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They must be trying for "Most unlikable main character"

MkilbrideMkilbride Hooksett, NHPosts: 637Member Uncommon

It's depressing as, in Farscape, Chriton was just so damn awesome. As was his entire cast. Memorable.

 

This, so far, is just unbelievably generic. The main character makes you want to hate him with being a walking cliche.

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  • asmkm22asmkm22 Anchorage, AKPosts: 1,788Member
    Originally posted by Mkilbride

    It's depressing as, in Farscape, Chriton was just so damn awesome. As was his entire cast. Memorable.

     

    This, so far, is just unbelievably generic. The main character makes you want to hate him with being a walking cliche.

    The main character?  You mean the scientist?  He actually gets more interesting the further you go.  It's called character development.  Not everyone has to start off as a badass.

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  • MkilbrideMkilbride Hooksett, NHPosts: 637Member Uncommon

    Not talking about the game. About the show.

     

    What I am saying is, this is from the same guy who made FarScape. Clearly, he was hit by a bus since then and lost the idea of originality.

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  • kadepsysonkadepsyson sun prairie, WIPosts: 1,937Member
    Originally posted by Mkilbride

    Not talking about the game. About the show.

     

    What I am saying is, this is from the same guy who made FarScape. Clearly, he was hit by a bus since then and lost the idea of originality.

    Ah, well perhaps clarifying who and wtf you were talking about would have been a nice start.

    I think the show revolves around several main characters, each getting their own time for development.  Next week focuses on Irissa, for example.

     

    I prefer shows with many interesting characters instead of one character and things that may as well be talking furniture for all their story.

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  • asmkm22asmkm22 Anchorage, AKPosts: 1,788Member
    Originally posted by Mkilbride

    Not talking about the game. About the show.

     

    What I am saying is, this is from the same guy who made FarScape. Clearly, he was hit by a bus since then and lost the idea of originality.

    Sorry, I thought you were talking about the game since this is a gaming forum...

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  • OpapanaxOpapanax Rochester, NYPosts: 973Member
    Originally posted by kadepsyson
    Originally posted by Mkilbride

    Not talking about the game. About the show.

     

    What I am saying is, this is from the same guy who made FarScape. Clearly, he was hit by a bus since then and lost the idea of originality.

    Ah, well perhaps clarifying who and wtf you were talking about would have been a nice start.

    I think the show revolves around several main characters, each getting their own time for development.  Next week focuses on Irissa, for example.

     

    I prefer shows with many interesting characters instead of one character and things that may as well be talking furniture for all their story.

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  • DamonVileDamonVile Vancouver, BCPosts: 4,818Member
    They may as well of called the show Eurika2 it's the same plot pretty much.
  • OpapanaxOpapanax Rochester, NYPosts: 973Member
    Originally posted by DamonVile
    They may as well of called the show Eurika2 it's the same plot pretty much.

    You can only ask so much from SyFy tho. B-Rates has been there thing for so freaking long now.. HaHa

    Ice Spiders, Swamp Valcano, the list goes on and on..

    I love SyFy tho, most of their movies provide ample chances for  ROFLURFAO moments..

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  • MindTriggerMindTrigger La Quinta, CAPosts: 2,596Member
    Originally posted by Opapanax
    Originally posted by DamonVile
    They may as well of called the show Eurika2 it's the same plot pretty much.

    You can only ask so much from SyFy tho. B-Rates has been there thing for so freaking long now.. HaHa

    Ice Spiders, Swamp Valcano, the list goes on and on..

    I love SyFy tho, most of their movies provide ample chances for  ROFLURFAO moments..

    Still, it absolutely blows my mind that BSG was a SciFi Original, and now they come out with this garbage.  I like the show from the perspective of "there's little other sci fi to watch", but on any other merit, it's pretty weak.  I keep waiting for a character or two to jump out and make me care, but so far none of them have.  Compare this to a show like Firefly where each of the characters were extremely interesting, and they all meshed well together.  This isn't even in the same ball park.

    I'll keep watching it because I know a lot of shows had weak launches until they hit their stride, but if they don't start pulling it together towards the end of the season, I don't see myself wasting the time. Hell, Caprica was way more interesting, and they canceled it after a season.  What about Stargate Universe?  Far and away better than Defiance and canceled.

