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Originally posted by PWN_FACE When you consider buying a game, do you look into reviewer scores? How much weight do you give to meta-scores? I consider a lot of factors. I don't always consider such scores knowing they can be off for certain games that I might really like if I had given them a try. On the other hand, they can influence my decision to take a risk in certain situations. I've been looking at a game on Steam which had a metascore rating of 70 yesterday. I checked a little while ago and it's down to 67. How do you look at metascores when making your decisions about whether to buy or not? EDIT: Has there ever been a game that had a relatively low metascore (on Steam for example) that you bought and enjoyed and thought deserved better?
I pay no attention whatsoever to metascores. I have recently started ignoring game review scores as well, since I find them to be unreliable.
I may read some reviews and look at the scores, but usually make up my own mind. Some games with really high scores I know I wont like, and I have really enjoyed other games with lower scores.
But to answer the question I put very little weight to meta scores.
I don't have much to add that has not already been said. But, I will post a link towards contributing, to metacritics stated process for how they create their meta scores for peoples reference here: http://www.metacritic.com/about-metascores
And would like to be clear that Metascores are the intelectual property of CBS Interactive incorperated and come with the user rating (typically). That is to say that any site showing a metascore is sourcing them. Which also means this meta scoring is standardized accross various review sites that utilize it (they can't even legally say meta score if it is not a score from metacritic). And, that is just all to say that a meta scoring is not a generic term for rating a game that a given site may legally do on its own. But, proprietary to CBS service that doesn't (or at least shouldn't) differ from site to site that uses them.
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Absolutely nothing. There's only one reviewer I trust, and that's myself.
Edit: On second thought, I don't even trust myself sometimes lol.
I don't look at sites like metacritic or the like. If i hear of a game that might be entertaining I seek out videos of it's content that show the game from as many different angles as possible. However if a game is due to be out I usually find a way to get my hands on it before I buy it. I have a few friends that must have the newest games and be the first to dive into things so I use them to get at the games that I think have potential with no cost to me. I'll either go over and try it there, or have their "friend keys" and do it myself. The other option I have at my disposal is a fair number of internet cafe's in my city that have rabid fanbois who play all kinds of games. I can easily take 1 hour out of my life and go there and just have a look around. I find the best game reviewer are my eyes and ears when I see the product, and nothing is really stopping me from asking questions right there and then to have certain things demostrated to me.
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Reviews or metacritic scores have almost no bearing on my purchases.
Reviews are opinions, which are like assholes.
Metacritic scores are therefore just a bunch of assholes.
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Excepting the rare occasions when I'm convinced reviewers are wrong I won't buy anything below 80 or 4 user rate. No way in hell.
Same with movies, generally I find reviews are spot on my taste. Excepting a very small amount of the time.
That said, I'm still dissapointed with many things that get above 80, so I have to again be picky about what I want in that bracket.
Originally posted by PWN_FACE When you consider buying a game, do you look into reviewer scores? How much weight do you give to meta-scores? None, I really don't care about meta scores. I consider a lot of factors. I don't always consider such scores knowing they can be off for certain games that I might really like if I had given them a try. On the other hand, they can influence my decision to take a risk in certain situations. I know what type of games I like, however I do view or read reviews, some games I don't need info example tried to stay away from to much Biochock Infinity info. But the moment I heard about that game I already knew it would be a instant buy and will find out myself if I truly enjoy it. (And I sure do) If I'm on a threshold I try to wait for a demo or trail to play. I've been looking at a game on Steam which had a metascore rating of 70 yesterday. I checked a little while ago and it's down to 67. Ask yourself, do all those who play games enjoy the excact same things you enjoy? Same with those ratings. How do you look at metascores when making your decisions about whether to buy or not? As said I don't EDIT: Has there ever been a game that had a relatively low metascore (on Steam for example) that you bought and enjoyed and thought deserved better? Sorry since I don't look at metascore's hard to say.
OP i only give weight to metascores if it gives very high ratings to my precious. Otherwise i just brush it aside as being immature, un professional and waste of time.
What? why you looking at me like that? haven't you seen a hypocrite before?
