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Sandbox that is no a gankfast

drakesevendrakeseven SPosts: 3Member
Someone can recommend me a sandbox without gankfest PVP. I'm tired of EVE.

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  • HorusraHorusra maryland, MDPosts: 2,579Member Uncommon
    I do not think there is one.
  • KarahandrasKarahandras Sible HedinghamPosts: 1,673Member Uncommon
    There's ryzom(or maybe ultima, but never played that one so not sure myself), but most go for the full loot pvp gankfest model tbh.  There are some in the works that may do, but since they're in the works u can't be too certain as to how they'll end up.
  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    Uo
    Wakfu
    Perpetuum (sort of, its pvp driven, simmilar to eve, but instead of hisec it has 100% pve areas)
  • MukeMuke BredaPosts: 2,168Member Uncommon

    I bet you have been doing alliance PVP in EVE only, yes, those are gank fests.

    Unless:
    -you join real pvp alliances which like to fight outnumbered and win (yes, they are there and I am luckily part of it)
    -you could have done lowsec pvp and pick your fights.

    "going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"

  • eye_meye_m Notta Chance, ABPosts: 3,133Member Uncommon
    isn't ganking and that type of behavior what makes a sandbox?  I'm sure I read here somewhere that if the game didn't have a way for one person to ruin someone else's enjoyment, that it wasn't a sandbox.

    All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

    I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.

    I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.

  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    Well you can have economy problems with a pvp free sandbox. Whales hoarding everything and what have you.
  • WolfenprideWolfenpride San''doria, WIPosts: 3,988Member

    Ryzom

    Istaria

    Wakfu

    Fallen Earth possibly

    Age of Wushu possibly

     

     

  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    Should point out wakfu does have ffa pvp. But you can avoid it by not going where its flagged, its simmilar to post trammel uo in that regard.
  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Den HelderPosts: 9,064Member Uncommon
    Because as soon as there are gaming mechanismes in place to prevent or punish ganking, its no longer considered a sandbox by the SB crew.

    Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  • MukeMuke BredaPosts: 2,168Member Uncommon
    RL warfare is usually 'ganking' of 1 side in the conflict, in games sandboxes allow it otherwise they are indeed fixed matches.

    "going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"

  • fantasyfreak112fantasyfreak112 Orange County, CAPosts: 499Member
    Sadly many fans think that a sandbox is = the ability to easily grief other players.
  • dalewjdalewj woburn, MAPosts: 86Member Uncommon
    if your willing to put up with a growing MMO try www.afterworld.ru.  Its been around for 7 years and jsut went thru a new engine change and is still in the growing phase.   Decent but small community.

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  • eisenryueisenryu Acworth, GAPosts: 157Member
    Originally posted by fantasyfreak112
    Sadly many fans think that a sandbox is = the ability to easily grief other players.

    Why I would never! Sandbox obviously = ability to easily grief other players AND take their shit.

    Get your facts straight.

    World of Warcraft is the original creation of God. Real Life is in fact a WoW clone.

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  • TkyleTkyle Lebanon, OHPosts: 32Member Uncommon

     Why is it when someone talks about a sandbox it always turns into a PvP post? When you look up Sandbox this is what it is, not just pvp.

    An open world is a type of video game level design where a player can roam freely through a virtual world and is given considerable freedom in choosing how or when to approach objectives.[1] The term "free roam" is also used, as is "sandbox" and "free-roaming".[2][3] "Open world" and "free-roaming" suggest the absence of artificial barriers,[4] in contrast to the invisible walls and loading screens that are common in linear level designs. An "open world" game does not necessarily imply a sandbox. In a true "sandbox", the player has tools to modify the world themselves and create how they play.[5] Generally open world games still enforce some restrictions in the game environment, either due to absolute technical limitations or in-game limitations (such as locked areas) imposed by a game's linearity.

