I was looking over the Camelot Unchained kickstarter and it hit me that the few mmos that have have nearly all items being custom made by the players are pvp games. CU itself will have nothing but pvp. Old UO was a free for all same with EVE, though I admit to not know alot about the EVE crafting system. Then there's Salem that's perma death ffa pvp. So my questiong is why are the games that have a focus on a strong crafting system also free for all pk fests? The only one I can think of that isn't is Tale in the Desert and that game's ten years old.