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Is darkfall worth playing as a solo player?

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  • GreymoorGreymoor Member UncommonPosts: 802
    Originally posted by Hancakes
    Originally posted by luvboox
    Originally posted by Hancakes
    Originally posted by luvboox
    I think it could be fun playing solo if you are smart about it. You would have to be really careful, but the danger is an added element for some people. The nice thing is that the grind is much, much better, so it won't require nearly as much time as DF1 did to be PvP viable.

    And solo PvP is viable! image

    Um, yes? I'm not saying you can face-roll every group of 50 people you come across, but you can certainly take out single people or groups of two or three if you are smart. How is that not PvP viable?

    Part of the trick of good PvP is knowing when to fight, not just how. I get the feeling that you think PvP is either 1) a Zerg, or 2) an OP class with an I WIN button. Don't rage at a game because you can't run around by yourself facerolling everyone in your path.

     

    You have no idea what youre talking about in regards to my thoughts on PvP.

    Anyway... Going out solo on a a character geared via solo play is largely a waste of time.  There are simply too many ways to break an engagement in DFUW.

    I think your argument is disproved by the plethora of solo-pvp videos that have been released since the NDA drop. Ofc going solo isn't for everyone though.

  • HancakesHancakes Member Posts: 1,045
    Originally posted by Greymoor
    Originally posted by Hancakes
    Originally posted by luvboox
    Originally posted by Hancakes
    Originally posted by luvboox
    I think it could be fun playing solo if you are smart about it. You would have to be really careful, but the danger is an added element for some people. The nice thing is that the grind is much, much better, so it won't require nearly as much time as DF1 did to be PvP viable.

    And solo PvP is viable! image

    Um, yes? I'm not saying you can face-roll every group of 50 people you come across, but you can certainly take out single people or groups of two or three if you are smart. How is that not PvP viable?

    Part of the trick of good PvP is knowing when to fight, not just how. I get the feeling that you think PvP is either 1) a Zerg, or 2) an OP class with an I WIN button. Don't rage at a game because you can't run around by yourself facerolling everyone in your path.

     

    You have no idea what youre talking about in regards to my thoughts on PvP.

    Anyway... Going out solo on a a character geared via solo play is largely a waste of time.  There are simply too many ways to break an engagement in DFUW.

    I think you're argument is disproved by the plethora of solo-pvp videos that have been released since the NDA drop. Ofc going solo isn't for everyone though.

    Those "solo" player videos aren't wearing gear obtained by solo play.    Next....

     

    Going out solo and playing the entire game solo/alone aren't the same thing. image

  • GreymoorGreymoor Member UncommonPosts: 802
    Originally posted by Hancakes
    Originally posted by Greymoor
    Originally posted by Hancakes
    Originally posted by luvboox
    Originally posted by Hancakes
    Originally posted by luvboox
    I think it could be fun playing solo if you are smart about it. You would have to be really careful, but the danger is an added element for some people. The nice thing is that the grind is much, much better, so it won't require nearly as much time as DF1 did to be PvP viable.

    And solo PvP is viable! image

    Um, yes? I'm not saying you can face-roll every group of 50 people you come across, but you can certainly take out single people or groups of two or three if you are smart. How is that not PvP viable?

    Part of the trick of good PvP is knowing when to fight, not just how. I get the feeling that you think PvP is either 1) a Zerg, or 2) an OP class with an I WIN button. Don't rage at a game because you can't run around by yourself facerolling everyone in your path.

     

    You have no idea what youre talking about in regards to my thoughts on PvP.

    Anyway... Going out solo on a a character geared via solo play is largely a waste of time.  There are simply too many ways to break an engagement in DFUW.

    I think you're argument is disproved by the plethora of solo-pvp videos that have been released since the NDA drop. Ofc going solo isn't for everyone though.

    Those "solo" player videos aren't wearing gear obtained by solo play.    Next....

     

    Going out solo and playing the entire game solo/alone aren't the same thing. image

    Playing by yourself doesn't mean you can't craft or purchase gear. Next...

  • HancakesHancakes Member Posts: 1,045
    Originally posted by Greymoor
    Originally posted by Hancakes
    Originally posted by Greymoor
    Originally posted by Hancakes
    Originally posted by luvboox
    Originally posted by Hancakes
    Originally posted by luvboox
    I think it could be fun playing solo if you are smart about it. You would have to be really careful, but the danger is an added element for some people. The nice thing is that the grind is much, much better, so it won't require nearly as much time as DF1 did to be PvP viable.

    And solo PvP is viable! image

    Um, yes? I'm not saying you can face-roll every group of 50 people you come across, but you can certainly take out single people or groups of two or three if you are smart. How is that not PvP viable?

