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hmm, if it's a sandboxy game, I might if it's good. if it is themepark based with instances and another gear grinder, definately no.
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
For me, it's all down to how RvR will play out (and the announced lack of dedicated healer/support class is already a big no in my book, but I'll keep an open mind for now).
I'll see with my own eyes in open beta, there's no such thing as "professional review" - I do my own reviews and decide if it's worth of my money or not. And this comes from a F2P hater.
I wouldn't be there day 1 if their is a subscription
I wouldn't be there day 10 if their is a subscription
I'd watch the game a while.....and evaluate the pluses and minuses found by the pioneers
I'm really getting tired of being taken.My trust of any game company is gone.
I simply cannot justify paying a sub for a game
I ALMOST did with TERA, but jumped ship. This game would have to be EXTREMELY good to warrant a Steam Collection per month (i.e. GTA IV + DLC, Vice City, San Andreas, and GTA III are on sale for 12.98)
That does not mean the game won't be good or even excellent in quality and support. My dollar simply can go farther elsewhere in the gaming world.
"As you read these words, a release is seven days or less away or has just happened within the last seven days those are now the only two states youll find the world of Tyria."...Guild Wars 2
Originally posted by Iselin
You sound like an old-fart just like me I also want to add that even though I could afford to have monthly subs to more than a couple of them, I only ever sub to one at any given time. When I play an MMO I enjoy it much more if I can commit my play time to it. I like to get really into them and learn how to play them as best as I can.
You sound like an old-fart just like me
I also want to add that even though I could afford to have monthly subs to more than a couple of them, I only ever sub to one at any given time. When I play an MMO I enjoy it much more if I can commit my play time to it. I like to get really into them and learn how to play them as best as I can.
Yup, just turned 46 and sliding toward 50...
And that's how I do it. I try to just have one sub so I can commit to a game.
I used to have several subs but I found that I would be paying several months before I even logged into a game and that's just not a great use of my money.
However, exceptions can always be made.
will buy and play
then continue to play or not play, depending how good it is.
El Psy Congroo
Just join the beta and from that you can see whether to buy it or not.
I will join beta, make my decision during that time. If its fun I will pay with no problems as $15 a month for a good MMORPG would be nothing, every MMO I play nowadays free, buy to play, pay to play only last me 1 month or less as I get bored or find out the game was shallow and quit.
ESO is the only hope in 2013.
Archeage is not going to be ready by 2013 and also it will never be good as its an Eastern game being translated to the West. That means it will always be behind in content and slow for updates to reach us, also we have little say on changes to the game since it is only being ported to the West.
GAME TIL YOU DIE!!!!
Originally posted by khameleon
Just join the beta and from that you can see whether to buy it or not. I will join beta, make my decision during that time. If its fun I will pay with no problems as $15 a month for a good MMORPG would be nothing, every MMO I play nowadays free, buy to play, pay to play only last me 1 month or less as I get bored or find out the game was shallow and quit. ESO is the only hope in 2013. Archeage is not going to be ready by 2013 and also it will never be good as its an Eastern game being translated to the West. That means it will always be behind in content and slow for updates to reach us, also we have little say on changes to the game since it is only being ported to the West.
Wildstar is the only other MMO this year I am really intrested in. Has a lot of awesome features for PvP and PvE much like ESO. But both with a different direction.
=-D Only on a forum can optimism be called bad and pessimism the good thing =-D Welcome to the internet and forums.
Looking at the modern trend of newly released mmo's we can safely say that it aint worth it anymore to pay full price when they all go free to play within 2 /4 months.
Arenanet showed that you can make a decent mmo without a sub, you could try and make it pay to play.....but what good is that when you lose 50% of your playerbase and all forums are filled with bad posts about said mmo.
Warhammer Aion StarwarsSecret world
all tried to make it sub based....and all failed to retain their players.
