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You guys think DISNEY will do a new SW trilogy based MMORPG?

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  • DeaconXDeaconX Toronto, ONPosts: 3,067Member
    Originally posted by pmw4friend
    Honestly idk but i really hope they don't because i have never like star wars and i don't think ill ever do .. no disrespect for the people that do enjoy star wars but my opinion is that it sucks

    So, because you don't like something, you hope it isn't created for others that do?

    Kind of odd, especially since it wouldn't really affect you anyway...

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  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,207Member Uncommon

    It would be cool to play in the current universe going forward.  Leave original timeline alone (except maybe some personal story type instances) and focus on letting players touch the movie timeline (like LotRO) and exploring the rest of the galaxy.  I think interacting with iconic Star Wars lore figures would be extremely popular.

    They really need to consider who could build that in an epic Disney manner.  Not that many studios have done stuff on a grand scale and done it well.  There is also probably media politics involved in who could be involved (e.g. with Warner owning Turbine that might not be a likely alliance.).  Who could really make a Star Wars game right?  I keep going in circles with that one.

  • DeaconXDeaconX Toronto, ONPosts: 3,067Member
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Who could really make a Star Wars game right?  I keep going in circles with that one.

    That indeed is a great question.

    Quite hoenstly, there are very few current studios I would say even have a shot at getting it right and NONE I would say that I'd actually is perfect for the job. BioWare would have been the best candidate but... we know how that turned out.

     

    I'd say you pretty much have to build the right group... aside from that, and people are going to wanna crucify me for saying this... but I think SOE would be the company to do it -- I think EQNext is going to be a big step for them in a great direction for MMORPG's.

    I also believe if they got another shot at it, they'd have a wealth of lessons learned from SWG and from KOTOR... and they would build a 'SandPark' full of freedom and advneture.

     

    Aside from that, I think CCP could POSSIBLY be a strong candidate, as can funcom - who I admire for always at least trying new things even if things don't quite work out for them.  I actually feel kinda bad for funcom. Anyhoo...

    *braces for impact...*

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    BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,207Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by DeaconX
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Who could really make a Star Wars game right?  I keep going in circles with that one.

    That indeed is a great question.

    Quite hoenstly, there are very few current studios I would say even have a shot at getting it right and NONE I would say that I'd actually is perfect for the job. BioWare would have been the best candidate but... we know how that turned out.

     

    I'd say you pretty much have to build the right group... aside from that, and people are going to wanna crucify me for saying this... but I think SOE would be the company to do it -- I think EQNext is going to be a big step for them in a great direction for MMORPG's.

    I also believe if they got another shot at it, they'd have a wealth of lessons learned from SWG and from KOTOR... and they would build a 'SandPark' full of freedom and advneture.

     

    Aside from that, I think CCP could POSSIBLY be a strong candidate, as can funcom - who I admire for always at least trying new things even if things don't quite work out for them.  I actually feel kinda bad for funcom. Anyhoo...

    *braces for impact...*

    I came up with SoE as the only current group.  There are other studios that could almost do it, but not quite.  To really do it right I think a mix from all of the following studios would be good.

    ANet has a graet knack for making a world feel alive and their cities are top notch.  I thin they could grab the epic feel, but I'm not sure if they could do gritty or in depth rpg.

    XLGames, moreso Jake Song.  He has a great understanding of what drives open world pvp and politics.  He would lend a lot to indepth systems and complex interactions.

    For storytelling and making quests/stories feel immersive and part of the world I would say Funcom.  They also get gritty pretty good.

    Blizzard does epic scale well, but I feel like they're so wrapped up in their own IPs and style that they could do Star Wars like it needs to be.

    Carbine - Even though Wildstar isn't out and the team is sort of unproven in their current form, their ideas and approach I think would make a great addition to the creative mix.

    Then I get to SoE.  They understand rpg depth, massive game scale, and they get complex system integration.  They haven't done great with gritty in the past, but that's most of what is missing.

    If I could take elements from all those studios, plus several other people from studios or game projects then I think it could be the right team.  SoE would be a good publisher for this game I think along with making a good addition to the development team.