    Part of the trick of good PvP is knowing when to fight, not just how. I get the feeling that you think PvP is either 1) a Zerg, or 2) an OP class with an I WIN button. Don't rage at a game because you can't run around by yourself facerolling everyone in your path.

     

    You have no idea what youre talking about in regards to my thoughts on PvP.

    Anyway... Going out solo on a a character geared via solo play is largely a waste of time.  There are simply too many ways to break an engagement in DFUW.

    I think you're argument is disproved by the plethora of solo-pvp videos that have been released since the NDA drop. Ofc going solo isn't for everyone though.

    Those "solo" player videos aren't wearing gear obtained by solo play.    Next....

     

    Going out solo and playing the entire game solo/alone aren't the same thing. image

    Playing by yourself doesn't mean you can't craft or purchase gear. Next...

    LOL sure, maybe in 6 months. image

  • luvbooxluvboox Member Posts: 87
    Greymoor, we're going to have to give up. Hancakes owned us on this discussion. Clearly, you CAN NOT play DFUO as a solo player and have a good time, or win any PvP encounters. His arguments are too forceful for me.
  • MyownGodMyownGod Member UncommonPosts: 205
    There's plenty of douche bags that play solo, going around for an easy pk targetting people who is PVE-ing and completely naked whilst gathering. But you can only go so far, I'd say its not worth it if you want to play solo. You'll be missing the sieges and etc with your clan mates.
  • Mors.MagneMors.Magne Member UncommonPosts: 1,549

    I used to play DF1 solo. It was quite enjoyable.

    I used to look at the Darkfall map and carefully plan what I was going to do.

    You won't get the very best kit in the game doing this, but you probably won't need the best kit anyway. You make stuff that does the job.

    I did it for the exploration, feeling like a survivor, and the adrenaline rush on the rare occasion that I was found and chased.

    I only got ganked a handful of times. The trick is to turn the music off and turn the environmental sounds up high over your headphones so you can hear people approach. Keep your back to the wall or sea if you can.

  • MegaD61MegaD61 Member Posts: 59
    You can play DFUW solo. It is a challence that is for sure tho.  I would recommend running as a skimisher due to your ability to get away from zergs in lots of situations.  Also I love my skirm as I can come across 2 groups fighting. Scroatch some good gear and get out of there without anyone even noticing.
  • HairysunHairysun Member UncommonPosts: 1,059

    Solo play is as viable in DFUW as is was in DF.  It just takes some preparation.  Start out leveling up some crafting skills and putting together grab bags.  Bags that have everything you need to keep going when you get rolled.  Die, lose all your stuff, grab a bag from the bank and your set again.

     

    I used to run around with two mounts in my bags so if one got shot out from under me I could just pop another to continue an escape.  I think escape options are the key. What was a nice and fair 1 on 1 or 1 on 2 quickly turns into a 1 on 5 or 1 on 10 due to ventrillo.  You attack someone and they call their friends ..... it is how it usually worked.  Get in and get out, it is the way to survive solo in DF.

     

    Just put on your thick skin and give it a go.  Best way to learn is to just go out and see what works and what doesn't.  Just be prepared to lose all your stuff when you die.  Shake it off and try again ..... one lucrative kill can easily offset multiple deaths.

     

     

     

     

  • Mors.MagneMors.Magne Member UncommonPosts: 1,549
    Originally posted by MegaD61
    You can play DFUW solo. It is a challence that is for sure tho.  I would recommend running as a skimisher due to your ability to get away from zergs in lots of situations.  Also I love my skirm as I can come across 2 groups fighting. Scroatch some good gear and get out of there without anyone even noticing.

    The problem is that zergs are all on mounts. Therefore, it doesn't matter what class you are - the important thing is to get on your mount and travel to a safe area ASAP.

     

    If you're on foot as a skirmisher, the cavalry should catch up to you fairly quickly.

     

    The main use of a skirmisher seems to be to catch players with their pants down while collecting resources.

     

    The problem with specialising as a skirmisher is that warriors hold the battlefield, so I'm not sure how useful they are in the important battles.

  • CaldrinCaldrin Member UncommonPosts: 4,505
    Originally posted by cm01

    I played Darkfall 1 from launch, although I played mostly solo, I power gamed the hell out of it and would spend basically all day every day playing it and so I did well.  I played with my partner and clan a little .If I go into Darkfall this time it'll be completely solo, and I'm too busy with life to put so much time into it this time around.

    I'd like to know if it's worth playing as a solo player. I know it contains a lot of stuff for guilds and guild fights and players tend to fare better in groups. am I just wasting my time trying to play it solo?

