action. People who study cocaine addiction don't just study the person, but the drug too.

    Who said anything about losing it? Why not do it responsibly. Get rid of the lies. Make the odds apparent for all games. Put limits on how much people can spend. Make sure people who gamble like every day are doing OK. The industry needs to step up their game and take as much responsibility as the players.

    No one forces anyone to do anything anymore. No one has the courage for that. So they're smarter about tricking people.

    They don't trick anybody. Read my post again: EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THE ODDS ARE SKEWED IN FAVOR OF THE HOUSE.

    Limits on spending? What baloney. If I can afford to spend a million dollars gambling, then that's my goddamn business. I shouldn't be limited to half a million just because somebody might exercise poor judgment. It's my money, and I'll spend it as I see fit.

    And I'm not going to address your incredibly unrealistic idea of having the casino 'make sure people who gamble a lot are doing okay'. That's just complete and utter hogwash.

    I'm done. You seem hell-bent on both ignoring what myself and others have to say when it's not in your favor, and making up false accusations of casinos 'lying' to people. That's bunk. They promise a chance to win, and give you exactly that: a chance.

    Know that the odds are skewed in favor of the house isn't enough. The odds must be made explicit in their ads and when you play. There is 0 chance for a long term player of any gambling game. The exception being the lottery winners, many of whom are now in debt. Bye.

  • MagiknightMagiknight McKinleyville, CAPosts: 782Member Common
    Originally posted by InsaneDalek
    Originally posted by Magiknight

    I know everyone here has had "personal choice" crammed into their heads since pre K but educate yourselves a little. Read a book or at least watch this.

     

    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7375124n

    You know what else triggers those same things? Sex, driving fast, roller coasters, skydiving, base jumping, board games, weightlifting, jogging, outdoor sports, ice hockey... imagine that, pleasurable things trigger pleasurable feelings.

    Guess what? It's still the person's fault.

    If people like you had their way, nobody would be held accountable for their own actions anymore.

    Oh, and take your patronizing, holier-than-thou attitude and shove it up hard. Welcome to my 'blocked' list.

    Those things don't ruin lives or harm society. Guess what? The industry is still just as responsible.

  • MagiknightMagiknight McKinleyville, CAPosts: 782Member Common
    Originally posted by simsalabim77
    Originally posted by Magiknight
    Originally posted by simsalabim77
    Originally posted by Magiknight
    Originally posted by simsalabim77
    Originally posted by InsaneDalek

     

    Bullshit. People are ultimately responsible for their actions. Gambling, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, tobacco use, obesity, etc. aren't afflictions or diseases. They're personal decisions, or the consequences thereof.

    Just because some people have problems with gambling doesn't mean it should be banned for everyone who chooses to enjoy it responsibly as well. Same goes for fast food, alcohol, soda, lawn darts, etc.

    It's ridiculous how many people worldwide are blaming their mistakes on everyone BUT themselves, then calling for Big Brother to protect them from their own stupidity and poor judgment. It's very much a, "If I can't have it, no one will!", attitude.

     

     

    I agree with this 100%. I was a huge fatty at one point who stuffed his face with entire pizzas and 2 liters of soda. I didn't blame the makers of the pizza and soda. I got angry with myself one day and decided to stop being fat. People really need to start taking responsibility for their actions. 

    So you could change what happened to you.  That's good. Someone who has gambled away their home and all their savings (maybe 20 years worth) might never get any of that back. Their life as they knew it is over.

     

    Guess they'll have to dust themselves off and start over by first taking responsibility for their actions instead of blaming the casinos. 

    Is living on the streets and relying on free food taking responsibility? What is taking responsibility?

     

    If that's what their actions have led to, then they need to deal with the consequences. I guess it's pretty cold-hearted of me, but I'm fed up with people making excuses for their actions. Yes, their lives might be ruined, but that's how the cookie crumbles. How's that Jurrasic Park quote go? "I don't blame people for their mistakes. But I do ask that they pay for them."

    They were lied to and robbed. The gambling industry gets most of their profits from these people. Without these people the gambling industry would crumble.

    Blaming the people who ruined their lives is clever enough, and false enough. But at least one thing is accomplished. The direction of resentment against the gambling industry is redirected.

