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  • gylnnegylnne South Hutchinson, KSPosts: 320Member
    Originally posted by chaintm

    Warned you guys about all the spam and yet it seems on your thread in the kickstarted your offended by it? Spam gets you one thing, negative responses.

     

    http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/spam-and-kickstarter-how-fans-of-camelot-unchained-made-sure-the-press-woul

    Hmm you mean this guy who likes to put down people?

     

    http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/general-discussion-30/ben-kuchera-starts-twitter-smear-campagin-against--576873/

  • TuktzTuktz Atlanta, GAPosts: 299Member
    Haha, oh yeah the KS is really hurtin... NOT, LOL

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  • TimothyTierlessTimothyTierless Columnist M, ORPosts: 2,163Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by Doozerglue

    Originally posted by Vutar OP, thanks for the publicity. Keep up the good work!
    Honestly, I thought this too.  This post smells of Mark Jacobs and so did the article by Ben Kuchera  You can filter your email down to nothing if you choose.  But hey, we're all role players and have trained our brains to believe the fantasy.

    To be honest, I wont touch another Mark Jacobs project.   I think he'd make a good Ring Master or Illusionist... I'd donate if he'd just go away.   I just feel bad for the average Schmo's that put their hard earned money into something that's not going to be remotely close to what's being promised.


    Trust me, I wish it was some secret plot. When I read that email and saw the link to Rambo Unicorn I got physically il. I never imagined something like that would happen. I felt terrible and instantly sent an apology to the writer.

  • tauraktaurak rock cave, WVPosts: 174Member

    Ben Kuchera is a hot headed little twit, that has no credability in the gaming world anyways.

    I wish I had his e-mail, I'd spam it with ghey porn subscriptions.

  • eye_meye_m Notta Chance, ABPosts: 3,133Member Uncommon

    I have to admit, that I am sick of the CU threads that keep getting made about the exact same thing. It reminds me of a long trip with children that keep saying "are we there yet?"  I'm not planning on buying the game, it just doesn't interest me, so it's not like they've lost a potential backer or sale but I am asking myself now "if this game make's its KS goal, are we going to be constantly flooded with spam until it finally releases? Do I honestly want the KS to succeed at all and have to put up with the spam for years to come?"

     

    So I think it would be great if the fans kept the spam to a minimum and the game made it's KS.

    All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

    I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.

    I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.

  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by eyelolled

    I have to admit, that I am sick of the CU threads that keep getting made about the exact same thing. It reminds me of a long trip with children that keep saying "are we there yet?"  I'm not planning on buying the game, it just doesn't interest me, so it's not like they've lost a potential backer or sale but I am asking myself now "if this game make's its KS goal, are we going to be constantly flooded with spam until it finally releases? Do I honestly want the KS to succeed at all and have to put up with the spam for years to come?"

     

    So I think it would be great if the fans kept the spam to a minimum and the game made it's KS.

    at least most are in the CU forums.. would be great though for people with no interest in a game if they could block all threads from that games forum from showing up in recent forum activity

     

    nice new avatar:)

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • eye_meye_m Notta Chance, ABPosts: 3,133Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by eyelolled

    I have to admit, that I am sick of the CU threads that keep getting made about the exact same thing. It reminds me of a long trip with children that keep saying "are we there yet?"  I'm not planning on buying the game, it just doesn't interest me, so it's not like they've lost a potential backer or sale but I am asking myself now "if this game make's its KS goal, are we going to be constantly flooded with spam until it finally releases? Do I honestly want the KS to succeed at all and have to put up with the spam for years to come?"

     

    So I think it would be great if the fans kept the spam to a minimum and the game made it's KS.

    at least most are in the CU forums.. would be great though for people with no interest in a game if they could block all threads from that games forum from showing up in recent forum activity

     

    nice new avatar:)

    yeah, my problem is I watch the recent activity list and tend to read on most all games. So when I open a thread to find that it's just a post that should have been put in the kickstarter thread the site made for them I have to shake my head.  I'm sure it's a great thing for all the trolls though, gives them lots to do!  lol

     

    and thanks  :)

    All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

    I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.

    I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.

  • ZinzanZinzan NorthPosts: 1,351Member
    The terrible spam today has made me seriously consider cancelling my pledge, I'm not sure i want 2 years on the closed forums with these type of people.

    Expresso gave me a Hearthstone beta key.....I'm so happy :)

  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by eyelolled
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by eyelolled

    I have to admit, that I am sick of the CU threads that keep getting made about the exact same thing. It reminds me of a long trip with children that keep saying "are we there yet?"  I'm not planning on buying the game, it just doesn't interest me, so it's not like they've lost a potential backer or sale but I am asking myself now "if this game make's its KS goal, are we going to be constantly flooded with spam until it finally releases? Do I honestly want the KS to succeed at all and have to put up with the spam for years to come?"

