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Originally posted by Trionicus Originally posted by h0urg1ass I'm going to buck the trend here and say that, yes, I would like to see one of these games shut down and disappear and that would be SWTOR. There won't be another, competing, SW MMO on the market as long as one already exists. It doesn't make sense to have an IP competing with itself. With the utter pile of garbage called SWTOR out of the way, then maybe work can begin on a SW MMO that doesn't reek.
At first I was going to say that EVEN I, the consumate hater, wouldn't want to see any mmo shut down. I was then going to continue on to say that I did wish that SWTOR wasn't a huge success because I didn't want to see other games follow their weak game mechanics and I got my wish.
HOWEVER! You make a seriously solid point. I do like the StarWars IP AND I also follow your line of thinking therefore, SWTOR must go if we are to see a better StarWars game on the MMO market any time soon. Sad to say, especially since people would lose their jobs but maybe they could just get...you know, shuffled over. Not a fan of who ever made the gameplay concept decisions though, THAT dude can eat it.
I disagree with this. SWTOR was in development for years while SWG was running. SOE had the chance to pay to renew their license and opted not to. That's also discounting the fact that a few games based on the same IP have coexisted, not the least of which is EQ which is soon to have not two but three incarnations live at the same time. If anything, I'd expect TOR's complete failure along with SWG's descent would scare any pennywise publisher from making another Star Wars game anytime soon.
On-topic, no, there's no game that I would like to see shutting down.
Originally posted by dancingstar Originally posted by h0urg1ass I'm going to buck the trend here and say that, yes, I would like to see one of these games shut down and disappear and that would be SWTOR. There won't be another, competing, SW MMO on the market as long as one already exists. It doesn't make sense to have an IP competing with itself. With the utter pile of garbage called SWTOR out of the way, then maybe work can begin on a SW MMO that doesn't reek.
Thing is, if SWTOR does shut down, what are the rights holders & potential devs going to conclude -- that people want SWG or something like it instead, or that making a big-budget Star Wars MMORPG is not a worthwhile investment?
(and it's Star Wars, Disney won't let some indie studio on a shoestring budget touch it)
I kind of feel a similar way about LOTRO -- I don't like what Turbine did with the IP, but if it does crash and burn, or simply doesn't get the license renewed, I consider it unlikely that a game that I would personally consider a better use of the Middle-Earth setting would get funded, licensed and made (and that's even assuming the current Tolkien-Warner lawsuit doesn't end up with a ruling that Zaentz don't hold the rights to license online games at all).
I swear to god if LOTRO would have touched on it's PVP it would have 2x or 3x it's population. They are either too stupid or bullheaded and it saddens me. Alot of people would sub to LOTRO if the PVP would be fixed and they would do like they do in other games, enjoy PVE as a side-game.
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lol ... why all the hate of games. If you don't like the game, don't play it and play something else.
There are many games i don't care about ... but i don't care enough to "want to see them shutting down".
Originally posted by jesteralways it is obvious which one will get most vote : WoW.
ofcourse. that was quite obvious. the fun thing is it wont happen for many many years to come lol.
just wondering, are MMO player numbers still on the rise?
With countless titles coming up, and who knows what's next for 2015-2018, the market is probably not sustainable.
I wouldn't LIKE to see any game shutdown, especially if they still have an active playerbase. I know exactly what it's like to have a MMO you play shut down on you, it sucks.
Now, if it's to be shutdown, remade and redistributed, that is different entirely. If that was the case, then I'd love to see WAR closed down, fixed up, and redistributed as a B2P or F2P title.
Originally posted by Yakamomoto just wondering, are MMO player numbers still on the rise? With countless titles coming up, and who knows what's next for 2015-2018, the market is probably not sustainable.
'player numbers' can't be tracked due to f2p and the ability to create multiple accounts. but P2P subscriptions are in a slight decline as seen in last year's MMODATA update.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Why on earth would i want that one of these should be shut down?
If others wanne play them i realy dont care its there money and time not mine.
Its bad asking which ones should be shut down, im first and formost a game fan so shutting down games becouse i dont like them is realy bad way of thinking.
Should we remove everything we don't like in life, i ask you?
Originally posted by AlBQuirky Originally posted by Wizardry Originally posted by Grunch WHy would anyone want a game shut down? What do I have to gain by having a game I don't play shut down? Instead I would rather have EA and perhaps SOE banned from making anymore mmo games.
It is like saying..."Oh well my neighbour's house is getting robbed,but it doesn't concern me,so i don't care".
Imagine some people might be wasting their money and time on a game that might very well shut down before they realize the whole game.
TIME is MUCH more valuable than money,any time you invest that might be lost before you are ready,can feel like a huge let down.
I can use an example >>>TAbula Rasa.How many people invested time expecting to playout the game,then realize their time spent was wasted.
How many people followed and read every article on Dark N Light ,for maybe a year or more,to finally realize NO GAME,they wasted al lthat time following that game.
There are also many people who build Guild webpages and coordinate theri guilds structure and run everyday events.Imagine they put in al lthat effort and the game folds?
"Allowing" someone else to play (and enjoy) a game you do not like equates to watching a neighbor get robbed. I cannot even begin to educate you on the many, many fallacies here.
You think you are the "Mother" to every gamer out there? You have shouldered the responsibility to save everyone who has different tastes than you from their folly. Oh joy...
