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  • strangiato2112strangiato2112 Richmond, VAPosts: 1,538Member Common
    Originally posted by nf4mous
    Originally posted by strangiato2112
    Originally posted by nf4mous
    Originally posted by strangiato2112
     

    Posts like this cause people to hate a game's community.  CU will see nagtavity against it greater than SWTOR or GW2 because of smug crap like this.

    yeah, right.  if that were the case WoW would've been dead years ago.

    keep dreamin!

    I understand I made a major typo, but your response indicates you didnt comprehend what i wrote at all.

    or the fact i'm pointing out how your ridiculous and irrelevant "community" views have zero to do with the success of a game.   you intentionally  choose to focus on a vocal minority and then cry about a community you've never experienced or been a part of. hilarious, but wrong.

    Point out where in that post i commented on the success of the game?

  • strangiato2112strangiato2112 Richmond, VAPosts: 1,538Member Common
    Originally posted by Ikonis

    [mod edit]

    Not to mention the message was actually positive towards CSE/Jacobs...

  • ZedTheRockZedTheRock Florence, KYPosts: 172Member
    Originally posted by GwapoJosh
    That's exactly why I didn't back this game.. The CU fanboys started annoying the fuck out of me with their constant spamming of pointless threads and the constant begging.  I'll still play the game when it launches though..

    Yup was 100 times worse the the GW2 fanboi's.

    SUP

  • RefMinorRefMinor MyTownPosts: 3,452Member

    Kickstarter Community Guidelines

    Spread the word but don't spam

    What's spam? Some examples include:

    Emailing or direct messaging strangers, especially en masse

    Using email lists from third parties or soliciting backers of other Kickstarter projects

    Sending unsolicited @-replies on Twitter

    Link-bombing forums

    Promoting a project on other projects' pages

    Sharing your project with friends, fans, and followers is one thing, but invading inboxes and social networks uninvited is another. Spamming makes you and every other Kickstarter project look bad, and it puts your project in jeopardy of being suspended. Not sure if something is spam? If you have to ask, it probably is.

     

    Be respectful and considerate

     

    Violating these rules or our Terms of Use may result in your account being deleted and/or your project being suspended. That's not fun for anyone, so please follow these simple rules very carefully. Cool? Cool.

  • Marcus-Marcus- Posts: 970Member Uncommon

    So theres overzealous people on the internet?  No kidding.

     

    They have little effect on what games (or political views, or religous views, or which movies or.... ) i am interested in, and i plan to keep it that way.

    If you allow them to even slightly determine how you viewed this game, well thats a shame, in my opinion. Especially if its the type of game you'd be interested in.

  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by Marcus-

    So theres overzealous people on the internet?  No kidding.

     

    They have little effect on what games (or political views, or religous views, or which movies or.... ) i am interested in, and i plan to keep it that way.

    If you allow them to even slightly determine how you viewed this game, well thats a shame, in my opinion. Especially if its the type of game you'd be interested in.

    like i pointed out above.. agree 100%.. the vocal minority should never have any effect on how you percieve a game overall

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • RictisRictis UnknownPosts: 1,231Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Marcus-

    So theres overzealous people on the internet?  No kidding.

     

    They have little effect on what games (or political views, or religous views, or which movies or.... ) i am interested in, and i plan to keep it that way.

    If you allow them to even slightly determine how you viewed this game, well thats a shame, in my opinion. Especially if its the type of game you'd be interested in.

    Yes and no, it gives you an understanding of the possible community issues that could come later after the game launches. You may be surprised what overzealous people are capable of, and I think you underestimate them.

  • Ice-QueenIce-Queen USA, GAPosts: 2,451Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Koroshiya

    not a rabid CU fan, was a rabid DAoC fan but I haven't emailed anyone or backed them yet.... 

     

    with that said, I agree here and it might just get me to support CU even if only at 25 dollar level.  Penny Arcade, quit your whining.  You are in existance today because of gamers who have the kinda passion CU gamers do.  If you don't like dealing with end user spam, don't get involved in the industry.  It's a freaking given that most gamers who care enough to email sometimes will go overboard.  Anyone who works in the industry knows, if they get important enough, will have to deal with this kind of situation.  Maybe they should stick to just writing comics then and not reviewing games or having a website.

