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Love the look of EVE but also heard its very unfriendly when it comes to new players i.e you die a lot.
Is there a specific job/proff/side I should choose where I know I'm safe and wont get dicked around with ?
Again only going on what I've heard.
Any info is appreciated
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If you want to be safe you're playing the wrong game.
Even tooling around in highsec you're not really safe.
My advice if you're wanting to get in the game for the long haul is to buy a PLEX, sell it, and buy the best implants you can get for stat boosts. Then start researching all the stat boosting skills (cant rem what they're called). There are basic and advanced ones. Get the basics up to skill 5, and the advanced up to 2 or 3. This will take a couple of months of training, but its going to save you years on the back end.
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
Find yourself a group of people to play with, it makes things a lot more fun, and they can mentor you.
Other than that, there is no right way to start Eve, unfortunately. It's all about finding something you like doing and going for it.
The only thing I will say is DON'T GO TO 0.5 OR LOWER SYSTEMS. You might get a mission that says to go to one, just abandon it until you're ready, which will be some time in the future. A lot of new players make the mistake of jumping in to one, even if they know it's dangerous. Ship losses hurt a newbie a lot more than a vet; it's much harder for you to recover.
Also watch out for scams, read stuff carefully.
You mean the learning skills that got removed in 2010? :P
EVE is PVP centric. It’s hard to trust anyone so look out for SCAMS. You will never be 100% safe. Risks are lower in some tasks than in others and the rewards will vary accordingly. Make sure you don’t fly a ship you can’t afford to lose and you will be fine. Do all of the tutorials, get an idea of what is fun for you from them and then settle on a career. EVE is a very detailed game (don’t think of it as hard) with a lot to learn about but it is internally consistent and reasonable.
Bookmark the EVE UNI wiki HERE. It is an incredibly valuable resource for a new player and unlike many other web sites they keep it all up to date. You will find basic ship load outs and tons of guides to help you learn the game from tanking damage to dealing it and just flying around. THIS is their tips and tricks page. I differ from them and say use EVE HQ to help plan character development and develop ship load outs you can fly because it is an all in one tool. THIS is a listing of some basic skills to consider working on early in your career.
I also suggest you download THIS pdf guide for additional information.
PS: DON'T be afraid of EVE. You are going to win some. You are going to lose some. It's a game. Have fun with it. Explore what it has to offer rather than hiding in the shadows.
The first things to do if are going to start playing EVE are:
1) Read. Read a lot about the game first. Find the career guide that CCP puts out to see what kinds of "careers" there are in the game, and then pick whatever interests you. More than any other MMO in existence, and I mean this, EVE is a game where knowledge is power. What you don't know WILL kill you. Make it your job to know what you can about the game, especially if it effects your "career" path.
2) Go watch some videos on youtube that deal with the career that you've chosen. Mining may sound awesome when you're reading about it, but it's also extremely slow paced and many find it boring for that reason. Others find they have time to watch movies and do homework while mining and it suits them perfectly well. Either way, watching a few videos about your chosen career will give you an idea of what you'll be doing.
3) Hyper focus. Find one thing that you want to do and hyper focus on it for a while until you're good at it. Remmeber that with almost nine years of training there are hundreds, if not thousands, of people that can already do whatever job you pick much better than you. In order to be good at something, you'll have to focus on it for a while. I would especially take this to heart when picking which race to use. If you try to do too many things at once as a new EVE pilot, then you'll just be shitty at a bunch of things instead of good at one or two things.
4) If it sounds too good to be true, then it is. This applies to every aspect of EVE from PVP to simply buying something on contracts.
5) Lastly, and most importantly are the double rules of EVE: Never fly anything that you can't afford to lose. Never fly anything that you can't fit properly. If you can't afford to lose it, then fly something cheaper until you can. If you have empty module slots on your ship, ESPECIALLY mids and lows, then you're doing it wrong. No slot should ever be empty (that's not what she said) unless you are a two week old character in your first frigate running lvl 1 missions.
6) Lastly for real this time; Join a corporation very quickly. Especially try to find one of the many noob friendly corporations like EVE University which specializes in training new players.
I started playing eve at february 2013.
My ship was destroyed once with no reason by a player. I didnt have any other pvp conflict... i'm living in high sec systems (1.0 to 0.5).
Don't be affraid, most people in eve wants to help and you will find friends that will support you and answer your doubts.
Chose your career and focus on it.
And ofc read a lot, ask a lot, this is a hard game but not impossible... every day you will learn something new and this is good.
Safe travels!
Any contract you see linked in a local channel is a scam.
I recommend messing around with a few different races on a trial account and pick one you like. People will say one is so much better than others but they all have good ships for both pve and pvp.
A good fight is one where the victor limps off in structure. Risk averse stuff designed to put more numbers on your killboard safely isn't actually fun.
Isk is meant to be spent on spaceship explosions in glorious combat.
You will lose your first frigate/dessie/cruiser/bc//bs. Insure them. Do it.
Playng with bros makes the grindy bits of the game actually fun.
It's generally better to specialize fairly early on. Find a profession you like and stick with it. Training placed there will pay off more quickly in earning potential than spreading yourself out.
You're ready to go into low-sec and null-sec when you want to go there, but you'll need to know how to use your directional scanner as well as f10 map-star map-stars-statistics-ships/pods destroyed in last hour to avoid camped gates.
Be Zen. Your possessions are just illusion. You will lose them all in the long run. Don't worry about their loss, spend them well in pursuit of fun.
