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People Kicking Down CU On Purpose?

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  • fs23otmfs23otm Winter Haven, FLPosts: 293Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Qallidexz

    I noticed everytime our game gets to #1 on the hype meter, it shoots down several points all at once... It seems that some people are artifically keeping it down, maybe by giving it 1 ratings? I don't know about you guys, but I am super excited for this game, and so I gave it a 10/10 on the hype meter... I think if it was at the top, it would help the Kickstarter fund as well, hopefully people stop doing this, or what not, so it can stay at the top.... It's unfortunate that people are trying to keep it down on purpose. I wish there was something we could do about these false ratings, that are in favor of other games, or seem to be...

    So people who don't like the game who vote 1 are wrong... yet it is fine if people who like the game vote 10?

    Talk about being a hypocrite.

  • KyleranKyleran Tampa, FLPosts: 19,989Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by skyexile

     


    Originally posted by JimmyYO
    It doesn't exactly have much competition other then TESO so wouldnt be too concerned with any hype meter fluctuations. Afterall, DF Unholy Wars was at the top not to long ago.

     

    I'm more concerned about all these gamers willing to throw money at developers before they're even put to work despite the fact that every MMO in the past decade was a crapshoot full of unfullfilled promises, Warhammer Online being one of the biggest offenders..............


     

    name a open world mmo pvp game released in the last 7 years with better pvp than WAR.

    WAR was on open world MMO pvp game?  You could attack anyone, anywhere outside a few small safe zones?  (a la Mordred on DAOC, and not the blue servers)

    That's not how I recall it, seems to have been more of an RVR style game with combat restricted to certain areas, but was a long time ago that I played it.

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  • morfidonmorfidon BochniaPosts: 245Member
    Originally posted by meddyck

    I confess I dropped my hype from 9 to 7 after the 10,000 models video made me wonder whether CSE is planning for fights on a scale that I think would be boring and stupid. But I like the TDD concepts shown and will likely bump it back up in a few days.

    Mostly though don't pay any attention to the hype meter. It's about as meaningless as which forum gets the most posts daily (ours probably lol).

    They shown it to show how optimized it is not that we will meet 10k ppl at the screen lol. 500 models like that doing nothing but walking wouldn't make any impression. 

  • bambuchabambucha BilbaoPosts: 19Member
    Originally posted by Qallidexz

    I noticed everytime our game gets to #1 on the hype meter, it shoots down several points all at once... It seems that some people are artifically keeping it down, maybe by giving it 1 ratings? I don't know about you guys, but I am super excited for this game, and so I gave it a 10/10 on the hype meter...  I wish there was something we could do about these false ratings, that are in favor of other games, or seem to be...

    yea me too, but im afraid thats not possible. So we'll have to learn to live with people like you giving 10's, and your virtual enemies - giving 1's to games nobody knows a thing about.

     

    i like this topic though.

     

     

     

     

  • IsawaIsawa Middle 0 Nowhere, ORPosts: 1,051Member
    Originally posted by bambucha
    Originally posted by Qallidexz

    I noticed everytime our game gets to #1 on the hype meter, it shoots down several points all at once... It seems that some people are artifically keeping it down, maybe by giving it 1 ratings? I don't know about you guys, but I am super excited for this game, and so I gave it a 10/10 on the hype meter...  I wish there was something we could do about these false ratings, that are in favor of other games, or seem to be...

    yea me too, but im afraid thats not possible. So we'll have to learn to live with people like you giving 10's, and your virtual enemies - giving 1's to games nobody knows a thing about.

    i like this topic though.

    Hahaha now that I have reread the underlined part, I really see how absurd it is. I haven't even voted on this game, but the topic is quite good. Plus great response :)

  • SpeelySpeely Seattle, WAPosts: 861Member
    @winter

    I actually don't care about the hypemeter. At all. I just care about CU. Which is why I am here. A place where people who care about the game can talk about it.

    Seems simple to me. But enjoy yourself. Like I said in the "no gameplay" thread, we all have our roles.

    :P
  • MyriaMyria Lowell, MAPosts: 570Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Kyleran

    WAR was on open world MMO pvp game?  You could attack anyone, anywhere outside a few small safe zones?  (a la Mordred on DAOC, and not the blue servers)

    There were a few PvP-anywhere WAR servers, as I recall, but, as tends to be the case with such things, they quickly died and were among the first to get axed.

    Edit: Personally I've never even noticed, let alone paid attention to, the "Hype meter" on this site -- one hardly needs a meter to see what's being hyped around here.

    I think the CU stuff has gone beyond hype at this point, though.

    I don't think I've ever seen a 'game' that hasn't even entered development yet become a religion before.

