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If a game is worth my time, I'll gladly pay a subscription fee. That has never been the barrier of entry or loyalty for me.
In fact, I generally prefer to pay a subscription - so I don't have to feel I'm missing out on something by not investing in the cash shop.
However, I think the GW2 cash shop is one the least intrusive and I've never been truly tempted to buy anything there.
The GW2 business model is fantastic for the consumer. I only wish I was more fond of the overall design of the game.
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Currently playing: Elder Scrolls OnlineMMORPG experiences:EQ2, AoC(pre f2p), Lotro,GW1,DDO, Aion,WoW( stop with wotlk),Allods, GW2Eu,War, Secret World
Waiting On: WoD Sometime Maybe: Elder Scrolls MMO, Might and Magic
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Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
Nope. No game current or in the next 2 years looks worth a sub.
It would be a revolutionary company that has a lot of resources to start with maybe a team of 70 people. Experienced ones too. The live team they employ would have to release updates monthly like Arena Net with the scale of large WoW or Rift updates. Just not possible with current technology.
Play for fun. Play to win. Play for perfection. Play with friends. Play in another world. Why do you play?
Not played GW2 since last November and uninstalled, If I don't think its worth my time to play as a F2P game why would I want to play it with a subscription? There is not one f2p game that I can honestly say grabs my attention like FFXI and Vanilla WoW did. Both sub based models and still are, Subscription isn't dead, its because companies are after making a quick buck to satisfy the investors, low quality games with cash shops with mechanics to grab the cash of the I want it now crowd.
If you say Gullible very slowly it sounds like orange.
nope not even remotely because here's the thing. These people in charge over there hardly address the concerns in their own forums, completely forget those concerns when they do a patch or content, and still expect purchases from the gem store when they put some cutesie thing in there. I can only imagine the kind of abuses they'd do if they got a sub every month.
Recent southshore should be a reminder to everyone, they were supposed to add DE's and metas to southshore in November. Nothing. And now they think it's the solution to add 4 things to Southshore.
Meanwhile the loot-nazi will continue to keep loot out of the hands of the farmer style players (because we're the scourge of the universe you see) and they'll continue to ignore the rest of the world when it comes to DE's and metas and continue to forget what they promised when it comes to class balance for the three weakest classes.
They don't deserve a monthly fee. I'm sure that their common practice of ignoring the forums and outcries of their players would be even worse still if they got one.
Hell we still haven't seen the retro laurels for achievement completion yet.
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One word: Never.
IMO, the game doesn't have any longevity to deserve a monthly subcription fee (in addition to the retail price).
Originally posted by Magnetia Nope. No game current or in the next 2 years looks worth a sub. It would be a revolutionary company that has a lot of resources to start with maybe a team of 70 people. Experienced ones too. The live team they employ would have to release updates monthly like Arena Net with the scale of large WoW or Rift updates. Just not possible with current technology.
For good measure it's best that you and people like you stay away from the genre altogether until it regains its luster from your perspective. I'm almost certain that there is a true addiction for some people and it's telling that their requirements to stay satisfied are getting exponentially higher- well outside the current constraints of technology like you said.
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I am done with p2p games
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Originally posted by nerbon even like 5 bucks ...
I don't play it now and it's free...
Originally posted by Qtar Atm there is no worth game on the market to pay sub ..
There never was. thats teh point.
In fact only tolerable ones were L2 and EvE (or other games like that) which actually never had any added fees over sub (read: paid expansions).
Originally posted by xAPOCx Seeing all those that say they are done with P2P games and will never touch them makes me want to play P2P games even more. The f2p and p2p crowd have different gaming views and i want nothing to do with the f2p crowd and how they approach gaming these days. Dont ask me to explain this to you either. You know exactly what i mean. If a Sub keeps you people out of a at least one decent game, then ill be happy to pay a sub.
You see, reading posts like yours make me feel good about P2P starting to be thing of the past (even Blizz is considering F2P since they dropped to 8m now).
Feeling entitled and "important" because you pay 15/month rofl. Yes we know that kind.
I own it and almost never play it. If it required a sub I would just stop playing it altogether.
It's not a cost thing, I just don't find the game interesting or fun anymore and usually only log in out of boredom.
While I did like some aspects of the game, it bored me to death and since I don't pla it anymore with it being free, I wouldn't play it if it had a sub.
I'm not a fan of F2P games anyway. They are too easy, full of too many crappy players, and very shallow games in general.
Originally posted by Latronus I'm not a fan of F2P games anyway. They are too easy, full of too many crappy players, and very shallow games in general.
Same as P2P ones.
And GW2 is not F2P game, so what does that have to do with GW2 anyway.