  • DamonVileDamonVile Vancouver, BCPosts: 4,818Member

    Building an mmo is like building an appartment building and trying to get your money back through rent. It's a bad investment with high risk.

    Disney is way too smart to ever buy into that nonsense. They build condos for huge profit ( consol games, movies, toys ect ) get in get out with bags of money and move on to the next fad. None of this life time of customer server and endless development.

    All you have to do is look at what happened to any big company that failed at living up to the fans expectation and you'd know Disney would never risk that for a silly game. Pissing off millions of fans and having their name dragged through the mud isn't the type of industry they'll ever get directly involved in.

  • simpliussimplius nakskovPosts: 1,043Member Uncommon

    they are involved,,they own the IP, remember?

    some fans are already blaming the mouse for swtors situation,,go figure

  • NasherUKNasherUK Secret cavePosts: 476Member Common

    Nope, because Bioware own the "Old Republic" name.  Even though it's still star wars.

     

    Anyway SWTOR isn't doing to bad.  I quit wow to play it and I've never looked back (though wow is in a pretty dreadful state now).  But you can't help but see EA's influence over it, SWTOR was dumbed down some during the beta because of EA. It started off a lot closer to KOTOR and your class and choices made much more of a difference.  But that's the kind of thing you get from big publishers these days. If a vegetable can't understand it, they don't like it :/

  • Pixel_JockeyPixel_Jockey Auburn Hills, MIPosts: 165Member

    Several years ago, I would have said Bioware could do it....mumble...mumble...mumble...

    I know SOE gets allot of heat around here, but I think they could do it. SWG initially was a great game (keeping in mind it's age and the time when it was released). Yes it was ruined by some horrible game changing desicions, but I feel SOE without LA looking over their shoulder could really make a good Star Wars MMO. One thing about SWG is that it FELT like Star Wars (SWTOR does not at all IMO). Like them or not, SOE has put out some good games over the years (EQ, Planetside, etc). Just my opinion.

  • BadOrbBadOrb ManchesterPosts: 791Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Pixel_Jockey

    Several years ago, I would have said Bioware could do it....mumble...mumble...mumble...

    I know SOE gets allot of heat around here, but I think they could do it. SWG initially was a great game (keeping in mind it's age and the time when it was released). Yes it was ruined by some horrible game changing desicions, but I feel SOE without LA looking over their shoulder could really make a good Star Wars MMO. One thing about SWG is that it FELT like Star Wars (SWTOR does not at all IMO). Like them or not, SOE has put out some good games over the years (EQ, Planetside, etc). Just my opinion.

    Well they could use most of the cancelled MMO game's stories from "The Agency" for an imperial agent MMO but I do feel they are a little busy with EQNext for the time being. Let's not forget in another thread , the interview with Mr Olhen , where other Ip's or possibly another SW MMO could be a possibility. Throws pixie dust and vanishes , again.

    Cheers,

    BadOrb.

    PSO 4 years , EQOA 4 months , PSU 7 years , SWTOR launch ongoing , PSO2 SEA launch ongoing , Destiny 360 launch ongoing.
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  • MikeBMikeB MMORPG.com Community Manager Queens, NYPosts: 5,720Administrator Uncommon

    If they do, it looks like EA will be doing it.

    http://kotaku.com/ea-snags-exclusive-deal-to-make-star-wars-games-493178983

    Commence head explosions? :)

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    Community Manager
    Twitter: @eMikeB

  • ragz45ragz45 rochester hills, MIPosts: 686Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by MikeB

    If they do, it looks like EA will be doing it.

    http://kotaku.com/ea-snags-exclusive-deal-to-make-star-wars-games-493178983

    Commence head explosions? :)

    Worst news of the decade.  Such a sad day for Star Wars and MMO players all together.

    Honestly this news deserves a headline all of it's own.

  • DauzqulDauzqul Detroit, MIPosts: 1,405Member Uncommon

    It really depends on how much the license will cost and what else is required to even purchase the license. I mean... Paris Hilton has a lot of money, but I doubt they would let someone like that license the Star Wars name. Disney has a purity and reputation to uphold. They just can't let anyone license it.

     

    If their restrictions and costs aren't crazy, we could see several future Star Wars MMOs.