You have to make a very very special kind of mmo to retain a sub based game, where in the past people where happy with a little bit of contend each few months.These days players demand montly based contend or they quit / unsub untill something better comes along.
ESO will not be that special snowfloke Archeage will not be that special snowflokeFF sameWildstar same...
way to generic mmo's altough some have very interesting features....but not enough to warrant 15 euro a month.
kinda sad if you look at it, as Blizzard showed the world that if you come with a good mmo at the right time, you can conquer the world.
It seems that the lifespan of a themepark mmo in their peak is at release...mostly created by hype.After the hype settles down massive exodus starts and creates a domino effect untill the next best mmo comes out.
A studio needs to create something very special these days to keep its players glued or witness the same fate as all other mmo's of the past decade that flop right after the other one's.
If i should pick a mmo that might be that special snowfloke my money would be on CCP's World of Darkness.CCP has shown how dedicated they are to produce a niche mmo and increased their playerbase from launch into their second decade with more and more subs.
Their sandbox is truly a special snowfloke, and looking at WOD only confirms they do not rush their games out of the door for profit.They want it to be exactly where they want it to be before releasing.No presure on devs, just love for what they do.
A decade ago we had Blizzard.....but we can all see what $$$$ can do to even the best gaming studios.But thats another story
I hope ESA will do well, but from what i have seen so far, its mmmo #3212445 that goes 2 million subs on launch and drops as fast as they gained it.
MMO's, gameplay-wise, are always best when they are fresh. Everyone is still trying to figure stuff out and everything is still novel so no one is boringly facerolling content just to rush through it. Of course bugs and other typical issues after a release are a negative, but unless the launch is just terrible, it usually isn't that big of a deal.
I will buy the game purely because it's TES online, even though I expect nothing about it to play like the single-player game. As an MMO it must inherently be a different game. I have been playing TES since Arena back in 1994 when I was 13 years old, so of course I'll buy the MMO version right off the bat.
Played: UO, DAoC, Shadowbane, DDO, LOTRO, Aion, Rift, TERASampled: WoW, AoC, GW2, Vanguard, FF XIV, NeverwinterPlaying: ESO
As much as it has irked me to throw down box price/sub and then watched as my money was ushered away by a gale of disappointment, I still prefer the subscription model for the very simple reason that I enjoy inventory space. The day I pay 5-10 euros for one bag on one character is the day I wrestle with a tiger shark in a massive vat of pork fat and dead mimes.
In my ideal world there would be trials and/or freemium options from the get-go, I have found that I simply cannot trust the majority of reviewers. Sometimes the reviews are accurate but they don't touch on the nuances of what would make the game enjoyable to me, like a well-greased and optimized game engine that doesn't require God's CPU to run in certain important circumstances. (*cough* GW2)
"No - I will wait until it goes F2P - 30.8%"
Originally posted by boxsnd Assuming the professional reviews on release day are great
These results are shocking to be honest. 38% of the potential playerbase has not learned a thing...
congratulations in leading the economy Not away from pre-orders.
I clicked show results..
If the game is good i would have no issues at all paying monthly for it.. if its not very good it will go f2p and wont be worth playing anyway..
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Yes, yes I would.
I don't really get the "against sub" attitude, you end up spending more on little crap that doesnt last a day on a weekend or just hanging out with friends so 15 bucks for a month's gameplay and to sustain the continued development of a game that I like is very very reasonable imho.
I also don't mind B2P like GW2 however and the addition of cash shops as long as its not thrown into ur face every 5 minutes (minus P2W items).
Originally posted by meddyck Now that CU has funded, I've realized I don't have much interest in subbing to yet another PvE MMO with a mediocre RvR system tacked on which in all likelihood I will cancel 2-3 months after release. TESO will need either to be B2P or the AvA will need to completely blow me away in beta to make me want to buy it.
What makes you think the game is going to come out soon if it just got funded? Couild be years for all you know.
Skip on Everquest Next and Elder Scrolls Online if you wish, I think you'd be missing out though.