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which "free to play" game was worst scam for you?

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  • LivnthedreamLivnthedream Salt Lake City, UTPosts: 555Member
    Originally posted by Demmi77

    to be honest, this is the way i feel. I stick with league of legends , i buy a couple skins a month. I tried resubbing to swtor and scratched my head at what the game offered to subs vs cash shop vs sub + cash shop.

    nexon, pwe, all of them are just getting out of control. It's starting to just get ugly even with b2p games. You purchase a game and they have like 20 dlc's ready for you to throw out another 10$ a pop. I just want to buy a game that is complete, i'll pay the sub etc.. but the market is getting way to scary cause now we as gamers just don't know what we are getting.

    unfortunately there are no laws to protect us, so we shell out 59.99 on a game , and then in order to play the full game we have to buy a dlc and that is disgusting.

    or we buy the game, pay the sub and find out that the best features are in a microtransaction shop. As much as people rag on wow, they are the last of a dying breed of companies that you get what you pay for. It is really getting out of hand.

    This is what happens when the cost of creating games continues to skyrocket but every time they try an raise the price the public throws a tantrum and boycotts the "greedy" publishers.

  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Nevada, MOPosts: 2,732Member
    Originally posted by Squeak69

    *sigh* i just want to go back to P2P so i dont have to be worried aout being scammed anymore, i just want to pay my flat rate and get everything the game has with it, so i can play theg ame and if i dont enjoy playing it i can just stop, why is that so complicated, i like life simpole i like to know where my monthly stipend for gameing money is going not poke thrtough the cash shops going so do i have enough left in this month for all the things i really want, well no,

    yall want the truth i want to go back to P2P cause im a cheap person and evrytime i have to use my card online, i spend to much time thinking about it, i liked it when the transition of money between me and the devs was simpilar and easyier.

    last thin and im done, if the companies where not makeing more money with tis module then they where with P2P then they would not be useing it in mass like they are currently.

    There are those who would argue that being forced to pay rent to access a game you've already purchased is a scam.......

    I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  • ThaneThane berlinPosts: 2,230Member Uncommon

    tested quite a few f2p mmos now, and non of them has been scam.

     

    i usualy play em abit (FOR FREE... that means without spending money) and try to find out if i like em or not.

    for example when AOC went f2p, i played close to caps, then i noticed they want money for the high end content (it stopped being fp2 there bascially), and that's when i went on.

    TSW on the other hand (b2p) offers nearly 100% of the content for free. what you get is alot of cosmetical stuff, and they got some of my money here, since i play it for quite some time now - and i think it's just fgair giving some money back.

    GW2 is also a nice f2p game so far, close to reaching lvl cap yet, haven't found alot of stuff that "forced" me to buy anything.

    ToR was quite... shocking at first, but when i spend like 10€ extra, i could play it quite good... problem was elsewhere here.

    planetside2 actually offers EVERYTHING (but visuals) for free, when you spend enough time to earn your shit ingame.

    LoL, no mmo, but f2p, hence i mention it. totaly free to play. all you get for money is skins and more pages.

     

    still paying and playing wow here. with my guild. i basically just play one of the above (basically it's only TSW, LoL or GW2 atm) when i get bored or wanna play sth else. that's what those games excell in - in being around for free. without subs. when you want em.

     

    a few of those mmos would actually be good enough to become my maingame, but since i love my guild, i play with em... and they like WoW :)

    "I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"

  • iixviiiixiixviiiix GSPosts: 831Member Uncommon

    There are another scam in F2P like put they player (with good gears) in game to fish "whales".

    Or run P2P then after a year or half change it to F2P.

    I ready pass some of them so i have more caution with F2P game ,

    Because of that i wasn't fall in RuneOfMagic , when i saw pure stone and upgrade stone in mall , i know it will not end well.

     

    The mall price in nearly all F2P game are ridiculous high , they don't make it so everyone can get it (with reasonable price).

     

    Thought we can have some fun in F2P games without spend too much cash in them.

    my experience in F2P games are enjoy leveling and don't touch "end game" , stay away from PvP can save you alot.

     

     

  • AeliousAelious Portland, ORPosts: 2,849Member Uncommon
    I don't think it's a scam but I was put off when I noticed that some Aion cosmetics were rented for 30 days rather than bought.
  • QuirhidQuirhid TamperePosts: 5,969Member Common
    I've never been scammed by a F2P game. P2P is a different story...

    I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been -Wayne Gretzky

  • thecapitainethecapitaine West Chester, PAPosts: 402Member Uncommon
    None.  I've never been scammed by a game I didn't have to pay for.
  • evilastroevilastro EdinburghPosts: 4,270Member

    Runes of Magic was the biggest pay 2 win farce I had played. EQ2 and SWTOR both had terrible F2P models, but didnt really rip people off with an endgame lottery.

    I'm sure there were a lot worse asian F2P that I never bothered with that had more P2W than RoM though.