     

    Well being as its an MMO your suppose to play with other people.. you can run around solo if you want its now a lot easier as there are 100% safe zones.. but still out in the real would you will get stomped on by groups or by people woh have played more than you.

     

  • Mors.MagneMors.Magne Member UncommonPosts: 1,549
    Originally posted by Caldrin
    Originally posted by cm01

    I played Darkfall 1 from launch, although I played mostly solo, I power gamed the hell out of it and would spend basically all day every day playing it and so I did well.  I played with my partner and clan a little .If I go into Darkfall this time it'll be completely solo, and I'm too busy with life to put so much time into it this time around.

    I'd like to know if it's worth playing as a solo player. I know it contains a lot of stuff for guilds and guild fights and players tend to fare better in groups. am I just wasting my time trying to play it solo?

     

    Well being as its an MMO your suppose to play with other people.. you can run around solo if you want its now a lot easier as there are 100% safe zones.. but still out in the real would you will get stomped on by groups or by people woh have played more than you.

     

    You can play outside of the safe zones solo. If you're soloing, just stay out of the centre of the map - keep to the edges.

    PvPers seem to gravitate towards the mainland because they are looking for a high concentration of people with the certainty of PvP.

  • UzikUzik Member UncommonPosts: 281

    This is a video of me going through n00b feats SOLO.

    http://youtu.be/j4-XoYt-84U

    If you go towards the end you will see that I got some nice rewards.  I'll continue to make videos of me SOLO advancing my character.

     

    (Uzik ibnYaraq in game. Always willing to help.)
    http://www.youtube.com/user/UzikAlJhamin

  • AzdulAzdul Member UncommonPosts: 440

    If you already have experience, stash of gear and developed char, you can play solo, and win PvP encounters.

    But I wouldn't recommend playing solo to any newbie. In the beginning it's better to have greater numbers on your side - otherwise the DF experience is just too harsh.

  • retiredmjretiredmj Member UncommonPosts: 160
    No penalty for PKing?  Sounds more like an MMOFPS than MMORPG
  • BigHatLoganBigHatLogan Member Posts: 688
    Originally posted by retiredmj
    No penalty for PKing?  Sounds more like an MMOFPS than MMORPG

     

    Penalties for pking are lame.  Why should the game punish a player for winning a fight?  They should be rewarded, and in DFUW they are, in the form of loot.  Losers are punished because they get looted.  They should be punished because they lost, players shouldn't be rewarded for failing. 

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  • VarrusRoyalVarrusRoyal Member Posts: 1

    Basically, no.

     

    You can play, and you will progress, but the main problem is that it simply won't be fun.  Gains will be slower, and you'll suffer freqent lonley deaths.

     

    With that said, playing in a guild is very fun.  Even farming mobs can become fun with player interaction, coupled with prowess gains that you can strategically allocate into skills and attributes just like Asheron's Call 1.

  • fantasyfreak112fantasyfreak112 Member Posts: 499
    I think the better question is: is any MMO worth playing as a solo player?
  • BadaboomBadaboom Member UncommonPosts: 2,380
    Originally posted by fantasyfreak112
    I think the better question is: is any MMO worth playing as a solo player?

    That depends on what your goals are.  The great thing with Darkfall is the one character per account rule.  A solo player can make a name for himself, for the good or bad.  However, all of the names worth knowing right now are all currently in clans.  That doesn't mean that it cannot happen though.

  • xxtriadxxxxtriadxx Member UncommonPosts: 155

    You say you played DarkFall quite a bit Solo....If you did that then this is basically the same thing..

     

    If you're an experienced MMO solo player this game's only "hard" part is the fact that open PvP..

    Otherwise it has many solo friendly features the most obvious being this is a Crafter PvP game..You can make anything you wnat or need, use it yourself..and eveyrone you meet either made or bought theirs too.

     

  • HotjazzHotjazz Member UncommonPosts: 742
    Originally posted by cm01

    I played Darkfall 1 from launch, although I played mostly solo, I power gamed the hell out of it and would spend basically all day every day playing it and so I did well.  I played with my partner and clan a little .If I go into Darkfall this time it'll be completely solo, and I'm too busy with life to put so much time into it this time around.

    I'd like to know if it's worth playing as a solo player. I know it contains a lot of stuff for guilds and guild fights and players tend to fare better in groups. am I just wasting my time trying to play it solo?

     

    I don`t understand why you don`t want a clan.

     

    When you solo as a clanmember (yes you can do that), you got player citys you can use. You can (if you want) join sieges and ship battles. If your clan is part of an alliance, there are less randoms that wants to kill you. If you need better gear, your clan will support you.

     

    There is no clan things you are force to do if you don`t want to.

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