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Originally posted by JasonJ Originally posted by Distopia This is what bugs me, I'm not excited by the notion of a doac 2 by any stretch, what I want is TES style questing, lore, etcc.. That I can experience with friends, I'll PVP in sandbox games or some FFA systems, but in themeparks not so much, too arbitrary, too guided... not enough player ownership to care, etc... To think as you do is just completely short-sighted.
TESO is being designed AROUND RvRvR though so to think as you do is just completely short-sighted because you are defending it just because of the TES name being tagged on it and even stating you are not going to take part in the PvP because its too arbitrary and guided...wow, the entire BASE game, but you are still going to defend it just because the name is TES...talk about crazy.
So again, it falls back to what so many are saying just in this thread let alone on EVERY single TES based website...if this didnt have the name TES, would anyone think it was ripping the gameplay off? No. because it doesnt even remotely try to, everything about the TES games was changed to fit standard MMO gameplay, gameplay that has the genre rooted in a whole lot of MEH. Now a TES sandbox open world game, that, that would be REFRESHING to the genre.
I've acknowledged the RvR focus of this title, I've acknowledged in other threads, that PVP especially a homage to DAOC is an odd choice for this games focus. With that said an RVR focus really doesn't mean bad PVE options... if such a stance is "defending" something I guess I am. But hey what I've seen and heard from the PVE side of things has me interested, maybe I have some sort of entitlement issue because I like to play what interests me. If so my bad...
As for PVE being "guided",.. supposedly it's not in many ways, but we'll see.
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I maybe stubborn or limited in my view on this faction system but TESO with seprate factions and alot of themeaprk will never appeal to me it will never be a TES game nomatter how hard they try giving us felling its TES traditional mmo.
Again i repeat should have been sandbox with ZERO instance and open ended world with open fanctional pvp everywhere.
I leave this to new genration who wanne play this fake TES game.
Originally posted by azzamasin Originally posted by Nanfoodle Originally posted by Pixel_Jockey Originally posted by Nanfoodle Originally posted by Pixel_Jockey Originally posted by Nanfoodle
And why cant Mario still be fixing pipes? Forget this side scrolling idea where he saves his girlfriend Peach. You know what lets rewind everything and go back to 8 bit graphics. Thats how TES started. Lets rewind WoW and have it only be a RTS. By your standard we would miss out on a lot of great games that started from something else.
What? So confused. WTB more logic.
Replying to what you said in red. Games grow and change and just because the single player game had it does not mean its needs to be in the MMO. Sure over all it needs to feel like TES. It must have story and lore to fit but Locked factions does not break this game. Just like any video game that started out as a RTS or a single player RPG. When it makes a jump into 3D or a MMO or any other medium. Its time for change to fit that. Just like a book made into a movie it cant keep all the same elements.
Except they could keep all the same elements and give you what you want at the same time, but they choose not to. Everyone could be happy here, they CHOOSE not to do it, not that it can't be done.
Thats what kills me from people on your side of this. You think you speak for all TES fans and you dont. I am a HUGE TES fan. Been playing them from the days of 8 Bit games. As a TES fan I LOVE this current design. At best if they remade the game there would be a different set of fans who would be happy and another set that would be upset.
Foodle just ignore them, you're not gonna change their mind because they have an agenda which is clear as hell. We all know that there are millions of TES fans looking forward to ESO as evident by the Facebook likes (over a million) tons of positive feedback since the 1st press event in October, many more positive hype since Pax. Not to mention the myriad of supportive and eager fans on very popular websites like TESOF and Tamriel Foundry and the many Podcasts which get rave reviews.
Just trying to support the devs in what they have done. Want them to know there are some fans out here who love what they are doing. =-)
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Originally posted by Nanfoodle Originally posted by azzamasin Originally posted by Nanfoodle Originally posted by Pixel_Jockey Originally posted by Nanfoodle Originally posted by Pixel_Jockey Originally posted by Nanfoodle
I can respect that, Nan. I am doing the very same, letting the devs know that I care about their game and like whatI've seen so far, except that I also point out what I don't like and how it would keep me from playing it. The others who feel like me are also giving suggestions how they think changes could be made that allow for more options and will in the end reach more fans of TES.
Dismissing them simply as fanatics, as having an evil agenda that shall destroy the game, etc. is easy.
Acknowledging that they have a different view on ESO and be done with it seems a lot harder, for some reason
Originally posted by Xstatic912 If this game end game uses a non raid format to get the best gear, then I'll play. But as a current subscriber of WOW I honestly don't see myself raiding again for the best gear, no matter how great the game is. tired of the politics
Then you will like this game as it stands now.
Originally posted by Vorthanion Originally posted by lizardbones Originally posted by Vorthanion Originally posted by lizardbones Originally posted by jtcgs Didnt need to read past "Coincidence? Probably not." to know this is just an article being written due to MONEY being given to them. There isnt a single person, not even hardcore DaoC fans that can argue that it is not a coincidence because THERE ARE NO DAOC FACTIONS LOCKED BEHIND AN INVISIBLE WALL clones out there, no one but the makers of that game thought it was a good enough idea to do it in another game... Coincidence? Duh. No amount of articles is going to change the minds of the TES fans that have been arguing against this crap move on every single TES site, its a small box being made for a game meant for an open world. Deal with that fact, and the fact you are not going to change the minds of those pissed off with anything less than a TES MMO with an open world.
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