    I agree

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    What happens when you log off your characters????.....
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFQhfhnjYMk
    Dark Age of Camelot

  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by Wakygreek
    Originally posted by Marcus-

    So theres overzealous people on the internet?  No kidding.

     

    They have little effect on what games (or political views, or religous views, or which movies or.... ) i am interested in, and i plan to keep it that way.

    If you allow them to even slightly determine how you viewed this game, well thats a shame, in my opinion. Especially if its the type of game you'd be interested in.

    Yes and no, it gives you an understanding of the possible community issues that could come later after the game launches. You may be surprised what overzealous people are capable of, and I think you underestimate them.

    not really.. i guarntee 100% of games out their have their fare share of d-bags, asshats and so forth.. now obviously some games more than others but again people who rant and rave all over the net are not a good indication of the type of community a game really has or ends up with

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • MalogrinMalogrin GothenburgPosts: 13Member
    This post, made me laugh so hard. So, they got some spam in their mailboxes, what do they want? Refund of the time it took them, before putting em into the trash can?
  • Marcus-Marcus- Posts: 970Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Wakygreek
    Originally posted by Marcus-

    So theres overzealous people on the internet?  No kidding.

     

    They have little effect on what games (or political views, or religous views, or which movies or.... ) i am interested in, and i plan to keep it that way.

    If you allow them to even slightly determine how you viewed this game, well thats a shame, in my opinion. Especially if its the type of game you'd be interested in.

    Yes and no, it gives you an understanding of the possible community issues that could come later after the game launches. You may be surprised what overzealous people are capable of, and I think you underestimate them.

    Only if you think a pretty high percentage of the 10,933 current backers are acting this way. Perhaps you overestimate them?

     

    I also wouldn't give them the satisfaction of steering me one way or another if that were the case. Theres probably a lot more people in MMOs these days i would rather avoid than "group" with. There is a really good chance these people will have no effect on my play in this game whatsover. And i am pretty thankfull for that . The "good" folks however, make it all worthwhile.

  • Squeak69Squeak69 Colorado Springs, COPosts: 956Member
    Originally posted by Malogrin
    This post, made me laugh so hard. So, they got some spam in their mailboxes, what do they want? Refund of their time it took them, before putting em into the trash can?

    so if you got the exact same e-mail a few hundred times from diffrent people when you have to go through all your mail everyday, and i mean go through it not just browse for contacts you knows and dump the rest.

    wouldnt you be more then a bit annoyed.

    F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used toimage
    Proper Grammer & spelling are extra, corrections will be LOL at.

  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member
    Originally posted by Squeak69
    Originally posted by Malogrin
    This post, made me laugh so hard. So, they got some spam in their mailboxes, what do they want? Refund of their time it took them, before putting em into the trash can?

    so if you got the exact same e-mail a few hundred times from diffrent people when you have to go through all your mail everyday, and i mean go through it not just browse for contacts you knows and dump the rest.

    wouldnt you be more then a bit annoyed.

    That's only part of the point.  Malogrin is defending spam, something that is .. well, I thought was unanimously loathed.  Then again, Malogrin also seems to misunderstand that it's probably not spam if you WANT it in your inbox.

  • MalogrinMalogrin GothenburgPosts: 13Member
    Spam filter lists, or content blocking. There are so many tools already deployed to prevent this, especially if email is your main tool for your business. I just think they trying to make a fuss over it.
  • Squeak69Squeak69 Colorado Springs, COPosts: 956Member
    Originally posted by Malogrin
    Spam filter lists, or content blocking. There are so many tools already deployed to prevent this, especially if email is your main tool for your business. I just think they trying to make a fuss over it.

    for e-mail? from a large amount of diffrent senders, and it know what the content is for you.

    i want your e-mail filter.

    F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used toimage
    Proper Grammer & spelling are extra, corrections will be LOL at.

  • MalogrinMalogrin GothenburgPosts: 13Member
    Originally posted by Squeak69
    Originally posted by Malogrin
    Spam filter lists, or content blocking. There are so many tools already deployed to prevent this, especially if email is your main tool for your business. I just think they trying to make a fuss over it.

    for e-mail? from a large amount of diffrent senders, and it know what the content is for you.

    i want your e-mail filter.

    Whenever an email has "CU" or "Camelot Unchained" in title or main body, put them into a special folder to check it out later, in case something important went there (which was not spam).