What other aspects of life do you wish to save everyone else from, since you seem to know what is best for everyone? If someone wants to pay $200 for a pair of sneakers, do you run up and slap their hand for their folly? Maybe mention the many starving children in China? (Are there massive amounts of starving children in China?)
I show I "care" about other people by letting them enjoy what they want, spend their money how they desire, and not dictate to them what is "best for them."
If someone is enjoying a game, they decide if it is worth it or not, not you. Please, get a grip.
...Edit on second thought.. lol I'm very confused by his reply now, I can't tell what he's actually saying.
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Why the frak would any gamer be so riddiculously stupid and wanting to shut down any MMO ?
The good old saying that applies here is "The more, the merrier". Thats especially true in a market like MMOs. Because more concurrence means better conditions for any gamer, even if you dont play that game.
I dont really like that Vanguard turned f2p, which is another consequence out of this, but the subscription is actually getting cheaper, not more expensive. That wouldnt happen if there wouldnt be so much concurrence.
And I dont mind games like WoW. People who play WoW stay away from other games. From all I hear about WoW, that saves me from a ton of immature kiddos in my own game. So whats the issue ?
Originally posted by rojo6934 none of those games deserve to shut down. However, They all need to improve and break the cycle of being generic. Obviously GW2 started to breake that cycle. Someone else (and them as well) has to continue further breaking that cycle
Just for the record, GW2 didnt do anything. They just made GW1 more like a MMO, and supported the current fashion of people opposing the Trinity, with the consequence that GW2 combat is inferior to GW1 combat.
Originally posted by FromHell not losing their jobs, but maybe to make room for something new and better.. perhaps even by the same company? Who knows...
I play Vanguard.
Okay, thats basically already all that needs to be said, but for people who dont get it:
There is no successor to Vanguard available, not even at the most distant horizont. Nobody wants to do a classic high quality MMO anymore. No other MMO in existence makes me want to actually play it. Many of these are just simplistic crap games that offer no challenge.
If Vanguard shuts down, I stop playing. Thats all.
Wow...what a thread.
Obvious answer isn't even voted on. Even though it plasters that background of this site and is a genuine POS game. Yet we have 10 pages talking about any other game...at all.
Well...the bimbos of the MMO world are even staring at you in disbelief
Variety is the spice of life as the saying goes, therefore, more the better so none need to be shut down as there is always a game that caters to everyones tastes.
A better poll/thread would be which new MMO would you like to be see made.
Oh, that's been done to death too. Never mind, i'm off to cook.
Originally posted by Xthos I don't want to see anything shut down, but out of selfish reasons, I wouldn't mind seeing TOR shut down, and maybe a better Star Wars MMO made, due to the void....But that is only if I had to pick one, don't want to see anyones game shut down that they enjoy.
I dont get your logic.
If TOS shuts down, that means TOR is no more. Thats all.
It doesnt mean that magically faries from an alternative universe appear and will give you a new Star Wars game, skipping over the at least 4 years that it requires to create any new game, and more like 6 or 7 years for a MMO.
If there would be a new Star Wars MMO underway, we will know about it. Of that you can be sure. Previously Lucas Arts and now Disney would rub it into our faces.
Originally posted by Scottgun Pirates of the Burning Sea. A valient effort, but it needs a mercy killing.
Its a SOE title. SOE never shuts down their MMOs unless they have a real population problem or they have to pay license for it.
Originally posted by lickm3 Tera ! reason : most unbalanced crap I've ever seen.
New MMOs are always unbalanced at first, though. As long as theres active developers, rebalancing is always an option.
Originally posted by coretex666 Who wants to see this thread shutting down
I want people to stop reading, writing, talking, hearing about Lindsay Lohan, because its really getting on my nerves and there is just nothing to say in the first place; she doesnt really do good movies anymore. If she does, go ahead and communicate about her, but until then please the freaking frak just shut up and talk about something, anything, actually relevant.
But this thread ? Just dont read it if you dont like it.
Originally posted by ZoeMcCloskey I don't want any game to shutdown. [...]
Its really funny how most poster here say that but the actual vote only gives 33% to this option.
Originally posted by eric1000 I voted for WoW simply because the death of that monster would finally signal the end of themepark MMO's ( hopefully forever )
I dont even know where to start.
Originally posted by Rhinotones None, and anyone on this gaming site who says otherwise should take a deep look at themself and really question their way of thinking. It can be likened to saying though In a more extreme context - I don't like you as a person therefore you should die.
Very well said.
Originally posted by BahamutKaiser I'd honestly like for Blizzard to fold, and be sold to a new owner who can make a new commitment to quality and respect for customers. It woln't happen, but it would be awesome if their @sshat execs screwed something up bad and got overthrown for their wanton greed and disrespectful practices.
Blizzard is another sad story of a developer who did good things (even if I myself didnt enjoyed their titles that much) and then fell into the wrong hands (i.e. the people who only care about profit).
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For scientific reasons, I would like to see what would happen, were WoW shut down. Would be interesting to see what those people would do and where they would possibly migrate, if anywhere at all. But then we'd need to follow everyone magically and interview them and so on, so, this wouldn't work.
But from my perspective as a gamer? Well, Scarlet Blade could go, if any would have to, that is.
We?re all dead, just say it.