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  • JeroKaneJeroKane OsloPosts: 5,353Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ragz45
    Originally posted by mightyfc
    thats the amount of rough you can convert to ad per day, all rewards are rough

    You need to use the auction house more often.  I have about 3mil AD atm.

     What level are you and what did you sell?

    I mean.... I can make a couple million AD within 2 days if I want to. Just buy three 10-pack keys from the Zen store and put them on AH for 80k per key.

    Other than that.... I would call bull! Unless you are already level60 and able to farm purple gear. As that's about the only ingame acquirable items that is worth a darn on the AH atm.

    All the green and blue gear are worth crap, as the AH is litterly flooded with them.

    You can kit your character out in full lvl24-26 blue gear for less than 20k AD.

  • koboldfodderkoboldfodder Danbury, DEPosts: 390Member Uncommon

    Though I have not played one second of the game, I would assume that the way to actually "play" the game is to plow ahead to max level THEN start working on your gear.  I mean, it's a basic themepark with level/loot....why waste any time on level 30 items when you will just get something better in a few levels.

     

    That's pretty much the way every single themepark/level/loot game is played....

  • RobokappRobokapp Dublin, OHPosts: 5,206Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by JeroKane

    That's how F2P games work and why I always loathed them.

    They sucker you in with easy normal and comfortable gameplay like you used to with P2P games.

    Then after some levels you get hit with the WTF hammer and it's "Pay Up with real cash!" time.

    f2p will save the industry from the evils of...f2p will save the industry. The Great Leader said so. 

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  • AethaerynAethaeryn Kitchener, ONPosts: 1,974Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by mightyfc

    holy shit just reached 30 and just the costs from removing /attaching gemsso far is bringing me on my knees

    its like 3-4k  Ad to remove a rank 1 gem, and you can get 10k ad per day... had a r3 gem that costed me 9k!! to remove when i switched gear, 1 day for 1 gem... what ? ive already used up almost 650k ad (now take that and divide by 10k per day) on various shit

     

    and no fuckin ad from quests yet just gold wich is of little to no use , just a few pots and shit, some worthless gear that ull find better before you can use anyhow

     

    if you dont buy your AD that is

     

    epic fail imminent

    I think for a casual player maybe it won't be so bad. . You seem to have leveled pretty quickly and will need to use more AD at a faster rate than someone who plays less often.   Maybe I am wrong and a casual player would get less AD.  It seems to me that they ahve limited the daily conversion so people who play very hard core might have to pay more.  

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  • waynejr2waynejr2 West Toluca Lake, CAPosts: 4,476Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Shadowguy64

    I don't have sound at work to be certain, but I think this video is appropriate here:

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgxzjrodNvI

     This could be appropriate too.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7HJH0IH3dc

  • besteverbestever prescott, AZPosts: 732Member
    Originally posted by mightyfc
    thats the amount of rough you can convert to ad per day, all rewards are rough

    Its not 10k its 24k rough AD into AD. I'm not sure were people are seeing this but its 24k a day.

  • besteverbestever prescott, AZPosts: 732Member
    Originally posted by mightyfc
    Originally posted by Fendel84M
    AD isn't bought with real money. So it's not asking you to pay real money.

    no you buy zen for real money wich you use to buy AD with..

    Thats if you can get a player to even buy it. It's pretty high price right now. Its not like you can just buy zen then exchange it for AD you have to put it on the AH. 

  • sibs4455sibs4455 manchesterPosts: 357Member

    Playing a level 39 cleric, I just leave the talisman in the item when i sell it.

    As to buying any stuff of the ah, well there is no need too for the game is so easy, no deaths up to now and breezed through all content.

  • besteverbestever prescott, AZPosts: 732Member
    Originally posted by mightyfc
    Originally posted by Grinnz

    level 30 myself, and still have over 500k AD from my GON founders pack( only spent AD to speed up crafting)....have level 2-3 gems in every item nearly....

    I don't bother unslotting gems, since they drop so often...take kits with you nearly every resource node carries runes. Don't know why you would spend AD on much of anything other than speeding stuff up oh and ID scrolls...