  • MikeBMikeB MMORPG.com Community Manager Queens, NYPosts: 5,720Administrator Uncommon
    Originally posted by ragz45
    Originally posted by MikeB

    If they do, it looks like EA will be doing it.

    http://kotaku.com/ea-snags-exclusive-deal-to-make-star-wars-games-493178983

    Commence head explosions? :)

    Worst news of the decade.  Such a sad day for Star Wars and MMO players all together.

    Honestly this news deserves a headline all of it's own.

    Your wish is our command!

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  • BadOrbBadOrb ManchesterPosts: 791Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by MikeB
    Originally posted by ragz45
    Originally posted by MikeB

    If they do, it looks like EA will be doing it.

    http://kotaku.com/ea-snags-exclusive-deal-to-make-star-wars-games-493178983

    Commence head explosions? :)

    Worst news of the decade.  Such a sad day for Star Wars and MMO players all together.

    Honestly this news deserves a headline all of it's own.

    Your wish is our command!

    So Mr Olhen hinted at this and I picked up on it and got called , see bottom of my sig , a villain for it by none other than "Ignore me " so are you gonna come appogiese to me then huh ? Great news for SWTOR , seems like we might get another expansion or MMO , or RPG , who knows. Might have to change my pixie dust villain now then.

    Cheers,

    BadOrb.

    PSO 4 years , EQOA 4 months , PSU 7 years , SWTOR launch ongoing , PSO2 SEA launch ongoing , Destiny 360 launch ongoing.
    "SWG was not fun. Let it go buddy." quote from iiNoSkillzii 10/18/13
    The original propoganda pixie dust villain :[]

  • Pixel_JockeyPixel_Jockey Auburn Hills, MIPosts: 165Member
    Originally posted by MikeB

    If they do, it looks like EA will be doing it.

    http://kotaku.com/ea-snags-exclusive-deal-to-make-star-wars-games-493178983

    Commence head explosions? :)

    I think I just threw up in my mouth a little image

  • ktanner3ktanner3 lakeland, FLPosts: 4,074Member Common
    Originally posted by MikeB

    If they do, it looks like EA will be doing it.

    http://kotaku.com/ea-snags-exclusive-deal-to-make-star-wars-games-493178983

    Commence head explosions? :)

    I just felt a tremour in the force. As if dozens of angry posters cried out loud and were suddenly silenced. ;)

    Currently Playing: Star Wars The Old Republic

  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Arkham, VAPosts: 10,910Member


    Originally posted by ktanner3
    Originally posted by MikeB If they do, it looks like EA will be doing it. http://kotaku.com/ea-snags-exclusive-deal-to-make-star-wars-games-493178983 Commence head explosions? :)
    I just felt a tremour in the force. As if dozens of angry posters cried out loud and were suddenly silenced. ;)


    It doesn't say anything about MMOs though. Everybody knew that they would be making games, and everybody has overall been pretty happy with the Star Wars single player games, so there's no reason to think that EA is a poor choice to make a bunch of single player games based off of the SW franchise under Disney's direction.

    I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  • ktanner3ktanner3 lakeland, FLPosts: 4,074Member Common
    Originally posted by lizardbones

     


    Originally posted by ktanner3

    Originally posted by MikeB If they do, it looks like EA will be doing it. http://kotaku.com/ea-snags-exclusive-deal-to-make-star-wars-games-493178983 Commence head explosions? :)
    I just felt a tremour in the force. As if dozens of angry posters cried out loud and were suddenly silenced. ;)

    It doesn't say anything about MMOs though. Everybody knew that they would be making games, and everybody has overall been pretty happy with the Star Wars single player games, so there's no reason to think that EA is a poor choice to make a bunch of single player games based off of the SW franchise under Disney's direction.
    MMOs are just another category for game. When Disney says that EA is the exclusive maker of all Star Wars games that includes any MMOs that might be made.  I also have to disagree with your statement that everyone has overall been happy with the single player games. The Star Wars single player games have been very hit and miss.

    Currently Playing: Star Wars The Old Republic

  • AzureProwerAzurePrower AustraliaPosts: 1,508Member Uncommon

    Not that I like EA. But finally SWG can die and their fans can shut up about it.