     

    So I think it would be great if the fans kept the spam to a minimum and the game made it's KS.

    at least most are in the CU forums.. would be great though for people with no interest in a game if they could block all threads from that games forum from showing up in recent forum activity

     

    nice new avatar:)

    yeah, my problem is I watch the recent activity list and tend to read on most all games. So when I open a thread to find that it's just a post that should have been put in the kickstarter thread the site made for them I have to shake my head.  I'm sure it's a great thing for all the trolls though, gives them lots to do!  lol

     

    and thanks  :)

    i think a LOT of posters on this site watch the recent activity as many play many differn't games and like to read about a lot of them.. but obviously there is going to be some you have no interest in and wish they would dissapear into a black hole and it just would be nice to have that option for people that want it:P

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by Zinzan
    The terrible spam today has made me seriously consider cancelling my pledge, I'm not sure i want 2 years on the closed forums with these type of people.

    this is a public forum with complete anonymity.. it happens with all games.. swtor, gw2, darkfall, wow doesn't matter couple annoying folks shouldn't swayed your decisions on a game good or bad..

    just wait till TESO gets to launch time forums will be flooded with TESO.. wait for wildstar to get close same thing.. and so on and so on

     

     

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • TaldierTaldier Camp Hill, PAPosts: 235Member
    Originally posted by Zinzan
    The terrible spam today has made me seriously consider cancelling my pledge, I'm not sure i want 2 years on the closed forums with these type of people.

    If you dont realize that people are going to be more hyped up during the last 24 hours of a kickstarter campaign than they would be at any other time except for probably the week before launch....

  • eye_meye_m Notta Chance, ABPosts: 3,133Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by eyelolled
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by eyelolled

    I have to admit, that I am sick of the CU threads that keep getting made about the exact same thing. It reminds me of a long trip with children that keep saying "are we there yet?"  I'm not planning on buying the game, it just doesn't interest me, so it's not like they've lost a potential backer or sale but I am asking myself now "if this game make's its KS goal, are we going to be constantly flooded with spam until it finally releases? Do I honestly want the KS to succeed at all and have to put up with the spam for years to come?"

     

    So I think it would be great if the fans kept the spam to a minimum and the game made it's KS.

    at least most are in the CU forums.. would be great though for people with no interest in a game if they could block all threads from that games forum from showing up in recent forum activity

     

    nice new avatar:)

    yeah, my problem is I watch the recent activity list and tend to read on most all games. So when I open a thread to find that it's just a post that should have been put in the kickstarter thread the site made for them I have to shake my head.  I'm sure it's a great thing for all the trolls though, gives them lots to do!  lol

     

    and thanks  :)

    i think a LOT of posters on this site watch the recent activity as many play many differn't games and like to read about a lot of them.. but obviously there is going to be some you have no interest in and wish they would dissapear into a black hole and it just would be nice to have that option for people that want it:P

    Yeah I agree. I think I have an idea for that which might be easy to impliment. Site suggestions here I come!   lol

    All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

    I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.

    I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.

  • VyntVynt Glendale, CAPosts: 632Member Uncommon

    I do see quite a bit UC posts, but there were way more GW2 posts for a longer period of time. Hell, I think I still see more TESO posts about why someone hates something than UC posts, lol.

     

    I also find the comments funny about people saying they would have pledged or will remove pledges because of a few overzealous people wanting the game released. The former probably never would have pledged at all regardless, and the latter, that is just silly, or they never pledged and are just saying that.

    Think about it. A person won't play a game they are looking forward to because there are some irritating people in it. LOL. Guess those people will never play another mmo ever again. Annoying, immature people are in every game. If you don't like their forum activity, don't read it.

  • duggyfr3sh123duggyfr3sh123 oklahoma city, OKPosts: 95Member
    Originally posted by Vorthanion
    Originally posted by Marcus-
    Originally posted by Wakygreek
    Originally posted by Marcus-

    So theres overzealous people on the internet?  No kidding.

     

    They have little effect on what games (or political views, or religous views, or which movies or.... ) i am interested in, and i plan to keep it that way.

    If you allow them to even slightly determine how you viewed this game, well thats a shame, in my opinion. Especially if its the type of game you'd be interested in.

    Yes and no, it gives you an understanding of the possible community issues that could come later after the game launches. You may be surprised what overzealous people are capable of, and I think you underestimate them.

    Only if you think a pretty high percentage of the 10,933 current backers are acting this way. Perhaps you overestimate them?

     

    I also wouldn't give them the satisfaction of steering me one way or another if that were the case. Theres probably a lot more people in MMOs these days i would rather avoid than "group" with. There is a really good chance these people will have no effect on my play in this game whatsover. And i am pretty thankfull for that . The "good" folks however, make it all worthwhile.