     

    i get what you are saying, but when using +4-+5 gems you kinda want to remove em

     

    and looking at the progression it seems r2-3 is for lvl 25ish and r4 30+, its getting expensive real fast and you got no option but to buy with real money to keep up if you wanna have a fine tuned toon

    Not true. Just combine the lower ones into the better ones. Take four level +1 and turn them into a level +2. Then you can take four +2's and turn them into a +3. Its seems to me that you just want it now and complain its expensive when its not just play the game and get the things you need. It will take time but it you want it faster then pay. Just hold on to the low end stones and fuse them into the better ones, thats what I do.

    I have 450k AD started with 650k. I've sold stuff to get back up to 650k. The only thing I've spent money on is bag space and bank space.

  • strangiato2112strangiato2112 Richmond, VAPosts: 1,538Member Common

    I would imagine the good foundry designers will make decent ADs.

    My philosophy is to tip if its a good foundry AND I am doing the daily.  Im getting 1k, i can toss out 50.  Im sure Im not the only one that does this.

  • PWN_FACEPWN_FACE SeoulPosts: 670Member
    Originally posted by JeroKane

    ... you get hit with the WTF hammer ....

    Hilarious.

     

    I want to have a chance to use this expression.

  • BoldynBoldyn PartillePosts: 265Member
    Originally posted by JeroKane

    Unless you enjoy spending 30 minutes and a ton of health pots per boss encounter. lol.

    This mmo has challenging gameplay? Ewww, we don't want that now do we...

  • GrailerGrailer HamiltonPosts: 876Member Uncommon
    This game makes me miss playing RIFT .
  • winterwinter El Paso, TXPosts: 2,276Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by mightyfc
    Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
    Originally posted by mightyfc

    holy shit just reached 30 and just the costs from removing /attaching gemsso far is bringing me on my knees

    its like 3-4k  Ad to remove a rank 1 gem, and you can get 10k ad per day... had a r3 gem that costed me 9k!! to remove when i switched gear, 1 day for 1 gem... what ? ive already used up almost 650k ad (now take that and divide by 10k per day) on various shit

     

    and no fuckin ad from quests yet just gold wich is of little to no use , just a few pots and shit, some worthless gear that ull find better before you can use anyhow

     

    if you dont buy your AD that is

     

    epic fail imminent

     So what you're saying is because the AD isn't flowing like a river the developers are greedy? Stop wasting all your AD on so much random junk. Save the AD for better things. Have some self-control on your ingame wallet. You'd probably complain if gold wasn't dropping fast enough to pay for every last piece of equipment you needed.

     You need to learn that you'll have to make choices with the money you're getting. If you spend 10k a day and you only get 10k a day who's fault is it that you wasted it all on removing 1 gem from your gear? 

     

    jesus lord christ and his 7 apostles... .. did you play ?, did you bother to fuse gems ?

     

    all im saying is that its fuckin epic expensive , bags are just as bad if not worse, for what other reason than greed is stuff like this really fuckin expnsive .. its a vital gameplay mechanic, having 2 decent gems will give you as much extra stats as 4 pieces of gear....

    the slots start to show up at 18+ basicly you cant afford to move 1 gem if you havent bought a starter kit or ad before that

     

     

    its an obvious greed move.. beyond obvious, if you cant see that im just sorry for you, the big companys already own your mind.

     

     Ummm maybe its to pay the programmers, artist, and developers that have worked on this game for the last 4 years and contibue to do so? nah they all work for free right, maybe its to keep the game online line so people lie you can download and play it for free, nah. Eveyone knows MMO's are made for pennies, just for your entertainment.

       Seroiusly  some people put no thought at all into their post or just live to bitch and moan. I'll take my ban now and spend the time away from MMORPG.com playing

  • winterwinter El Paso, TXPosts: 2,276Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by bestever
    Originally posted by mightyfc
    Originally posted by Grinnz

    level 30 myself, and still have over 500k AD from my GON founders pack( only spent AD to speed up crafting)....have level 2-3 gems in every item nearly....

    I don't bother unslotting gems, since they drop so often...take kits with you nearly every resource node carries runes. Don't know why you would spend AD on much of anything other than speeding stuff up oh and ID scrolls...

