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The only "freedom" they removed was the ability for people to kill others in n00b areas. The VAST majority of NPC city combat in DF1 was developed characters in griefer guilds killing n00bs. Would I prefer an alignment system and guards over safezones? Sure. But it is better than the broken war dec system from DF1.
Also, you FINALLY have the "freedom" to roll more than 2 characters types and still be effective in PvP.
Here are all the viable builds in DF1:
1) Mage hybrid
2) Destroyer
Here are the viable ARCHTYPES in DFUW (Note that each archtype has 2 sub-roles, and will eventually have 4):
1) STR Warrior
2) Dex Warrior
3) STR Skirm
4) DEX Skirm
5) STR Primalist
6) WIS Primalist
7) INT Elementalist
So that is a total of 14 builds when you count sub-roles, and there will be at least 28 builds when the other sub-roles are release. Jeez, I'd call that player freedom.
As for the "themepark" accusation, you couldn't be more wrong. There is NO set path before players. Your progression is MUCH more dynamic and varied than it was in DF1.
Here is progression in DF1:
1) AFK macro sprint, swimming, jumpinh, crouch walking, resource nodes, rest, heal self, transfers, buff spells
2) Get an r0 weapon and bang on some bugged mobs
3) Get an r0 staff and cast on some bugged mobs
4) Get an r0 bow and shoot at some bugged mobs
5) AFK macro on your buddies
WHOA! That is REALLLY diverse and interesting.
Let's take a look at DFUW:
1) Complete some n00b feats in the safezones
2) Pick out what type of boosters, stats and skill you want to level first
3) Go harvest
4) Refine materials and craft some armor sets
5) Go to some more nearby mob spawns
6) Salvage loot and craft some more gear
7) Advance your skills and stats more depending on what build you want
8) Explore around and find some new spawns with different feats
9) Bind at a chaos stone to get some good nearby feats
10) Group up with some random guys at a mob spawn to help boost the spawn rate (This type of SANDBOX interaction would NEVER happen in DF1)
11) Tackle some harder spawns with a group
12) Spend more of your prowess
13) Explore more to find new feats to complete
14) Etc.
In the first 2 weeks of DFUW I have gone ALL OVER the world in search of good feats. I have grouped up with random unclanned n00bs at centaur spawns, groups from large clans at air elementals, solo players who were pushed out of a spawn by a bigger group.
I've had more unstructured player interaction in DFUW than most of my time in DF1.
I dunno, but I will take the freedom of DFUW over the "freedom" of DF1 any day.
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That's if you're a warrior. Too many warriors in the game.
Also, people who have a "life" do not have the time to grind out 50k by this time. Can't survive on a paper route. :P
what uzik said.
i can't imagine anyone other than a griefer thinking UW is a downgrade to DF1. after playing for 1 week in UW i KNEW i'd be playing for at least 3 months. i cant say that about the original. it's not perfect (it's not even close) but its a vast improvement and it shows the game's heading in the right path at least for now.
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For me - it's the same game - with one huge difference. The grind and PvP are closely connected.
You can't grind in some hidden place - when you want to progress, you need to risk going to the spawn when hundreds of other players also want to go. It means that there is much more fair PvP than there was in DF1.
Some people can't stand it - they can't max their char and only later go PvP, as they got used to do in DF1.
DF1 was layouted with a possibility to become a sandbox. The downgraded version is heading towards the themepark.
It was just possible to build the prowess system right into DF1. To create the promised armor speciaization system along with the promised prestige title system to preserve the sandbox layout of the game.
In the downgraded DF UW version we have now less potential for freedom and diversity. Remember the promised different ammunition (arrows) for bows and diffrent bow types ( speculation on crossbows). They wouldn't make any sense now in the downgraded version.
DF1 wasn't by far a complete game but the foundation to become a rich sandbox MMORPG was there. The downgraded DF:UW offers a big arena for guild PvP and everything else is second thought and of of no importance.
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What themepark?
Just because you can`t exploit and macro your char like in DF1, doesn`t make DFUW a themepark. I don`t don`t like the hidden feats from NPC killing, but it doesn`t break the game. I only means I level slower and will need a few more weeks to get pvp viable. The macroing in DF1 broke that game quite fast.
Here is progression in DF1:
1) AFK macro sprint, swimming, jumpinh, crouch walking, resource nodes, rest, heal self, transfers, buff spells
2) Get an r0 weapon and bang on some bugged mobs
3) Get an r0 staff and cast on some bugged mobs
4) Get an r0 bow and shoot at some bugged mobs
5) AFK macro on your alt.
This is the thing YOU find so perfect and call freedom. The bunnyjumping clone warriorarchercraftermage.
And why do you care if the starter citys are safezone if you played DF1? The starter citys in DF1 was empty and dead. No one except me lived in The four Alfar citys in DF1, so you can just pretend the starter citys in DFUW are empty. Why would an awesome, superduper pvper like you want to hang around starter citys anyway?
You can be a robewearing warrior badass monk. Just level the right atributes, and you can be what you want. Here is a robewearing archer badass monk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7vaGpevrcg
No one likes the GUI in DFUW, but that doesn`t stop us from playing. Get yoursef a pair of glasses if you can`t read the small text.
DFUW is allready far better than DF1, and it will only get better.
I don't think that needed to be pointed out...