  • TimothyTierlessTimothyTierless Columnist M, ORPosts: 2,163Member Uncommon

    It comes down to this; I confused mass emailing for social media (people hate lots of emails, people love twitter, fb, etc followers likes etc). I made a mistake and issued a serious apology. I still feel terrible for causing anyone any harm. I never imagined something jokingly named Rambo Unicorn would even be read, let alone taken seriously. In the end, even I underestimated the CU backers.

    The reason I listed this site first is simple, I love this site. I want everyone who has ever heard of an MMORPG to know that this site is, was, and I think always will be the single best place to go for your MMO info. Yeah we argue a lot, we troll a lot, we bicker about all kinds of trivial things, but at the end of the day we are all here for 1 reason, we love these games. We an argue forever about mmos but I think we should all agree that this site is amazing.

    My troll brothers, bear with us for 43 hours. In 43 hours we crawl back into the abyss from which we came. You will rarely see me around here, other than when I put up an occasional new blog (which your welcome to post anything under, you will see I don't delete any posts, I welcome any and all). I'll still be active on the forums (sorry) but I have found that my posts are all to often TLTR so they work better in that format, and that way you wont get the timeline post bump that drives you all crazy either.

  • GrayGhost79GrayGhost79 Webster, MAPosts: 4,813Member

    I'm not sure how, could you please explain how a completely unrelated incident is relevant to this thread or topic, let alone ends discussion on it?

     

    In any case the article in the OP is correct. The spam campaign has already taken its toll and will continue to take its toll.

    1) It has driven off a great number of potential backers. Many fence sitters have been urked by the behavoir of CU die hard fans. I myself was a fence sitter at one point until these die hard fans put me squarely in the "No" camp with the excessive spam and disruptive trollish behavoir.

    2) CU die hards have breed their own haters. Whether or not this game gets funded doesn't matter now. What should have been a niche game that flew under most peoples radars has now become this thing to despise. Professional Journalists and Reviewers as well aren't going to very forgiving of all the harassment and neither will gamers. The die hards have effectively created a situation where there is no win condition. If the game gets funded it has nothing but an uphill battle now. 

     

    This type of behavoir has really put everyone in a bit of a bind. If the game funds and is successful it is likely that others may get the idea that spamming, trolling, and harassing News sites, gaming forums, players while they are in other games, and so on works. 

     

    You can try and write off what the article says because of an unrelated inccident if you want, but keep in mind his views and opinions on the subject are shared by a great deal of people. 

     

    The constant begging every where you look from the same group of people. 

    The constant trolling and derailing of threads that question design decisions and the lack of info every where you look. 

    The constant attempts at insulting those that don't want to pledge or simply haven't made a decision on whether they want to back it or not every where you look. 

    Believe it or not, thanks to this die hard campaign many if not most are sick of CU. They are sick of hearing about it, they are sick of seeing anything about it, and they are sick of the games fans. 

     

    In any case, I wish you guys luck only because it's in my nature to do so. Lets hope that you 1) haven't managed to keep the game from funding and 2) haven't managed to tick of so many people that CUs future is as bleak as I think it could be even if it does get funded. 

  • Squeak69Squeak69 Colorado Springs, COPosts: 956Member
    Originally posted by Malogrin
    Originally posted by Squeak69
    Originally posted by Malogrin
    Spam filter lists, or content blocking. There are so many tools already deployed to prevent this, especially if email is your main tool for your business. I just think they trying to make a fuss over it.

    for e-mail? from a large amount of diffrent senders, and it know what the content is for you.

    i want your e-mail filter.

    Whenever an email has "CU" or "Camelot Unchained" in title or main body, put them into a special folder to check it out later, in case something important went there (which was not spam).

    once agian i dont have a e-mail filter i can set to do things like that honestly if you got a program that dose that share it cause i would LUV one, thanks to my job hunting i get about 100 scams e-mail a day and i read each one to make sure its not actualy a job reply or job offer.

    drives me absulutly bat shit crazy.

    F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used toimage
    Proper Grammer & spelling are extra, corrections will be LOL at.