  • simsalabim77simsalabim77 Somewhere, CAPosts: 627Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Magiknight
    Originally posted by simsalabim77
    Originally posted by Magiknight
    Originally posted by simsalabim77
    Originally posted by Magiknight
    Originally posted by simsalabim77
    Originally posted by InsaneDalek

     

    Bullshit. People are ultimately responsible for their actions. Gambling, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, tobacco use, obesity, etc. aren't afflictions or diseases. They're personal decisions, or the consequences thereof.

    Just because some people have problems with gambling doesn't mean it should be banned for everyone who chooses to enjoy it responsibly as well. Same goes for fast food, alcohol, soda, lawn darts, etc.

    It's ridiculous how many people worldwide are blaming their mistakes on everyone BUT themselves, then calling for Big Brother to protect them from their own stupidity and poor judgment. It's very much a, "If I can't have it, no one will!", attitude.

     

     

    I agree with this 100%. I was a huge fatty at one point who stuffed his face with entire pizzas and 2 liters of soda. I didn't blame the makers of the pizza and soda. I got angry with myself one day and decided to stop being fat. People really need to start taking responsibility for their actions. 

    So you could change what happened to you.  That's good. Someone who has gambled away their home and all their savings (maybe 20 years worth) might never get any of that back. Their life as they knew it is over.

     

    Guess they'll have to dust themselves off and start over by first taking responsibility for their actions instead of blaming the casinos. 

    Is living on the streets and relying on free food taking responsibility? What is taking responsibility?

     

    If that's what their actions have led to, then they need to deal with the consequences. I guess it's pretty cold-hearted of me, but I'm fed up with people making excuses for their actions. Yes, their lives might be ruined, but that's how the cookie crumbles. How's that Jurrasic Park quote go? "I don't blame people for their mistakes. But I do ask that they pay for them."

    They were lied to and robbed. The gambling industry gets most of their profits from these people. Without these people the gambling industry would crumble.

    Blaming the people who ruined their lives is clever enough, and false enough. But at least one thing is accomplished. The direction of resentment against the gambling industry is redirected.

    They weren't lied to. It's gambling. Look it up in the dictionary. 

     

    to expose to hazard; risk

    to bet on an uncertain outcome

    to take a risk in the hope of gaining an advantage or a benefit

    to engage in reckless or hazardous behavior

    to play a game of chance for stakes

     

    It's not rocket science. People gamble knowing that they could lose. I'm done arguing with you as our views on this are diametrically opposed. 

  • MagiknightMagiknight McKinleyville, CAPosts: 782Member Common
    Originally posted by simsalabim77
    Originally posted by Magiknight
    Originally posted by simsalabim77
    Originally posted by Magiknight
    Originally posted by simsalabim77
    Originally posted by Magiknight
    Originally posted by simsalabim77
    Originally posted by InsaneDalek

     

    Bullshit. People are ultimately responsible for their actions. Gambling, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, tobacco use, obesity, etc. aren't afflictions or diseases. They're personal decisions, or the consequences thereof.

    Just because some people have problems with gambling doesn't mean it should be banned for everyone who chooses to enjoy it responsibly as well. Same goes for fast food, alcohol, soda, lawn darts, etc.

    It's ridiculous how many people worldwide are blaming their mistakes on everyone BUT themselves, then calling for Big Brother to protect them from their own stupidity and poor judgment. It's very much a, "If I can't have it, no one will!", attitude.

     

     

    I agree with this 100%. I was a huge fatty at one point who stuffed his face with entire pizzas and 2 liters of soda. I didn't blame the makers of the pizza and soda. I got angry with myself one day and decided to stop being fat. People really need to start taking responsibility for their actions. 

    So you could change what happened to you.  That's good. Someone who has gambled away their home and all their savings (maybe 20 years worth) might never get any of that back. Their life as they knew it is over.

     

    Guess they'll have to dust themselves off and start over by first taking responsibility for their actions instead of blaming the casinos. 

    Is living on the streets and relying on free food taking responsibility? What is taking responsibility?