Goonswarm doesn't recruit from ingame, though they do an awful lot of recruitment scamming.
Seriously, learn to your your directional scanner and your f10 map statistics to get info so you're not jumping blind.
After you've earned enough isk to fit a cruiser and a frigate for pvp, join the "RvB Ganked" player channel and go on one of the roams. It's always a fun time, get on the mumble for it though, and don't jump the gate when you shouldn't.
I dunno why people are talking about staying out of .5 or lower. .5 is still in highsec, and concord will still respond. Any competent ganker who wants you dead will do the math and bring enough ships to kill you with, whether you're in .5 and concord has a slow response time or in 1.0 with concord in a few seconds. Concord is like actual police, they don't prevent murder, they punish them.
Or don't, its a tactic used by wannabee pirates to gank newbies.. trust no-one, and find a corp asp, that way you have advice on tap, and quite often they can help out with isk/ships etc. The important thing is to find a good Corp.
READ EVERYTHING
Oh and don't bot, botter are "insert nasty word here for cheater"
Apparently, as you can see its been a while. So what did they do with the SP for people who invested in those?
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
As I recall it they just removed them, and bumped everyones base stats.
Maybe they let you add the skill points whereever you wanted.. and I just spent them so fast I forgot.....
-Don't be stupid
-Don't be scared
biggest tip is if your starting out is get a invite from a current player they can give you a 21 day free trial susbscribe for a month and then you have 51 days for the cost of one month
on ships and skills choice
i would choose a ship anything up to battleship and train towards that getting all relevent skills needed
rougly in a month you can fly a battleship and in two months you can be quite good in it somwhere around the 4-6 week mark you should be good enough to fly lvl 3/4 missions and make a bit of isk
and i would only concentrate get skills to fly my choosen ship for the first two/three months and this would be my fall back ship
personaly for me missile and drone ships where easier to train than gun ships
so if i was starting out tomorrow
not wanting not to waste skill points and have a reasonably good ship in a month or so i would head for a drake
the only problem with the drake is everyone flys them so you will be part of the crowd but they are cheap, tough and have reasonably good firepower just a bit slow
normaly in pvp you see loads of these drakes
they are also easy to play plus the skills needed to fly the drake and use the missle launchers are skills that are needed
to fly the frigates and crusiers which you need to fly on the way to the drake
so a noob player a drake is a good choice to head for but like anything its all a matter of what you want to do but thats what i would do
Dont undock in somthing you cant afford to loose.
Rememeber to have fun.
They removed learning skills from the game and refunded the points to every and all players who had trained them. Those skill points can be placed on any skill you wish.
I had all of them trained to lvl 5 so I had quite a few SP's to place wherever I wanted.
Also, there are now quite a few "must have" skills in the game especially if you PVP such as Armor Honeycombing and the four new sensor skills which boost your ships sensor strength against ECM. That's where I would put my points if I was to return to the game today.
It's been a while since my time in space, but EVE University was one of the more recommended corps to join when starting out. They teach all aspects of EVE to new players.
http://www.eveuniversity.org/
Another site thats of interest is "What to do in EVE Online."
http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Otherwise, enjoy your time in space, and if you don't think that everyone can be potentially hostile, you're not being paranoid enough. It's very much the adage of seeing new places, meeting new people, and having a plan to kill them all (or run away because they're trying to kill you.)
Put all your training Into this. Be a specialist not a generalist. Being a generalist is for the vets only.
Make backups
Bank often
Don't be afraid to go low sec to make money, just remember the bank often rule.
Avoid null sec until you have a good corp behind you.
just think like you would in the real world.
It isn't that bad, I think the WOW community is 100000x worse for example.
But yes, take in mind you're never 100% safe, and when you think spying and sabotaging+stealing is allowed you might want to think twice if you hand over 99% of your stuff to that new player in your corp who says he can haul it for you to some other place for free.
It's like the real world: you manage to get good friends and maintain friendships yet if you leave your front door open unattended, bad things can happen.
Many players will want to help you and play with you, and many players want your stuff.
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
Try lots of things
Dont lsiten to the haters
Find a group of like-minded players
Check out EVE University for help and advice
Gaming since Avalon Hill was making board games.
Played SWG, EVE, Fallen Earth, LOTRO, Rift, Vanguard, WoW, SWTOR, TSW, Tera
Tried Aoc, Aion, EQII, RoM, Vindictus, Darkfail, DDO, GW, PotBS
Find a good corp. Then focus on all your gametime on the corp and pvp. This is the only way to get the best out of eve. Solo gameplay is as mindnumbing as asian grinders.
And dont stick in empire too long, its full or immature kiddies and wannave pvpers. Eve is about nullsec.
No fate but what we make, so make me a ham sandwich please.
^he couldn't be more wrong.
-try to find out hwat you want in this game, building/trading/hauling/pvp/spying/leading etc etc
-specialize your skills to support your goal.
-do find other player,s socialize, playing solo makes many players quit fast.
-highsec/lowsec empire is filled with all kinds of players, nullsec is more unforgiving as everything goes.
Eve is not about nullsec, I get better pvp in wormholes and lowsec then I get when roaming in nullsec or do the big wars in nullsec.
-immature players are everywhere, from starting building corps in highsec to nullsec "veterans".
You would be surprized how many immature players dwell in nullsec, in fact too many leaderships in nullsec corps/alliances are filled with them as they are usually on powertrips thinking they can control everyone else.
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
Hello,
don´t fly into null-sec. It´s dangerous.
Cheers,
Doc B