  • TimothyTierlessTimothyTierless Columnist M, ORPosts: 2,163Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by Squeak69
    Originally posted by Malogrin Originally posted by Squeak69 Originally posted by Malogrin Spam filter lists, or content blocking. There are so many tools already deployed to prevent this, especially if email is your main tool for your business. I just think they trying to make a fuss over it.
    for e-mail? from a large amount of diffrent senders, and it know what the content is for you. i want your e-mail filter.
    Whenever an email has "CU" or "Camelot Unchained" in title or main body, put them into a special folder to check it out later, in case something important went there (which was not spam).
    once agian i dont have a e-mail filter i can set to do things like that honestly if you got a program that dose that share it cause i would LUV one, thanks to my job hunting i get about 100 scams e-mail a day and i read each one to make sure its not actualy a job reply or job offer.

    drives me absulutly bat shit crazy.


    I usually get some that say "Hilo Kind sir, beautiful Russian Bride is ready for you. She is very willing and obedant."

    or

    "Kind sir or madam, I have great offer for you, bigtime money, please ship for me"

  • TaldierTaldier Camp Hill, PAPosts: 235Member
    Originally posted by Squeak69
    Originally posted by Malogrin
    Originally posted by Squeak69
    Originally posted by Malogrin
    Spam filter lists, or content blocking. There are so many tools already deployed to prevent this, especially if email is your main tool for your business. I just think they trying to make a fuss over it.

    for e-mail? from a large amount of diffrent senders, and it know what the content is for you.

    i want your e-mail filter.

    Whenever an email has "CU" or "Camelot Unchained" in title or main body, put them into a special folder to check it out later, in case something important went there (which was not spam).

    once agian i dont have a e-mail filter i can set to do things like that honestly if you got a program that dose that share it cause i would LUV one, thanks to my job hunting i get about 100 scams e-mail a day and i read each one to make sure its not actualy a job reply or job offer.

    drives me absulutly bat shit crazy.

    While I strongly disagree with the concept of spamming people to get attention... are you serious?

     

    Gmail lets you set up your own filter rules, and so does Outlook.  Im actually not sure if theres still an email service that doesnt.

  • Squeak69Squeak69 Colorado Springs, COPosts: 956Member
    Originally posted by Taldier
    Originally posted by Squeak69
    Originally posted by Malogrin
    Originally posted by Squeak69
    Originally posted by Malogrin
    Spam filter lists, or content blocking. There are so many tools already deployed to prevent this, especially if email is your main tool for your business. I just think they trying to make a fuss over it.

    for e-mail? from a large amount of diffrent senders, and it know what the content is for you.

    i want your e-mail filter.

    Whenever an email has "CU" or "Camelot Unchained" in title or main body, put them into a special folder to check it out later, in case something important went there (which was not spam).

    once agian i dont have a e-mail filter i can set to do things like that honestly if you got a program that dose that share it cause i would LUV one, thanks to my job hunting i get about 100 scams e-mail a day and i read each one to make sure its not actualy a job reply or job offer.

    drives me absulutly bat shit crazy.

    While I strongly disagree with the concept of spamming people to get attention... are you serious?

     

    Gmail lets you set up your own filter rules, and so does Outlook.  Im actually not sure if theres still an email service that doesnt.

    i use gmail and the options it has are honestly not very good for dealing with things unless you know exactly who and what the content is going to be in advance.

    F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used toimage
    Proper Grammer & spelling are extra, corrections will be LOL at.

  • adam_noxadam_nox hays, KSPosts: 2,036Member Uncommon
    media organizations are used to email campaigns, spam, and just generally having to sift through a bunch of emails that they deem unimportant or similar.  Put on your big boy pants and don't cry about spam if you are a news outlet imo.
  • Squeak69Squeak69 Colorado Springs, COPosts: 956Member
    so everyone here thinkgs its ok to get a few hundred e-mails all about the same thing . . . . . . . . . . ya know im going back to hateing my pile of scam spam mail, yall do what ya want im done here.

    F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used toimage
    Proper Grammer & spelling are extra, corrections will be LOL at.

  • MrSaltyMrSalty South Windsor, CTPosts: 39Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Dahkoht

    MJ has even asked the fanatics to basically stfu.

     

    "Morning all I don't have much time right now but please, please stop sending out emails to news sites looking to get us coverage. I appreciate the thoughts but anyone who is doing that now is hurting, not helping, our chance of success with this campaign. So please, once again, stop.;"

     

    this...stfu already.

     

     

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