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HOGG gets banned for griefing

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  • furbansfurbans Tinbucktwo, IAPosts: 965Member
    Originally posted by eyelolled

    Well somebody should give this guy an award for being a true internetz bad ass, playin his gangsta music while pwnin gimps!  lol

     

    reminds me of this

     

    HAHAHAHAAHA, that was a good laugh and how true it probobly is to these "hardcore" players.

  • BrownAleBrownAle fantasyland, MEPosts: 399Member

    LOL watched their video.

     

    Too bad to leave safe zone.  All they do is jump on people so they cant really resource.

     

    That is it.

     

    In the guys vides he said "this is real griefers"  but sadly they couldnt leave their own safe zone prison...or they would actually get griefed.

    So it appears to me that these badasses were in map prison, not able to leave that area, and therefore turned their anger on the only people worse than them, new players in safe zones...only its a safe zone so they cant kill them, so they jump on them while resourcing, which makes them have to click the node again.

     

    I was actually concerned when i heard they banned griefers, but then i saw the video and realized they are non factor safe zone griefers.

     

    Your only actually going to get griefed in this game if you join a clan who is absolutely at war with the entier server, and the people who do join those clans want people to come at them.  It works well actually.

     

    Join a few weeks after launch and whatever you are using wont be worth the time to loot, and more people will feel bad for you running around in noob gear farming noob mobs. 

     

     

  • SupportPlayerMMSupportPlayerMM Lufkin, TXPosts: 310Member
    I was just thinking this morning, AV put in the safe zones specifically to harness new players to the game and give them an area to learn stress free, I bet HOGG gets banned for exploiting it... and looky look... they did, HAH.
  • bubalubabubaluba LjubljanaPosts: 434Member
    What are you people bunch of girl scouts or what?? In so many years i never saw anyone capable to destroy my joy for pvp. Why you even play games like this one if you are so ''sensible''?  What is next? Can i attack you please Sir?
  • ZorlofeZorlofe Whitehouse, TXPosts: 187Member
    Originally posted by bubaluba
    What are you people bunch of girl scouts or what?? In so many years i never saw anyone capable to destroy my joy for pvp. Why you even play games like this one if you are so ''sensible''?  What is next? Can i attack you please Sir?

    No, we're just the type of people that aren't completely desensitized and so selfish to go and do nothing but selfish acts to get a rise out of other people in order to feel some sort of control over their life. This kind of behavior has spread like a plague in gaming and the more people like you that react the same way help to spread it. Sure, it's not the most serious case but it's still tasteless, moronic, selfish, immature, and pointless. I'm sure you'll have some witty and troll like reply for what I've said but all that will do is prove my point.

  • kaiser3282kaiser3282 Phoenix, AZPosts: 2,690Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by bubaluba
    What are you people bunch of girl scouts or what?? In so many years i never saw anyone capable to destroy my joy for pvp. Why you even play games like this one if you are so ''sensible''?  What is next? Can i attack you please Sir?

    Think you missed the whole part wher ethey werent griefing people through "pvp". They were doing stuff like going around safe zones and interrupting harvesters. While harvesting, you have to have a clear LoS to the node youre harvesting or else it gets interrupted. Another player can come get in your field of view and stop your harvesting. They were just going around doing this to everyone they could find, knowing that they culd continue acting like little bitches and not be attacked for it due to being in a safe zone. Iftheyre werent too scared to leave the safe zone, would have been a different story.

  • bubalubabubaluba LjubljanaPosts: 434Member
    Originally posted by kaiser3282
    Originally posted by bubaluba
    What are you people bunch of girl scouts or what?? In so many years i never saw anyone capable to destroy my joy for pvp. Why you even play games like this one if you are so ''sensible''?  What is next? Can i attack you please Sir?