    I'm curious, how many PvP focused games have a reputation for having mature and friendly communities?

    not a single one. the first GW had a good PVE community, the pvp crowd was as bad as any other game. ditto for DAoC.

  • SoMuchMassSoMuchMass New York, NYPosts: 548Member
    Originally posted by Zinzan
    The terrible spam today has made me seriously consider cancelling my pledge, I'm not sure i want 2 years on the closed forums with these type of people.

    Please go ahead and cancel, because one thing worse than spammers are whiners. 

  • StilerStiler Athens, TNPosts: 599Member

    It's not like someone forces you to read/write on the forums, if you don't like the community it doens't mean you can't enjoy the game.

     

    Look at moba games, they are known to have some of the worst communities (because the games are so heavily team focused), yet I still enjoy them, doesn't mean I have to get involved with the community/post on their forums to enjoy the game.

  • BeggarKingBeggarKing BirminghamPosts: 15Member

    The problem is that KS itself creates a feeling of "We need to makeppl aware of us" atmosphere. The game only funds if ppl hear about it,the only way for ppl to hear about it is the forums and the review sites. I know for a fact there wasn;t any intentional spam spec ops style attack,in fact I can tell you what happened. One of our members who had also funded Divinity (which btw looks very cool as well) and when they hit their funding goal they passed to him/her a list of media/forums sites that they had also sent word out to about their KS project stating that their numbers had gone up massively after mailing these sites.

    Now instead of just sending 1 mail to each site him/herself they shared the list on the backers forum which ofc at this time had about 9.5k ppl and it snowballed from there with multiple ppl thinking they were doing the best for the game by emailing the sites on the list, one person even typed out a cut n paste few paragraphs so ppl didnt have to each type something different and to make sure the info was all correct and upto date.

     

    It was the wrong thing to do but with the best intentions and lessons were learnt. Most are very passionate and when you are putting as much money into a game as we have (about $160 average per backer!!!) then ppl tend to become a bit over zealous and also will defend the idea/game with maybe a bit more gusto than is needed.

    It did feel like a catch 22 situation though at times,if we stayed quiet the game doesn't get the backers but if we speak too loudly too often it puts backers off (shrug)

     

    For all of my fellow CU backers I apologise for any annoyance caused,but hey what can you do,an over excited puppy is always going to hump your leg then pee on your shoe, its just nature ;)

  • cmacordcmacord Dexter, MOPosts: 6Member
    Major gratz to Mark & gang for hitting the mark !!!!!1
  • redcappredcapp brook, NYPosts: 722Member
    Originally posted by DocBrody
    [mod edit]

    Amazing that you still fail to see the point.  Kickstarter *is* intended to do exactly what its name implies, no matter how much the naysayers argue otherwise. 

     

    Sure, you can use KS to fund projects that are already in various stages of development.  Clearly, you can also use it to... hmm, kickstart new projects!

  • Plastic-MetalPlastic-Metal Highland Heights, KYPosts: 405Member

    Ah, the last den of troll baiting here on CU forums.  Started out legitimate, then spiraled into the cesspool that is here.  Maybe I'm just jaded these days.

    I agree with the article in the sense that trying to make something viral without the consent of the developers is a big, big no no in Kickstarters.

    Glad we funded.  /end

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  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Arkham, VAPosts: 10,910Member


    Originally posted by DocBrody
    What a joke. A project with nothing to show succeeds through spamming??? Great, expect lots of "campaigns" of that flavor in the future. Kickstarter game projects are officially dead for me. Blergh.

    You're assuming that's what happened. There's no way to tell. Many Kickstarters get close to the end and aren't actually trending towards getting funded, but they do because there's an increase in pledges. CU getting funded could just be that there were enough people who wanted to see it funded all along and the spam campaign meant nothing, except that some advertisers and news sites refused to cover the game because of the grass roots spam. Even that is going to be temporary since the game got funded.

    I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  • BurntvetBurntvet Baltimore, MDPosts: 2,939Member Uncommon
    Maybe the people shilling the still-very-much-theoretical-MMO called CU can shut up now. Maybe in 2-3 years there will be some reason to pay attention.
  • rimaxo14rimaxo14 chicopee, MAPosts: 118Member
    Lol at the people that come here too complain if you guys don't support CU then why visit the Camelot Unchained Forum section on here for goodness sakes go cry elsewhere.

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  • DistopiaDistopia Baltimore, MDPosts: 16,905Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by rimaxo14
    Lol at the people that come here too complain if you guys don't support CU then why visit the Camelot Unchained Forum section on here for goodness sakes go cry elsewhere.

    INB4 "but I can see it in the live feed"....derp

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  • skyexileskyexile MelbournePosts: 692Member

    Yea never got the whole "This game is gonna suckt, so im here posting about how much your game is gonna suck instead of playing my said awesome game of awesomeness"

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