  • GruntyGrunty Fort Worth, TXPosts: 7,029Member Uncommon
    I've not put any money into them but Atlantica Online and Runes of Magic were the most obvious money grubbing games I've tried.
  • kmk123kmk123 Chiptown, CAPosts: 4Member
    Megaten online, the gambling/ lottery system for gear in the cash shop made me want to keep paying money over and over. I did spend quite a bit, over $200 but I stopped eventually. It wasn't a scam per se, unless you count not posting statistics for winning an item as a scam.
  • MagnetiaMagnetia SydneyPosts: 1,029Member Uncommon

    Not a huge scam but not enough free to play content - Pirate 101

    I friggen love the system but limiting me to the noob zone is a little harsh. The only thing that stopped me playing was the price for access. 

    Play for fun. Play to win. Play for perfection. Play with friends. Play in another world. Why do you play?

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAPosts: 22,441Member
    None. I have never paid a dime in playing F2P games.
  • Lovely_LalyLovely_Laly genevaPosts: 734Member

    thanks all for reply! =)

    before all I need to clear up: I don't blame company for scaming me, I should be born immune to any kind of scam on-line or in real life. I guess, unfortunately, it's not a case.
    I guess it's due to my low IQ and fact that nobody tested it before I started to play...

    same way I'm fully agree that if someone sold me 100% spoiled produt it's only because I'm blind and stupid.

    Same way if I got aggression from anyone it's only because I should never come to same way as this criminal, should not be born woman (in case of sexual aggression) etc.

    Hope we all got enough about me and we can start to discuss about f2p model again. =P

    I got some useful info about games to avoid in a future, thanks to share!

    Now to show how f2p can trap low IQ simple minded, like me, people, look

    http://fw.perfectworld.com/news/?p=723641

    try before buy, even if it's a game to avoid bad surprises.
    Worst surprises for me: Aion, GW2

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread PshPosts: 5,496Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Lovely_Laly

    thanks all for reply! =)

    before all I need to clear up: I don't blame company for scaming me, I should be born immune to any kind of scam on-line or in real life. I guess, unfortunately, it's not a case.
    I guess it's due to my low IQ and fact that nobody tested it before I started to play...

    same way I'm fully agree that if someone sold me 100% spoiled produt it's only because I'm blind and stupid.

    Same way if I got aggression from anyone it's only because I should never come to same way as this criminal, should not be born woman (in case of sexual aggression) etc.

    Hope we all got enough about me and we can start to discuss about f2p model again. =P

    I got some useful info about games to avoid in a future, thanks to share!

    Now to show how f2p can trap low IQ simple minded, like me, people, look

    http://fw.perfectworld.com/news/?p=723641

    Your link doesn't work for me.

  • Lovely_LalyLovely_Laly genevaPosts: 734Member

    and more about is here:

    http://fw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=411271


    now trust me, at my server I met several Barons, Vicecounts and even one Monarch.

    We can easily see it with title and/or marking on the right side of their names while in party with.

    For easy understanding:

    baron = 700 eur
    vice-count = 1000 eur
    monarch = 15'000 eur

    and it's just one example of one f2p, PWE, Forsaken Wold in one server only!

    P.S. I keep my woe and play for free. =D May be I have better IQ now?=D

    try before buy, even if it's a game to avoid bad surprises.
    Worst surprises for me: Aion, GW2

  • Lovely_LalyLovely_Laly genevaPosts: 734Member


    Originally posted by colddog04
    Originally posted by Lovely_Laly thanks all for reply! =) before all I need to clear up: I don't blame company for scaming me, I should be born immune to any kind of scam on-line or in real life. I guess, unfortunately, it's not a case. I guess it's due to my low IQ and fact that nobody tested it before I started to play... same way I'm fully agree that if someone sold me 100% spoiled produt it's only because I'm blind and stupid. Same way if I got aggression from anyone it's only because I should never come to same way as this criminal, should not be born woman (in case of sexual aggression) etc. Hope we all got enough about me and we can start to discuss about f2p model again. =P I got some useful info about games to avoid in a future, thanks to share! Now to show how f2p can trap low IQ simple minded, like me, people, look http://fw.perfectworld.com/news/?p=723641
    Your link doesn't work for me.

    not for me either, but it correct link..

    google for : forsaken world purchaser rewards
    choose: fw.perfectworld.com/news

    try before buy, even if it's a game to avoid bad surprises.
    Worst surprises for me: Aion, GW2

  • maplestonemaplestone Ottawa, ONPosts: 3,099Member
    Originally posted by colddog04

    The original poster chose to blow a lot of money on a game because at the time they thought it was the best use of their funds. Just because they changed their mind about the value of their expenditure, doesn't mean that they were incapable of determining what was valuable to them at the time.

    So you agree that it's a scam.  You just don't care.

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread PshPosts: 5,496Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by maplestone
    Originally posted by colddog04

    The original poster chose to blow a lot of money on a game because at the time they thought it was the best use of their funds. Just because they changed their mind about the value of their expenditure, doesn't mean that they were incapable of determining what was valuable to them at the time.