    Think you missed the whole part wher ethey werent griefing people through "pvp". They were doing stuff like going around safe zones and interrupting harvesters. While harvesting, you have to have a clear LoS to the node youre harvesting or else it gets interrupted. Another player can come get in your field of view and stop your harvesting. They were just going around doing this to everyone they could find, knowing that they culd continue acting like little bitches and not be attacked for it due to being in a safe zone. Iftheyre werent too scared to leave the safe zone, would have been a different story.

    Well i see now, sorry  :)

  • kcfansbivkcfansbiv Mesquite, TXPosts: 1Member Uncommon
    Really enjoying the game. Glad they are keeping people like that off the servers.
  • BaselineBaseline Sloan, NYPosts: 503Member

    I don't see the big deal. 

    There's dominance with skill, and there's trolling/griefing; this is the latter, and it gets banned in most games.

    You can't ask game developers to make sure the game is troll-proof. Better to flat-out ban those people and make examples rather than make compromises in game design.

    AV did the right thing, but by the thread title and OP, it makes it sound like someone was exercising organized dominance over other players and they were banned for that. This isn't a case of coordinated players griefing uncoordinated players, it was the case of one blockhead abusing game mechanics and making the experience annoying.

  • ariasaitchoariasaitcho Rapid City, SDPosts: 112Member
    Originally posted by Baseline

    I don't see the big deal. 

    There's dominance with skill, and there's trolling/griefing; this is the latter, and it gets banned in most games.

    You can't ask game developers to make sure the game is troll-proof. Better to flat-out ban those people and make examples rather than make compromises in game design.

    AV did the right thing, but by the thread title and OP, it makes it sound like someone was exercising organized dominance over other players and they were banned for that. This isn't a case of coordinated players griefing uncoordinated players, it was the case of one blockhead abusing game mechanics and making the experience annoying.

    Apparently you didn't read the entire thread and also didn't watch the videos. HOGG isn't the name of the player who was banned, it's the name of the Guild to which he belongs. And it wasn't just him doing that, it was all the members of that guild. More than one player was banned as a result of this. Also if you watched the video you would have seen that they do the exact same thing in every game they play. And they make videos of themselves doing it.

    Yo, yo I'm so gangsta I be poppin caps on foos who be in my town. Except I'm not really "poppin", I'm just walking in front of them. And it's at no risk to myself as it's a safe zone, so no one can retaliate against me. Billy? Billy Bad Ass? Your mommy called and said it's dinnertime, so come up out of the basement and wash your hands. image

    lol What a rube!

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  • RollieJoeRollieJoe Raleigh, NCPosts: 436Member

    Everyone here is talking like some griefers from Hogg got banned, but is that actually known to be true? 

     

    http://www.unholybanhammer.com/BH/

     

    There's a list of all the supposed bans, which players are these griefers on that list?  I don't see anyone named Hogg or from Hogg clan.

  • jandrsnjandrsn Minneapolis, MNPosts: 187Member
    This reminds me of City of Heroes with the pvp zones. One of them allowed villians to tp foe into a watchtower and no one could fix it unless you had tp friend and joined their group. On my server there were at least twenty people who had their toon stuck in there because of one jackass. He got off on screwing random people over, and never got punished for it. That's all he did for a few weeks until the devs fixed it. Then he whined about how everyone was against him and all that. He actually thought other human beings were there for his amusement. And that's why griefers need perma bans. If some jerkoff tried to stop me from using a gas station I'd laugh, because I could either call the cops or whomp his butt. In a game though, they have no reason not to be a jerk. Yay internet!
  • itchmonitchmon west islip, NYPosts: 1,714Member Uncommon

    i hope this guy moves to eve.

     

    i would take a few sec hits to blow up this guy's prize possessions a coupla times so he sees how it feels..

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  • ArakaziArakazi OxfordPosts: 889Member
    Griefers are a dime a dozen in MMOs, what makes this guy special?
  • asmkm22asmkm22 Anchorage, AKPosts: 1,788Member
    Originally posted by RollieJoe

    Everyone here is talking like some griefers from Hogg got banned, but is that actually known to be true? 