    It's like a million voices cried out at once and were suddenly silenced. Music to my ears.

  • ktanner3ktanner3 lakeland, FLPosts: 4,074Member Common
    Originally posted by AzurePrower

    Not that I like EA. But finally SWG can die and their fans can shut up about it.


    It's like a million voices cried out at once and were suddenly silenced. Music to my ears.

    More like a couple dozen posters cried out at once and were suddenly silenced. If there had actually been a million the game would have never shut down. ;)

    Currently Playing: Star Wars The Old Republic

  • LoverNoFighterLoverNoFighter Star CItyPosts: 294Member
    Originally posted by ktanner3
    Originally posted by AzurePrower

    Not that I like EA. But finally SWG can die and their fans can shut up about it.


    It's like a million voices cried out at once and were suddenly silenced. Music to my ears.

    More like a couple dozen posters cried out at once and were suddenly silenced. If there had actually been a million the game would have never shut down. ;)

     Uhm, yes it would. Even 1 mill subs wouldn't be high enough for LA/SOE or whoever they are. They wanted WoW sub numbers.

    Greed > anything

  • winterwinter El Paso, TXPosts: 2,276Member Uncommon
    To the OP, No, just no
  • simpliussimplius nakskovPosts: 1,043Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ragz45
    Originally posted by MikeB

    If they do, it looks like EA will be doing it.

    http://kotaku.com/ea-snags-exclusive-deal-to-make-star-wars-games-493178983

    Commence head explosions? :)

    Worst news of the decade.  Such a sad day for Star Wars and MMO players all together.

    Honestly this news deserves a headline all of it's own.

    yea  ,,how well are they treating the warhammer IP?

    and the sports games? a few tweaks in gameplay, and new ream roster,,thats next years version

    and at full price,,every year

    in a galaxy far, far away,,darth vader is crying right now

    but, at least ,they didnt get star trek

  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Arkham, VAPosts: 10,910Member


    Originally posted by ktanner3

    Originally posted by lizardbones  

    Originally posted by ktanner3

    Originally posted by MikeB If they do, it looks like EA will be doing it. http://kotaku.com/ea-snags-exclusive-deal-to-make-star-wars-games-493178983 Commence head explosions? :) I just felt a tremour in the force. As if dozens of angry posters cried out loud and were suddenly silenced. ;)
    It doesn't say anything about MMOs though. Everybody knew that they would be making games, and everybody has overall been pretty happy with the Star Wars single player games, so there's no reason to think that EA is a poor choice to make a bunch of single player games based off of the SW franchise under Disney's direction.
    MMOs are just another category for game. When Disney says that EA is the exclusive maker of all Star Wars games that includes any MMOs that might be made.  I also have to disagree with your statement that everyone has overall been happy with the single player games. The Star Wars single player games have been very hit and miss.


    The press release doesn't mention anything about a new MMO being made. All of the subsidiary companies are known for a mix of hit and miss single player games (more hits than misses) and one MMO that was a pretty solid miss. It is far more likely that they are going to make a series of games that are not MMOs than make even one MMO. Especially considering that if they started right now, they probably wouldn't be able to get it out the door until the last movie released.

    ** ** **

    RTS games might be in there too. Several single player games and one RTS is the most likely scenario.

    I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  • superniceguysuperniceguy AnchorheadPosts: 2,278Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by LoverNoFighter
    Originally posted by ktanner3
    Originally posted by AzurePrower

    Not that I like EA. But finally SWG can die and their fans can shut up about it.


    It's like a million voices cried out at once and were suddenly silenced. Music to my ears.

    More like a couple dozen posters cried out at once and were suddenly silenced. If there had actually been a million the game would have never shut down. ;)

     Uhm, yes it would. Even 1 mill subs wouldn't be high enough for LA/SOE or whoever they are. They wanted WoW sub numbers.

    Greed > anything

    Yup. The day the shut down announcement came, the server populations were rising. SWG had 4 FULL servers then too, with a possible 5th on its way, which is more than what SWTOR is getting right now (although no one can transfer servers to get one FULL). They gave 6 months notice for closure showing that the game was still strong. If it was because there were few players it would have only had 1-2 months notice.

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