  • tarodintarodin canovellesPosts: 98Member Uncommon
    I suggest you vanguard saga of heroes... you can try for free
  • MukeMuke BredaPosts: 2,168Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Tkyle

     Why is it when someone talks about a sandbox it always turns into a PvP post? When you look up Sandbox this is what it is, not just pvp.

    Because a modern MMO has PVE+PVP in it -players will always ask for pvp if it's not in the game, look at EQ2 after launch- and the main problem with sandboxes with PVP is the fact that players accept the benefits, not the downsides -getting ganked at inconvenient moments- .

     

     

    "going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"

  • TkyleTkyle Lebanon, OHPosts: 32Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Muke
    Originally posted by Tkyle

     Why is it when someone talks about a sandbox it always turns into a PvP post? When you look up Sandbox this is what it is, not just pvp.

    Because a modern MMO has PVE+PVP in it -players will always ask for pvp if it's not in the game, look at EQ2 after launch- and the main problem with sandboxes with PVP is the fact that players accept the benefits, not the downsides -getting ganked at inconvenient moments- .

     

     

      Wasn't SWG's a sandbox and somehow avoided the whole gank mess? If I remember, it had nice pvp in it but without worrying about that. You was able to choose when and how you wanted to pvp. Just can't see why every sandbox now has to be forced pvp, there are other options.

  • GreenHellGreenHell ludlow, MAPosts: 1,322Member Uncommon
    Yea, SWG had the best way of dealing with PvP. There were still large scale crazy battles but unless you were flagged you didn't get ganked.
  • General-ZodGeneral-Zod Zod, CAPosts: 743Member Uncommon
    PvP flagging is only implemented for mmo's that are originally designed for PvE...

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  • TheocritusTheocritus Gary, INPosts: 3,734Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by eyelolled
    isn't ganking and that type of behavior what makes a sandbox?  I'm sure I read here somewhere that if the game didn't have a way for one person to ruin someone else's enjoyment, that it wasn't a sandbox.

     haha so very true

  • OnomasOnomas Rock Hill, SCPosts: 1,128Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Theocritus
    Originally posted by eyelolled
    isn't ganking and that type of behavior what makes a sandbox?  I'm sure I read here somewhere that if the game didn't have a way for one person to ruin someone else's enjoyment, that it wasn't a sandbox.

     haha so very true

    This is total BS!

    Sandbox has nothing to do with open world pvp or ganking. And many people misuse the word gank and do not know its actual meaning. 2 very bad misconceptions people hear on these forums.

    In actuality many sandbox games have very limited pvp, some dont have pvp at all. PVP and ganking has nothing to do with what a sandbox truely is.

    Example of a sandbox not having any pvp whatsoever : a tale from the desert

    I would give more examples but its kind of hard to educate people that have no clue what a sandbox is about or the actual meaning of gank/ganked/ganking.

     

  • bosmer24bosmer24 boise, IDPosts: 114Member
    I don't know if this has been suggested but Wurm Online has quite a few PVE servers.
  • DistopiaDistopia Baltimore, MDPosts: 16,903Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Tkyle
    Originally posted by Muke
    Originally posted by Tkyle

     Why is it when someone talks about a sandbox it always turns into a PvP post? When you look up Sandbox this is what it is, not just pvp.

    Because a modern MMO has PVE+PVP in it -players will always ask for pvp if it's not in the game, look at EQ2 after launch- and the main problem with sandboxes with PVP is the fact that players accept the benefits, not the downsides -getting ganked at inconvenient moments- .

     

     

      Wasn't SWG's a sandbox and somehow avoided the whole gank mess? If I remember, it had nice pvp in it but without worrying about that. You was able to choose when and how you wanted to pvp. Just can't see why every sandbox now has to be forced pvp, there are other options.

    For the most part after TEF's, out in the world when TEF's existed you could place faction sensors, which made you overt (attackable) many a gank was handled this way in faction cities, mostly on noobs, who didn't realize they existed. Also if you attacked a faction NPC it made you attackable to players. Or if you were grouped with a person who did.

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