    So you agree that it's a scam.

    No, I believe that they were buying stuff that they wanted at the time. They got whatever it was they paid for (armor, gems, whatever). They later realized it was a decision they regretted.

     

    What if they had bought a boat and never used it and during the resale they lost $4,000? They are both purchases that the consumer believes are worth the money at the time. They think they'll love the boat/armor/gems/etc., but in the end, some people regret their purchases. Are boats a scam?

     

    People that can't afford to drop thousands on games shouldn't be playing games that ask people for thousands of dollars to stay competitive. It's not a scam to those that enjoy spending their money and being tops in those games.

  • maplestonemaplestone Ottawa, ONPosts: 3,099Member
    Originally posted by colddog04

    People that can't afford to drop thousands on games shouldn't be playing games that ask people for thousands of dollars to stay competitive.

    Then stop pushing it.  Stop being the problem.

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread PshPosts: 5,496Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by maplestone
    Originally posted by colddog04

    People that can't afford to drop thousands on games shouldn't be playing games that ask people for thousands of dollars to stay competitive.

    Then stop pushing it.  Stop being the problem.

    Pushing what? I've enjoyed all kinds of F2P games that don't require you to spend any money to remain competitive. I'm certainly not "pushing" for P2W. I never play them personally because I think they're not worth it at all.

     

    I'm not sure what I'm pushing.

  • TaishiFoxTaishiFox NottinghamPosts: 668Member Uncommon
    City of Heroes and Villians - Becasuse when it went free to play I couldn't even play my old characters and had to buy unlocks.  I was annoyed at this as most games that went free to play allow you to resume previous characters without paying for unlock features.  In my opinion, if you bought the game, you're entitled to being able to resume previous characters at least once the game goes free to play.  Whats worse is even though I did pay for these unlocks the game shut down within a year.

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  • OberholzerOberholzer Hasbrouck Heights, NJPosts: 498Member
    I see people here saying scammed by F2P or scammed by P2P, as far as I can tell people are paying for either of these payment models of their own free will, so while the value may or may not be there (that's really subjective) I don't see anyone getting truly scammed. People seem to use the word scam on here when they don't think something is worth what a company is charging or if they're sorry they paid for something.
  • LivnthedreamLivnthedream Salt Lake City, UTPosts: 555Member
    Originally posted by Lovely_Laly

    and more about is here:

    http://fw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=411271


    now trust me, at my server I met several Barons, Vicecounts and even one Monarch.

    We can easily see it with title and/or marking on the right side of their names while in party with.

    For easy understanding:

    baron = 700 eur
    vice-count = 1000 eur
    monarch = 15'000 eur

    and it's just one example of one f2p, PWE, Forsaken Wold in one server only!

    P.S. I keep my woe and play for free. =D May be I have better IQ now?=D

    So the players plunked down money? There is no p2w in Neverwinter.

  • maplestonemaplestone Ottawa, ONPosts: 3,099Member
    Originally posted by colddog04

    I'm not sure what I'm pushing.

    *prepares flamethrower* ... *pauses* ... *does a quick reality check*

    Doh.  My bad.  I'm embarassed to admit that I got you mixed up with someone else who has been more aggressively pushing cash shop games.

    ( I feel buyer's remorse is a telling symptom of scammy business models and don't agree with the sort of "let the buyer beware" view of the world, but I read your posts in the wrong context and so I think I read a nastier tone than you intended; sorry )

     

     

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread PshPosts: 5,496Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by maplestone
    Originally posted by colddog04

    I'm not sure what I'm pushing.

    *prepares flamethrower* ... *pauses* ... *does a quick reality check*

    Doh.  My bad.  I'm embarassed to admit that I got you mixed up with someone else who has been more aggressively pushing cash shop games.

    ( I feel buyer's remorse is a telling symptom of scammy business models and don't agree with the sort of "let the buyer beware" view of the world, but I read your posts in the wrong context and so I think I read a nastier tone than you intended; sorry )

    Honestly, my tone does occasionaly get... uncivilized. So I wouldn't feel too bad about that.

     

    I do understand the sympathetic sentiment when faced with these stories about how someone spent thousands of dollars on one of these P2W games and they didn't make rent or lost their car or something. That is a really unfortunate situation. You can only hope that people learn from their mistakes like the OP did.

     

    I think... see, there is another view that I think should be considered about these P2W games. People don't tend to sympathise with the customers that can afford paying large sums of money to these P2W games and have fun doing it. That is their form of entertainment. No matter how silly it seems to me, there are people that can afford it and find it enjoyable. I don't think there is anything wrong with games being designed around and played by these people.

     

    I guess it comes down to how they are advertised vs what they are. I know they are made with big spenders in mind, but that's only because I'm pretty well versed in MMORPG. I can definitely see how the advertising doesn't match the product in the case of games like RoM. F2P this, F2P that. In the end, they are designed from the ground up as Palot2W. I can definitely see how that seems scammy. On the other hand, in my opinion the choice is still in the hands of the consumer.

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