     

    i get what you are saying, but when using +4-+5 gems you kinda want to remove em

     

    and looking at the progression it seems r2-3 is for lvl 25ish and r4 30+, its getting expensive real fast and you got no option but to buy with real money to keep up if you wanna have a fine tuned toon

    Not true. Just combine the lower ones into the better ones. Take four level +1 and turn them into a level +2. Then you can take four +2's and turn them into a +3. Its seems to me that you just want it now and complain its expensive when its not just play the game and get the things you need. It will take time but it you want it faster then pay. Just hold on to the low end stones and fuse them into the better ones, thats what I do.

    I have 450k AD started with 650k. I've sold stuff to get back up to 650k. The only thing I've spent money on is bag space and bank space.

     true this. some people just don't take the time to THINK things through and the whole gotta have it now so i can finish the gme in 2 weeks mentality is what empowers the cash shops.  But then its always easier to QQ and say the developers are greedy bastrads then actually think things through and maybe control ones own impulse spending. The entitlement generation never takes any blame for thier actions its always someone elses fault.

  • dansimonsdansimons Princeton, WIPosts: 5Member Common
    Originally posted by Korlos
    Originally posted by mightyfc

    holy shit just reached 30 and just the costs from removing /attaching gemsso far is bringing me on my knees

    its like 3-4k  Ad to remove a rank 1 gem, and you can get 10k ad per day... had a r3 gem that costed me 9k!! to remove when i switched gear, 1 day for 1 gem... what ? ive already used up almost 650k ad (now take that and divide by 10k per day) on various shit

     

    and no fuckin ad from quests yet just gold wich is of little to no use , just a few pots and shit, some worthless gear that ull find better before you can use anyhow

     

    if you dont buy your AD that is

     

    epic fail imminent

    You don't have to remove them just put the better one in and it will destroy the old one.

    You can refine up to 24,000 Rough Astral diamond per day.

    Selling things on the auction house is a good way to earn refined Astral Diamonds.

    They "can" be purchased with real money but it's not required. 

    Other than that, the game is still new and costs may be tweaked if they are too high. 

    Relax

    Korlos, how do you sell things at the auction house?  I have only so far seen optioons to buy items, not sell anything.

  • JyiigaJyiiga Seneca, SCPosts: 1,041Member Uncommon
    I'm level 49 and I still have my starting 600k + several thousand more. I saw no reason at all to socket anything until cap. So I have upgraded and saved mine until I have gear that will last more than 2 lvls. 
  • dmm02dmm02 Springfield, MOPosts: 23Member
    Originally posted by Jyiiga
    I'm level 49 and I still have my starting 600k + several thousand more. I saw no reason at all to socket anything until cap. So I have upgraded and saved mine until I have gear that will last more than 2 lvls. 

    this i have yet to socket anything either i just save em and fuse them. 38 rogue here. Honestly if something is hard skip it there is plenty of easy content here no need to waste money on gear u are going to toss in a few

  • CernanCernan Charlotte, NCPosts: 359Member
    I'm only level 22, but about all my gear has sockets now.  I've seen no need to constantly use up all my gems, especially trying to combine them  to +3 and +4.  I started fusing some after realizing how fast I change gear I decided to use only +1 on greens or maybe +2 enchant on blues.  Just like everyone else admits, gear drops so easily.  Why waste good enchants when you are just going to switch gear so much.  That's your own fault.  Look at the other people posting about being 40+.  You level way to fast to constantly be switching out gems.   Others gave you tips.  Buy kits, explore and use them all up.  You should easily find the enchants.  Don't waste a +4 enchant on a level 30 item you will replace in 24-48 hours.
  • JeroKaneJeroKane OsloPosts: 5,353Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Boldyn
    Originally posted by JeroKane

    Unless you enjoy spending 30 minutes and a ton of health pots per boss encounter. lol.

    This mmo has challenging gameplay? Ewww, we don't want that now do we...

     If gimping yourself on purpose is called challenging gameplay these days and beating onto a mob senselessly for over 30 minutes, just because you have gimped gear and stats is called challenging gameplay these days.