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  • AcidonAcidon Salem, ORPosts: 797Member

    Given this thread, I'm real excited to watch yesterday's episode.  It's still sitting on the DVR.

    Must have been some lol-worthy stuff.

    That said, I'm personally enjoying the show. /shrug

     

    EDIT:  Good point about Caprica.  That was interesting and I hated that it was only one season.  They could have done so much given the time period.

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  • MindTriggerMindTrigger La Quinta, CAPosts: 2,596Member
    Originally posted by Acidon

    Given this thread, I'm real excited to watch yesterday's episode.  It's still sitting on the DVR.

    Must have been some lol-worthy stuff.

    That said, I'm personally enjoying the show. /shrug

    It's ok, it's just that nothing really grabs me and makes me care.  I watch it because there's nothing else on, basically. It screams low budget too.  I hope they pull it together, but nothing about the actors really makes me think it's a diamond in the rough.  The writing is pretty weak too.

    The game is being hammered by its biggest fans for lack of content and bug fixes right now.  Seems like they should have picked the game or the show and put the money into one of them instead of both.

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  • MkilbrideMkilbride Hooksett, NHPosts: 637Member Uncommon

    Yeah, I just don't understand.

     

    Same Network as FarScape. Same Director as FarScape.

     

    And yet...he comes up with generic plots, and cliche characters.

     

    FarScape made me think Science Fiction shows could be more than "PEW PEW, LASERS!"

     

    Hell, the CGI even looks better than Defiance.

     

    Makeup, too.

     

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  • versulasversulas None of your damn business, WAPosts: 286Member Uncommon

    Meh... Main character seems like the typical han solo-archetype (scoundrel with a good heart, grudgingly choosing to do the right thing over profit). I actually found his "daughter" to be much more interesting to follow, and the preview clips show her getting more face-time in the future. 

    Still like the show so far, though after the pilot episode the plot slowed way the hell down - which was to be expected, they needed to grab viewers, which they did, now they're trying to ensure longevity. I doubt the show will ever reach Farscape proportions, but I'd definitely call it a success.

  • CaldrinCaldrin CwmbranPosts: 4,533Member Uncommon

    I am actually enjoying the show and the characters... in-fact after watching the show i ended up buying the game even tho i know its only average at best but it passes the time and lets me learn a bit more about the Defiance world..

    Don't get me wrong I only picked the game up because it was very cheap as it gets pretty boring really.. Follow marker to here, kill those, follow marker, kill more, follow marker kill.. Basically no character development.. selection of weapons seems pretty good.. gear seems to do nothing for your character as there are no stats to affect anyway.. still I'm pretty early on in the game so who knows it might get better.

     

    Anyway that's besides the point the TV series has been pretty good so far I find the episodes seem a bit short but there we go..

  • MkilbrideMkilbride Hooksett, NHPosts: 637Member Uncommon

    Yeah, the show itself isn't bad in some respects.

     

    It's just the main character is so unlikable. He has no qualities about him that I can go "Oh, cool".  His smug face looks like it needs a few teeth knocked out, too. He just has one of those faces...you want to punch. Guy must've had a rough life.

     

    I'm going to keep watching the series, but man, I can't stand how this is turning out like The Walking Dead Season 2. It's BARELY Science Fiction and mostly just human problems.

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  • SlukjanSlukjan Burlington, VTPosts: 254Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Acidon

    Given this thread, I'm real excited to watch yesterday's episode.  It's still sitting on the DVR.

    Must have been some lol-worthy stuff.

    That said, I'm personally enjoying the show. /shrug

     

    EDIT:  Good point about Caprica.  That was interesting and I hated that it was only one season.  They could have done so much given the time period.

     I also like Caprica.  I thought it was awesome and was going to do really well.  It had interesting characters and stories and in the BSG world! I couldn't figure out why it got canceled after 1 short season.  The general public thought it wasn't good?  Morons.

  • AeanderAeander Walker, LAPosts: 522Member Uncommon
    He's still better than Treesus... I mean Trahearne. 
  • BrucyBonusBrucyBonus londonPosts: 220Member

    The whole show is horribly cliched, actually buttock-clenchingly cliched in areas.  

    And if I watch one more episode with some god-awful emo soft-rock tune over a montage of all the characters reactions to events at the end of the show I will throw something through the TV.  The end-of-show montage in episode 4 and the accompanying song felt like it had been lifted straight from Team America: World Police. 