     

    If that's what their actions have led to, then they need to deal with the consequences. I guess it's pretty cold-hearted of me, but I'm fed up with people making excuses for their actions. Yes, their lives might be ruined, but that's how the cookie crumbles. How's that Jurrasic Park quote go? "I don't blame people for their mistakes. But I do ask that they pay for them."

    They were lied to and robbed. The gambling industry gets most of their profits from these people. Without these people the gambling industry would crumble.

    Blaming the people who ruined their lives is clever enough, and false enough. But at least one thing is accomplished. The direction of resentment against the gambling industry is redirected.

    They weren't lied to. It's gambling. Look it up in the dictionary. 

     

    to expose to hazard; risk

    to bet on an uncertain outcome

    to take a risk in the hope of gaining an advantage or a benefit

    to engage in reckless or hazardous behavior

    to play a game of chance for stakes

     

    It's not rocket science. People gamble knowing that they could lose. I'm done arguing with you as our views on this are diametrically opposed. 


    Once again, regular gambling is a GUARANTEED LOSS for you and win for the industry. It's not a game of chance then. All of the advertisements say the opposite.

  • WizardryWizardry Ontario, CanadaPosts: 8,464Member Uncommon

    I cannot see it going legal because that would be a whole new business operation revolving around money and tax dollars.

    First of all there is no positive way to factually monitor AGE over the internet.Secondly gambling is a disease of the mind,some can control it ,some can't,do we really need more fails in society,especially inside gaming?

    Also it is a mechanic the government would not be able to monitor what so ever,they would have few mechanics in place to keep track of what is taxed and what is not.Also gambling laws change from state to state,the internet does not adhere to states,especially with use of Proxies.

    You know how i could see this making it one day?Money in the pockets,same reason Casinos were finally allowed in my part of Canada after years of lobbying against it.Money is the root of all evil,corruption is everywhere,especially inside government.


    Samoan Diamond

  • MagiknightMagiknight McKinleyville, CAPosts: 782Member Common
    Originally posted by Wizardry

    I cannot see it going legal because that would be a whole new business operation revolving around money and tax dollars.

    First of all there is no positive way to factually monitor AGE over the internet.Secondly gambling is a disease of the mind,some can control it ,some can't,do we really need more fails in society,especially inside gaming?

    Also it is a mechanic the government would not be able to monitor what so ever,they would have few mechanics in place to keep track of what is taxed and what is not.Also gambling laws change from state to state,the internet does not adhere to states,especially with use of Proxies.

    You know how i could see this making it one day?Money in the pockets,same reason Casinos were finally allowed in my part of Canada after years of lobbying against it.Money is the root of all evil,corruption is everywhere,especially inside government.

    Good points. But I have no doubt that we will have it very soon. You wont be able to play a video game without it asking you to make bets. Like you said, there's too much money in it for the corrupt government.

  • RobokappRobokapp Dublin, OHPosts: 5,206Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Magiknight
     
    Once again, regular gambling is a GUARANTEED LOSS for you and win for the industry. It's not a game of chance then. All of the advertisements say the opposite.

    Probability...OP did not study it.

     

    If a mother had two children, both girls, what are the odds of third child being a boy ?

     

    a) 0%

    b) 12.5%

    c) 40%

    d) 50%

    e) 77.5%

    f)100%

    g) other

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  • MagiknightMagiknight McKinleyville, CAPosts: 782Member Common
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    Originally posted by Magiknight
     
    Once again, regular gambling is a GUARANTEED LOSS for you and win for the industry. It's not a game of chance then. All of the advertisements say the opposite.

    Probability...OP did not study it.

     

    If a mother had two children, both girls, what are the odds of third child being a boy ?

     

    a) 0%

    b) 12.5%

    c) 40%

    d) 50%

    e) 77.5%

    f)100%

    g) other

    50%. Any other smart questions?

  • RobokappRobokapp Dublin, OHPosts: 5,206Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Magiknight
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    Originally posted by Magiknight
     
    Once again, regular gambling is a GUARANTEED LOSS for you and win for the industry. It's not a game of chance then. All of the advertisements say the opposite.

    Probability...OP did not study it.

     

    If a mother had two children, both girls, what are the odds of third child being a boy ?

