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Respeccing your character.

moosecatlolmoosecatlol Boring, TXPosts: 1,171Member Uncommon

With free to pay eclipsing all other payment models in the industry in terms of volume. Often times sacrificing many conveniences that would've been considered a normal feature for any RPG. This can include the respecialization of your characters, bag space, character slots, mounts, fast travel, or even the worst skills.

So lets say you made a game and you absolutely had to have a real money price on respeccing, what would you price the respec cost?

 

 

*edit* I could've kept going, because I know of some games that charge upwards of $30.00 to respec one character. However I would like to think none of you are that horrible.

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  • FusionFusion VaasaPosts: 1,391Member Uncommon

    buck to three 1-3$

    I think anything above 3$/€ is just begging for a punch in the face and being labeled as greedy (tho 99% of the MMO companies are these days)

    This genre in no longer FROM gamers to gamers, it's from investors to investors.

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  • BarrikorBarrikor Phoenix, AZPosts: 316Member

    When someone respecs a character, they'll probably be needing new gear, probably requiring another trip to the cash-shop.

    An evil game developer would keep it free, and make it easy to do by accident.

  • RobokappRobokapp Dublin, OHPosts: 5,205Member Uncommon

    I voted 5-10.

     

    because it completely redefines your character. its the gameplay equivalent of a character re-customization which I think in wow costs 10.

     

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  • MetanolMetanol TamperePosts: 247Member Uncommon
    I actually prefer no respeccing at all, but if there must be a respec option, then it better be done through rare materials and ingame currency, not the good old american dollar. :)

    We?re all dead, just say it.

  • PieRadPieRad Odense MPosts: 1,108Member
    It's sad that we're at a point in history where the gaming community just bend over and take it up the ... repeatedly.

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  • timtracktimtrack StockholmPosts: 414Member Uncommon

    One of those things that should never be charged real money for i think. If the game is built around specs they should be available through gameplay alone, not cash. Most games give you spec-options at level 10 or below, and by then you still have nowhere near enough knowledge to make proper decisions. It might, at the time, sound good with "+1% crit", but later in the game you realize that you are leaning towards a DoT-oriented gameplay. You are then stuck with extra crit when there were other options more suited to your prefered playstyle. Re-speccing is not a "convenience" in my book, it's a core feature (depends on game of course). It should be encouraged, not milked.

     

    Why most games make it a money-sink in the first place is very "matrix-style". Go to a "trainer" and cash up, and he wipes your memory and implants new ones. I'd really like to see some innovation in this area right about soon.

  • AdamantineAdamantine NowherePosts: 3,514Member

    Ugh.

    Are you serious ?!?

    I tolerate the "freemium" model of Vanguard simply because, as a subscriber, I get some of these "points" as well and can get the stuff other people pay for. Those things I really need, anyway.

    And about respeccing, people shouldnt ever feel the need to respec at all in your game. Thats usually done to fix a problem with balancing. I heard in WoW its even done because people need to switch what role they play in a party. Thats kind of stupid, but whatever.

     

  • rockin_uforockin_ufo St. Paul, MNPosts: 377Member Uncommon
    Wouldn't charge at all...what a pointless money grudging thing to charge for. I think Guild Wars 1 was really the only MMO to get respeccing right..

    Whenever i step outside, somebody claims to see the light
    It seems to me that all of us have lost our patience.
    'cause everyone thinks they're right,
    And nobody thinks that there just might
    Be more than one road to our final destination--

  • geelgeel GroningenPosts: 90Member
    All these horrible threads are so depressing. Bring back p2p puhlease!
  • moosecatlolmoosecatlol Boring, TXPosts: 1,171Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Robokapp

    I voted 5-10.

     

    because it completely redefines your character. its the gameplay equivalent of a character re-customization which I think in wow costs 10.

     

    That's an interesting observation, as actually respeccing in WoW costs $0.09 according to gold -> USD exchange rate. Assuming that respecs are still capped at 50g.(I haven't played since Wrath)

    Maybe I should've clarified by stating a respec for a characters talents/traits/feats/skills/attributes whatever you call them in whatever game you would apply this to. Not a respec in the sense of a new character class.

    Also I agree that Guild Wars has the best respec system of any game.

  • RobokappRobokapp Dublin, OHPosts: 5,205Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by moosecatlol
    Originally posted by Robokapp

    I voted 5-10.

     

    because it completely redefines your character. its the gameplay equivalent of a character re-customization which I think in wow costs 10.

     

    That's an interesting observation, as actually respeccing in WoW costs $0.09 according to gold -> USD exchange rate. Assuming that respecs are still capped at 50g.(I haven't played since Wrath)

    Maybe I should've clarified by stating a respec for a characters talents/traits/feats/skills/attributes whatever you call them in whatever game you would apply this to. Not a respec in the sense of a new character class.

    Also I agree that Guild Wars has the best respec system of any game.

    I understood what you meant but I also made the following assumption:

     

    in a P2P game respeccing comes "with the game".

    in a f2p game respeccing is one of the features that does not 'come with the game".

     

    which is ... another way to approach the original post. right ? because otherwise the question would make no sense, the answer would be 'zero'.

     

    so let's look at the respec feature. it's gameplay relevant equivalent (in the f2p realm) of a non-gameplay feature in the p2p realm. naturally i cant compare it with the exact counterpart because it 'comes with the game'. so i compared a character redefinition that has functionality with one that has aestetics.

     

    as most players will claim functionality is more important than aestetics, I think the comparison favors f2p. basically comparing a huge apple to a tiny orange. The tiny orange costs $10 so I'm assuming the huge apple should cost at least $10 as well.

     

    that was my analogy. ho much would wow charge for you to turn a tank into a healer ? if it's a druid or paladin...0.09 like you say. what if it's a warrior ? if the feature is ever offered I guarantee it'll be more than $10. so at this general level of approach, looking at a f2p, because the feature is premium, I claim it makes no difference if the class in question is a hybrid or not. the cost would be the same...since the same transformation occurs.

     

    will a f2p charge more to class-change than to respec? probably but that's a different topic and one in which we're comparing two non-real speculations.

     

    F2P is notorious for charging for aestetics and for game-defining features. Not necesarily p2w but convenience. a respec is a very high convenience feature. so you can expect to see at least $10.

     

    how much i think it's worth ? 5. how much they'll probably charge? 15. average...10. :D

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  • waynejr2waynejr2 West Toluca Lake, CAPosts: 4,473Member Uncommon
    City of heroes had a group mission that if completed would allow you to respect your character.
  • VrikaVrika FinlandPosts: 2,578Member Uncommon

    I think it depends on how often respeccing would be needed.

    If the game is built so that you want to respec maybe once or twice during your entire time playing it, then it's ok to charge a lot of money for respeccing. But if respeccing is something you'll want to do regularly, then there should be in-game alternative that costs no real money.

  • waynejr2waynejr2 West Toluca Lake, CAPosts: 4,473Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Vrika

    I think it depends on how often respeccing would be needed.

    If the game is built so that you want to respec maybe once or twice during your entire time playing it, then it's ok to charge a lot of money for respeccing. But if respeccing is something you'll want to do regularly, then there should be in-game alternative that costs no real money.

     Devs can't control your wanting.  If you want a raid build and a pvp build and need to change it depending on your mood, then I say that is a fine situation for charging.  Now, if bug fixes and nerfs change a class or some abilities a free respec would be good.  CoH sometimes gave out free respecs.  IIRC, CoH also gave a respec every 9  - 12 months as part of the vet rewards.

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