     

    http://www.unholybanhammer.com/BH/

     

    There's a list of all the supposed bans, which players are these griefers on that list?  I don't see anyone named Hogg or from Hogg clan.

    I wondered the same thing.  Looked on the forums and found where one of the members stated they received a "temporary ban" (wouldn't that just be a suspension?).

    https://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?364657-HOGG-Darkfall-Unholy-Wars-Safe-Zone-PVP/page4

    Post #56 in particular.

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  • WizardryWizardry Ontario, CanadaPosts: 8,444Member Uncommon

    I like the fact that they are trying to conduct a good solid business but how is it not hypocritical to create an open eneded pvp game then call it griefing?

    The racial slurs of course,but they created this design,are they going to ban themselves for creating griefing?

    Also do they not haver safe zones as well?That woudl tell me ,if you go outside the safe zone you are fair game,it defeats the whole purpose of the game.

    So it is a plus 1 thumbs up and then a thumbs down at the same time.


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  • jfoytekjfoytek tigard, ORPosts: 150Member
    Originally posted by Wizardry

    I like the fact that they are trying to conduct a good solid business but how is it not hypocritical to create an open eneded pvp game then call it griefing?

    The racial slurs of course,but they created this design,are they going to ban themselves for creating griefing?

    Also do they not haver safe zones as well?That woudl tell me ,if you go outside the safe zone you are fair game,it defeats the whole purpose of the game.

    So it is a plus 1 thumbs up and then a thumbs down at the same time.

    wow your way off the mark....  You need to watch the video's posted in this thread to understand that the griefing they are doing has absolutely nothing to do with PvP....  They are exploiting game mechanics to anger players like bumping into a person repeatedly when they are attempting to fish, which causes the fishing mechanic to reset....

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  • asmkm22asmkm22 Anchorage, AKPosts: 1,788Member
    Originally posted by Wizardry

    I like the fact that they are trying to conduct a good solid business but how is it not hypocritical to create an open eneded pvp game then call it griefing?

    The racial slurs of course,but they created this design,are they going to ban themselves for creating griefing?

    Also do they not haver safe zones as well?That woudl tell me ,if you go outside the safe zone you are fair game,it defeats the whole purpose of the game.

    So it is a plus 1 thumbs up and then a thumbs down at the same time.

    All of this "griefing" happened in a safe zone.  Basically, he was just running in front of people while they were trying to get ore and wood (breaking line of sight stops them from mining/logging it seems).  There was no killing or anything, just preventing people in the safe zone place from actually doing anything.

    It's really funny listening to that guy trying to act like some alpha male hardore badass, while jumping up and down in front of people in a game.  The first two minutes of the video have him just spouting off about how he's king of this town and if you don't like that, then go play a carebear game.  Of course he's saying all of this like he's some mid-90's wrestler talking pre-fight smack.  Seriously, just pretend it's Macho Man Randy Savage playing an MMO, and that's pretty much it.

    What's even better is reading their forums.  You get people whining about how the game is going to fail unless they can throw racial slurs around in general chat, and crap like that.  It's like the entire DFU community is made up of 13 year old sociopaths.

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  • HairysunHairysun none, OHPosts: 1,060Member
    Originally posted by RollieJoe

    Everyone here is talking like some griefers from Hogg got banned, but is that actually known to be true? 

     

    http://www.unholybanhammer.com/BH/

     

    There's a list of all the supposed bans, which players are these griefers on that list?  I don't see anyone named Hogg or from Hogg clan.

     

    A valid point.  I wonder if it was a temporary ban (like for a week) as opposed to a permanent one .

     

    ~Hairysun

     

  • WylfWylf Brentwood, CAPosts: 159Member
    If it was a temporary ban it's just another reason not to play this game.
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