     

    a) 0%

    b) 12.5%

    c) 40%

    d) 50%

    e) 77.5%

    f)100%

    g) other

    50%. Any other smart questions?

    it's actually 40% but for reasons not relevant.

     

    yes. one more.

     

    if there are 37 numbers, one is green, 18 are red and 18 are black, and betting on red or on black and winning doubles your money, what are your chances of winning ?

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  • DogblasterDogblaster PraguePosts: 491Member

    Stop blaming others and start blaming yourself .. casinos didnt take your money, you gave them your money cause you are douche.

     

    Its no ones fault but theirs ..

  • MagiknightMagiknight McKinleyville, CAPosts: 782Member Common
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    Originally posted by Magiknight
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    Originally posted by Magiknight
     
    Once again, regular gambling is a GUARANTEED LOSS for you and win for the industry. It's not a game of chance then. All of the advertisements say the opposite.

    Probability...OP did not study it.

     

    If a mother had two children, both girls, what are the odds of third child being a boy ?

     

    a) 0%

    b) 12.5%

    c) 40%

    d) 50%

    e) 77.5%

    f)100%

    g) other

    50%. Any other smart questions?

    it's actually 40% but for reasons not relevant.

     

    yes. one more.

     

    if there are 37 numbers, one is green, 18 are red and 18 are black, and betting on red or on black and winning doubles your money, what are your chances of winning ?


    Your chances of winning are 49%. How is this relevant at all to someone who would be playing a game for hours at a continuous disadvantage on a regular basis?

  • DogblasterDogblaster PraguePosts: 491Member
    Originally posted by Magiknight
    Originally posted by Robokapp

    you can't lose something unless you bet it.

     

    if you want no part in gambling, you can choose not to participate.

     

    gambling, particularly sport gambling has been there for hundreds of years outside the USA.

    Everyone think their in control of their betting until they've lost everything. No one started gambling saying "I'm going to lose everything."

     

    So you are for more than 8 Million Americans losing everything?

    Ye? If they are so dumb to loose everything in casino, so be it. Only they are responsible for the actions. Not god, not me, not casinos.

  • MagiknightMagiknight McKinleyville, CAPosts: 782Member Common
    Originally posted by Dogblaster

    Stop blaming others and start blaming yourself .. casinos didnt take your money, you gave them your money cause you are douche.

     

    Its no ones fault but theirs ..

    Casinos do take money. It's actually how they stay in business.

  • MagiknightMagiknight McKinleyville, CAPosts: 782Member Common
    Originally posted by Dogblaster
    Originally posted by Magiknight
    Originally posted by Robokapp

    you can't lose something unless you bet it.

     

    if you want no part in gambling, you can choose not to participate.

     

    gambling, particularly sport gambling has been there for hundreds of years outside the USA.

    Everyone think their in control of their betting until they've lost everything. No one started gambling saying "I'm going to lose everything."

     

    So you are for more than 8 Million Americans losing everything?

    Ye? If they are so dumb to loose everything in casino, so be it. Only they are responsible for the actions. Not god, not me, not casinos


    The industry is just as responsible as them.

  • RobokappRobokapp Dublin, OHPosts: 5,206Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Magiknight
    Once again, regular gambling is a GUARANTEED LOSS for you and win for the industry. It's not a game of chance then. All of the advertisements say the opposite.


    Your chances of winning are 49%. How is this relevant at all to someone who would be playing a game for hours at a continuous disadvantage on a regular basis?

    we're getting there.

     

    we just went from GUARANTEED LOSS to 49% chance of winning. Making some progress.

     

    now it's realistically 18/37 or 0.48648648648

     

    just so you don't hurt yourself, this means the "house" has a chance to win of 0.51351351352.

     

    So the house advantage is 0.02702702702 or 1/37.

     

    so out of 100 rolls, 2.7 of them you'll lose due to house advantage. 100 rolls is maybe 2 hours ? That's not so bad...is it.

     

    I know for a fact that somewhere in the game rules it states clearly that "in the case of a tie house wins" and so on. Soooo...how are you playing for hours if you don't know the rules of the game ? and if you do know the rules...how is it not your fault for your actions when you have been informed of all house advantages when you learned to play ?

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