    People have come to seriously lowered standards these days about what challenging gameplay is. /Shrug

  • JeroKaneJeroKane OsloPosts: 5,353Member Uncommon

    Here is the latest revalation: http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?181661-Want-Enchantment-Effects-Get-out-your-wallet

    If people still cannot believe that it's PWE pulling the strings and not Cryptic. Then naivity has reached a new high.

  • MadDemon64MadDemon64 Maplewood, NJPosts: 1,099Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by JeroKane

    Here is the latest revalation: http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?181661-Want-Enchantment-Effects-Get-out-your-wallet

    If people still cannot believe that it's PWE pulling the strings and not Cryptic. Then naivity has reached a new high.

    Your argument is kinda negated by all the people claiming that getting a lot of AD makes this possible without spending any money.  Sure it will take time, but all MMOs have something that requires time to get, and since it is free, you don't exactly have to be paying a subscription to play to get the AD.

    Is it annoying that the prices are high?  Yes.  But should people really be complaining about it since there are viable alternatives to spending money that only take a few days to get the equivalent?  No.  Now if the alternative took an insanely long amount of time or if there was no alternative, I would understand the complaints, but right now, all I see is just shallow people complaining that they can't get instant gratification in a game that is free to download and free to play, but still needs money to maintain, develop, and improve.  Want to complain about something, go back in time, play Allods when their cash shop was implemented, and complain about that.

    Since when is Tuesday a direction?

  • JeroKaneJeroKane OsloPosts: 5,353Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by MadDemon64
    Originally posted by JeroKane

    Here is the latest revalation: http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?181661-Want-Enchantment-Effects-Get-out-your-wallet

    If people still cannot believe that it's PWE pulling the strings and not Cryptic. Then naivity has reached a new high.

    Your argument is kinda negated by all the people claiming that getting a lot of AD makes this possible without spending any money.  Sure it will take time, but all MMOs have something that requires time to get, and since it is free, you don't exactly have to be paying a subscription to play to get the AD.

    Is it annoying that the prices are high?  Yes.  But should people really be complaining about it since there are viable alternatives to spending money that only take a few days to get the equivalent?  No.  Now if the alternative took an insanely long amount of time or if there was no alternative, I would understand the complaints, but right now, all I see is just shallow people complaining that they can't get instant gratification in a game that is free to download and free to play, but still needs money to maintain, develop, and improve.  Want to complain about something, go back in time, play Allods when their cash shop was implemented, and complain about that.

     LOL! Have you even read through this topic and seen people's calculations and "real money" costs?

    PWE is really not that far off anymore compared to gPotato when it comes to money grabs.

    If you think that 1% success rate is "reasonable".... I just don't know what to say.

    But whatever.

  • moosecatlolmoosecatlol Boring, TXPosts: 1,172Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by mightyfc

    holy shit just reached 30 and just the costs from removing /attaching gemsso far is bringing me on my knees

    its like 3-4k  Ad to remove a rank 1 gem, and you can get 10k ad per day... had a r3 gem that costed me 9k!! to remove when i switched gear, 1 day for 1 gem... what ? ive already used up almost 650k ad (now take that and divide by 10k per day) on various shit

     

    and no fuckin ad from quests yet just gold wich is of little to no use , just a few pots and shit, some worthless gear that ull find better before you can use anyhow

     

    if you dont buy your AD that is

     

    epic fail imminent

    Enchanting gear does not cost astral diamonds, removing enchants does. You never remove enchants while leveling, you simply sell the gear and equip higher level gear.

    However if greed doesn't kill the game, I'm willing to bet developer incompetence will.

    Oh well, killing time till Blade & Soul reaches North America.

  • cybertruckercybertrucker Pensacola, FLPosts: 1,119Member

    Ok first off. I've only played to level 5 so I don't have much Experiance at all with this game. But I must say, by reading the OP and responses it sounds to me more along the lines that the OP and several others honestly are just impatient. In many of the P2P games I have played it takes time to get geared up. Ok there are some games like WOW that throws the buckets of gear at you.  However the game hasn't even officially launched yet, its still in Open beta and we have people bitching and whining that in order for them to have gear fast they have to pay money. I mean seriously. Nahh the devs don't sound greedy.  Alot of players just sound like spoiled brats that have everything handed to them.

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