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If you could go back would you?
cybertrucker
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I'm talking in time purely in a gaming aspect though. Or are you content and happy with all the games of today. I realize that graphically speaking older games can be hard to look at sometimes. But if you could just forget all the gorgeous graphics and niceties like advanced UIs on your trip back, would you?
remember this is a question from purely a gaming standpoint.
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Not in a million years.
MMOs are much better games today than 10 years ago, for me. Same for many other genre. I would MUCH rather play Bioshock Infinite than DOOM.
While I love many classic games and a lot of what I enjoy about gaming tends to be things I end up referencing from older/defunct titles, nah.
I love games for a large part for their technical capacity and the possibilities it offers, and that is something that only grows with progress, even if we don't always see games I particularly enjoy playing coming out of it.
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Content and happy with all games? Just like you were content and happy with all games of the past, right?
No.
80% of everything is crap. 80% of old games are crap. 80% of modern games are crap.
But the bar has been raised. Game designs are better now.
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I love several old games and still think they are unmatched till today but i already played thoose classics a lot and being stuck with them again instead of having at least the hope for something new isn't something i would want. In addition more advanced graphics and especially much better UI/controlls are something the classics are missing.
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For some reason the word 'hyperbole' is coming to mind when reading you recently.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
lol I completely disagree.
Most popular FPS for the PC? Yup. Still the ORIGINAL Counter-Strike and TF2.
MMOs... Obviously much better back in the day... back when they were virtual worlds. These days, all we experience is a huge initial population during the first month. After that, it's a complete exodus. After that, it's Free to Play, which ends up costing more than $15 per month just to have basic gaming functions, e.g., ability to hold a certain amount of gold, ability to browse auction house, etc.
Out of all the Unreal Tournament games, UT99 (the first) is the only one with a real community.
WoW, as much as I hate the game, still holds the most people.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
I don't know.
Some really old MMOs still exist for me to go back to if I want but because I've played them to exhaustion I would not keep playing them.
Now, if we are talking if I could go back in time and play some games like SWG in it's prime, which I didn't get to do, then I absolutely would.
If I could replay some of fun times I had in the old MMOs I used to play (back in that time), yes.
What was great about them was that there were a lot of new things to experience and the in that time period it was fun to discover that with the game communities (nerds). The games weren't exactly more fun or had better design overall.
So it you are asking if I want to go back to playing tic tac toe, the answer is no.
Would I prefer to play older games over new ones? - no way!
Would I prefer to play a new game with old game design rather than the modern, accessible one? hell yeah!
There's no MMO released since 2009 that is worth to even log on, so I can very well save my money and spend my free time playing those old and ugly games as f2p.
You can disagree. The OP is asking people for their personal opinion. Mine is as valid as yours.
And yes, MMOs were vritual worlds .. but worse games. They are much better games now. And what is the problem with huge initial population, then exodus? Have some free fun, then move to another game. You can't do that in the old days. That is why it is much better, for me, now.
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I wouldn't want to go back knowing what I know now, the games would be boring. If it was all new again sure. Most of the reason it was all so exciting is because it was all new and you'd never done anything like it.
The people were all different then too. Way less bitter angery people. The communities back then were made up of people who wanted to get to know others and be part of a vertual world. Now it's mostly people who want to use others to get loot/xp/gold...whatever.
As far as going back in time to play a particular game I would say no, but, I would love to be able to go back in time and experience the OMG factor of the first time I logged into an MMO again. The awe that came with realizing how huge the world was, the excitement and intensity of the first big boss fight in a raid with 70 other people, the sense of epic awesomeness the first time I beat that big boss that took us weeks of struggle and planning to overcome.
Its somewhat like taking a drug I suppose. In the beginning everything is just ... wow.. then you spend the rest of your gaming time chasing the feeling you had back when you were a true newb in the MMO world.
Oh absolutely. Graphically speaking most of those old games hold up quite well. And despite the worse fidelity, the gameplay sucks you in and is much more immersive than modern MMOs.
If classic Dark Age of Camelot existed, I'd be playing it. No modern MMOs have been able to measure up to the quality of Golden Age MMOs.
Try since 2004
Though Vanguard and Darkfall are close.
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Should have made a poll on this. Would be nice to see how it would have done, given that you don't have to be vocal to participate. I understand wanting a reason for X or Y though.
They butchered EQ. For the last few years, it has been just a shimmer of its former self. That leaves only one option, which I can't speak of, to actually "go back" to what it was.
So you could say you can't go back even if you wanted to.. and in a sense that's right. But ehh.. You *can*.
That said, if I could go back I would - but only if all of the following were true.
1) Visuals, as you said, would be "fresh" again
2) I had the time to play that I once did. Even though I was in my 20's when EQ came out, I had a lot more time to devote to MMORPGs.
3) All of my old friends, and the first guild I created (which required an actual GM and was a ceremony), were there as well.
So yeah.. If this and that, then goback();
The thing I miss most about the 'old days' is the real sense of community you got on an MMORPG.
My favourite would have been Mir2 - the community on there back in the day was fantastic, you just don't get that anymore nowadays. I'm not sure if its because of a change in the mentality, or the design of the game, but I'd definitely without a doubt go back to those days.
I don't like the MMORPGs of today, not sure if I would want to play any of the old school ones right now either. I could defnitely go back to Vanguard if and only if they brought back the FFA PVP server and it had a healthy population. That server is the most fun I have ever had playing MMORPGs despite all the horrible bugs/problems at launch. The open PVP in that game was just fun as hell with a large population. It had tab target combat which is lame but the skills that they had in that game were so unique and cool that the combat was actually a blast.
Things weren't balanced well but everything felt kind of overpowered. I remember how excited I was when I killed my first Cleric, since they were practically impossible to kill (though not particularly dangerous) I remember being chased by a sorcerer almost dead and teleporting behind the guy and murdering him. I remember how pets were so buggy that it was really hard to target them, and this made the crappy pet classes viable. I remember how Bards made there group members flicker in and out of invisibility and could keep a player incapacitated for however long they felt like it. I remember how druids could do an enormous amount of damage with one spell, so you had to be wary. I remember how Blood Mages could siphon health off an enemy and redirect it to an ally. I remember how Paladins had a low level skill that was bugged to do enormous damage in PVP, but the tooltip was so bad that few people bothered. When you saw a paladin though you RAN!! I remember when running through New Targenor always meant someone would try and kill you so you had to be hyper alert. With all the fixes now that game would be great if they re added the FFA PVP server with the same system of gold looting that they had before.
The bugs, crashes, falling through the environment, gold duping ect. really killed the games population and somewhere along the line they merged servers and decided the FFA server was not needed. I hate PVE so end sub there. When I think back on MMORPGs that is the one I think i liked the most...
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I will play no more MMORPGs until somethign good comes out!
Currently about 10 friends of mine and I are playing an unofficial "older" version (circa 2003) of a MMORPG and loving the old school feel and mechanics.
I enjoy the slow grinding, challenges of npc's that resist different abilities/weapons, and the "surprise factor", when sometimes, for some reason the npc just resists all attacks and kills me flat.. (requiring a nice long horse ride back to pick up my grave after healing back my con)
When I joined them recently I expressed my inability to find pleasure in modern mmo's for more than a short time and as one person put it, "you are probably too intelligent to stick with those for very long".
Uhhh, yeah, that's it, too smart for them, that's my story and sticking to it.
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Still playing FFXI and i will until they shut it down. No fancy new game with shiny graphics is even close. Some of the new games are fun, but like above poster said, i feel insulted by the hand holding and easy mode.