  • MindTriggerMindTrigger La Quinta, CAPosts: 2,596Member
    Originally posted by Slukjan
    Originally posted by Acidon

    Given this thread, I'm real excited to watch yesterday's episode.  It's still sitting on the DVR.

    Must have been some lol-worthy stuff.

    That said, I'm personally enjoying the show. /shrug

     

    EDIT:  Good point about Caprica.  That was interesting and I hated that it was only one season.  They could have done so much given the time period.

     I also like Caprica.  I thought it was awesome and was going to do really well.  It had interesting characters and stories and in the BSG world! I couldn't figure out why it got canceled after 1 short season.  The general public thought it wasn't good?  Morons.

    It had high production values / cost, so it needed a much larger audience to be profitable for them.  I also think they went a little too existential with the theme early on.  BSG at least waited mostly until the last couple seasons to get really weird in that way, where Caprica started out of the box pretty deep.

    I've learned from talking to people about that show, and about movies like Inception, that a large percentage of the population has trouble following a story that has multiple layers happening at once.  They literally get lost and confused.   I think the VR world and the ghost in the machine aspects of Caprica were difficult for some people to follow.

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  • evictonevicton Warren, PAPosts: 398Member
    I've liked the show so far, but if the sci-fi lineup also included caprica and universe it would be the weakest link.
  • GravargGravarg Harker Heights, TXPosts: 3,332Member Uncommon
    I don't really like Nolan, but Irisa is kinda cool, in a primal, dangerous hotty way lol.  My favorite character is Datak Tarr,  I like the Castithan race as a whole too.  Plus sitting around in a bath all day with Stahma doesn't hurt either lol.
  • apocolusterapocoluster newport news, VAPosts: 1,321Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Gravarg
    I don't really like Nolan, but Irisa is kinda cool, in a primal, dangerous hotty way lol.  My favorite character is Datak Tarr,  I like the Castithan race as a whole too.  Plus sitting around in a bath all day with Stahma doesn't hurt either lol.

    The interior shots of Datak's house hurts my brain especially the bath house. Lol are they bathing in milk?

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  • BetaguyBetaguy Halifax, NSPosts: 2,590Member
    Originally posted by kadepsyson
    Originally posted by Mkilbride

    Not talking about the game. About the show.

     

    What I am saying is, this is from the same guy who made FarScape. Clearly, he was hit by a bus since then and lost the idea of originality.

    Ah, well perhaps clarifying who and wtf you were talking about would have been a nice start.

    I think the show revolves around several main characters, each getting their own time for development.  Next week focuses on Irissa, for example.

     

    I prefer shows with many interesting characters instead of one character and things that may as well be talking furniture for all their story.

     +10 for intellectual post.  There is no one main character there is many.  I love the show it is better than Walking dead, breaking bad, and arrow to me.  Defiance, Game Of Thrones and  Vikings are my three top shows of 2013, thus far.

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  • VolkonVolkon Sterling, VAPosts: 3,788Member
    Hmm... I like the show so far. Got a real "Daddy worried about his little girl who's growing up" vibe there with Nolan from the episode that explored her "vision". Being the daddy of a little girl who's growing up (11, it's coming... yikes!) it hit home a little bit. 

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  • AldersAlders Jack Burton'sPosts: 1,857Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Betaguy
    Originally posted by kadepsyson
    Originally posted by Mkilbride

    Not talking about the game. About the show.

     

    What I am saying is, this is from the same guy who made FarScape. Clearly, he was hit by a bus since then and lost the idea of originality.

    Ah, well perhaps clarifying who and wtf you were talking about would have been a nice start.

    I think the show revolves around several main characters, each getting their own time for development.  Next week focuses on Irissa, for example.

     

    I prefer shows with many interesting characters instead of one character and things that may as well be talking furniture for all their story.

     I love the show it is better than Walking dead, breaking bad

     

    Whoa whoa whoa, i like the show, but this is just blasphemy.

    I prefer ensemble casts with many flawed characters.  I absolutely cannot stand black/white right/wrong bullshit.  I do love my Han Solo characters though and I'll wait and see where the show goes.  It's definitely not Firefly though.

  • DMKanoDMKano Gamercentral, AKPosts: 8,541Member Uncommon

    I am enjoying the show a lot - is it the best show on TV - no, but it's an awesome SyFy show, they haven't had a good one in years.

     

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