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I only take reviews and metascores into consideration when I am on the fence about a game. I do the initial research and leg work first, try the game out with open betas, free trials, and or demos next, decide on whether I am truly interested or not, if I can't decide then and only then will I look at reviews and metascores from other players, if for some reason I am still undecided I may look at professional reviewers and their metascores.
So as far as weight and importance for me in order...
1) My own
2) Other players
3) Professional reviewers. These guys are the last place I look if I bother to look there when making my decision.
All the meta scores can gauge is the rough popularity of the game around launch. They do not convey how good a game is as I have played many games with awful scores that I absolutely loved, and there are many on there with 80+ whilst most people I know regard them as awful (FFXIII and D3 come to mind).
They're too often influenced by hype as well (including the negative backlash of an awful launch).
If the reviewer and user scores match up then there's a good chance the score is accurate but even then I wouldn't take it at face value because it makes no room for personal taste or subjective opinion.
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Originally posted by PWN_FACE When you consider buying a game, do you look into reviewer scores? How much weight do you give to meta-scores? Depends. If it is a new game that I do not know much about, I might look at the critic reviews to get an basic idea. Is it an 80-100 game or 50-79 game. I seldom spend many on the latter. However, before buying, I actually check some videos and read few reviews from reputable sites or from those reviewers I have agreed with in the past. I do not care about user ratings unless it is a completely new IP or from relatively unknown developer. How do you look at metascores when making your decisions about whether to buy or not? EDIT: Has there ever been a game that had a relatively low metascore (on Steam for example) that you bought and enjoyed and thought deserved better? I think the critic rating is often pretty good after you give more than few weeks for them to balance out. It does give a relatively good indication of the overall quality. If a game gets a really low score, I do want to test it prior to purchase. If it gets a really good score and is from a genre that I like, I might affect my buying decision more. I have seen games that I consider somewhat better and games I consider worse. This is usually within 10 to 15 points from the Metacritic score (again critic score, not user score).
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Places like Metacritic, I don't even bother looking at. I think the score there is worthless, far too many haters and/or fanboys trying to influence opinions there for any score to taken seriously.
I do read reviews at certain sites, but I tend not to place too high a value on those either. The problem with a lot of these sites is the fact that they depend a lot on revenue from advertising games. If they trash a game they run the risk of the dev/publisher pulling their adverts and by extension their cash. How many sites gave SWTOR great reviews?
If I can't get into a beta or play some form of trial version I ususally search Youtube for footage of the game, from character creation to gameplay, crafting, skills etc. Anything I can find really. There are also a few Youtube reviewers who's opinions I do value because we seem to share a similar taste in games, people like Total Biscuit for example.
At the end of the day you sometimes just have to take a chance and hope the game doesn't disappoint.
For a game that everyone has trashed that surprised me, Scarlet Blade jumps to mind most recently. There's been a lot of flak flying over this game and I tried it out to see what all the fuss was about. A fun game to my mind. It's not the best game ever but it's far from the worst, and given the shit that's been thrown at it I was quite surprised to find an actual game hiding under the gravity defying boobies.
The critics' metascore? Some weight. A very low rating does mean the game is bad, without exception really. But a high rating doesn't necessarily mean it's good - it certainly doesn't guarantee long-term appeal.
The users' metascore? Absolutely zero weight. If I wanted to know how heavily trolled a game was, or how zealous the fanboys were, then this would be a useful measure. But if I want to know how good the game is, it's completely and utterly useless.
Ultimately, though, it's pretty hard to sell me a game without a demo or trial; and if I've got a demo or trial, I don't really need the reviews.
am i supossed to do what metascore says? i never go to metacritic for assistance. The user scores and the site scores are most of the time day and night different which makes me think something is not right there. I personally find metacritic stuff more biased than other reviewers outside of it, specially when both user vs critics scores differ by a lot.
thats just me. i prefer other places for my gaming score fix
Without reviews a metascore gives you only a vague idea. It tells you about how well the hype as worked as much as how good the game is.
If you are using metacritic, check out the reviews, go for the middle ramge ones. Look at what the player reviews say and how they say it.
Basing purchase on anything other than a solid all round review approach is asking for trouble.
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I personally don't give it much weight.
I tend to read reviewers that has similar tastes to mine (TotalBiscuit / Greg Miller etc) and go from there.
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