    Props to MJ, not even Anet could manage that one.

  • TsumoroTsumoro EozeaPosts: 408Member Uncommon

    I actually don't get involved in all this 'hype' metre stuff. But I would say if people are able to vote a 10 then people should be able to vote a 1. So getting frustrated that your game is getting knocked down a peg should be just part of  how it works. 

    This is just fan-boyism at the end of the day and these things tend to be circular in arguement. People will always vote a 10 that are really looking forward to a game. This builds hype and gets the game noticed. People then look at this nearly hyped game and some people go 'meh, not for me' and then give it a 1 to indicate they aren't very hyped for the game. 

    You can't fault people for that, its their vote to use as they please. 

     

    For instance, I would vote a 1 as I am not hyped about this game at all. I'll keep my eye on it, see how it shapes out... but nothing about this title grabs me at all. 

     

  • meddyckmeddyck Athens, GAPosts: 1,140Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Tsumoro

    For instance, I would vote a 1 as I am not hyped about this game at all. I'll keep my eye on it, see how it shapes out... but nothing about this title grabs me at all. 

    I only hype a game a 1 if I think the game will be terrible. Games that I think are mediocre and don't really interest me I hype a 5.

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  • MystaisMystais Purcellville, VAPosts: 72Member

    Well on one hand we have CU which has very little to show but is asking an awful lot.  Funny though that the developer already has 2-3 million but will not put it into developement unless he gets 2+ million from Kickstarter.

    Compared to

    Divergence Online which is being developed by one man who has already completed a vast majority of the game development  with little to no money and is only asking for $15,000 and may or may not even get that.

     

    Divergence Online dev (Ethan):

    "This is something I started with a couple friends back in 2006 who unfortunately went back to their day jobs within about three months while I stuck it out.  It's been something I've put my blood into every chance I got but the same crushing issue was always there... there's virtually no money."

    Listen to this and decide who could use the helping hand:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=trpmoQnEDfA#!

     

    One has done very little and asks for a lot and the other has done a lot and asks for very little.  You can guess who I'd hype and support.  But then again, I have a conscience.

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  • botrytisbotrytis In Flux, MIPosts: 2,567Member

    I am not kicking down CU - just kicking down all the hype is all. The game is not even in development and people think it is the next best thing since peanut butter. When you think about game development 4 million dollars is not alot of money to commit to such an ambitious game. But if the game looks like any of the tech demos - they better rethink what they are doing.

     

    Open world PvP is OK for a short time - after a while people get bored with it and leave these type of games and only people left are the people who like this style of game. That is a SMALL amount of the gaming population.

     

    Remember, the game isn't even IN DEVELOPMENT OR CODING and people are hyping it. We have had this problem with SWTOR and GW2 and the haters ran rampant over the fans. Now the rabid fans are hyping a VAPOURWARE game and wonder why people are reacting.

     

    KICKSTARTER DOES NOT MEAN THE GAME WILL EVEN SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY.  Please wait to hype the game until a beta test has started.

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  • VannorVannor YorkshirePosts: 2,970Member Uncommon

    Hmm yeah.. seems like a lot in denial.

    I'm sure you all love it (the idea of it that is) and it's support is pretty active on this site, but I don't think this game has anywhere near the popularity you think it does in the grand scheme of things.

  • jdnewelljdnewell Spring Hill, TNPosts: 2,150Member Uncommon

    I have to agree about why worry about hype on a game thats only a concept at this point. IMO it really should not even be able to be voted up / down on any hype meter until its actually in development.

    I am a big fan of this idea, but thats all it is really. Hopefully it will become more than an idea soon, until then I wouldnt worry about what a hype meter says.

  • MortifyMortify None of your BusinessPosts: 95Member
    Originally posted by botrytis

    Open world PvP is OK for a short time - after a while people get bored with it and leave these type of games and only people left are the people who like this style of game. That is a SMALL amount of the gaming population.

    Funny that you say that, because that's EXACTLY what MJ is aiming for with CU.

     

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  • ZiftylrhavicZiftylrhavic GrenoblePosts: 222Member
    Originally posted by jdnewell

    I have to agree about why worry about hype on a game thats only a concept at this point. IMO it really should not even be able to be voted up / down on any hype meter until its actually in development.

    I am a big fan of this idea, but thats all it is really. Hopefully it will become more than an idea soon, until then I wouldnt worry about what a hype meter says.

    I agree with you, but the hype meter do allow CU to be known^^

     

    Well maybe it mostly bring us trolls, but aren't they quite useful? They find flaws and argument to bring down CU than any other reader may have found but not said, thus allowing us to explain these shaddy points and get more people to be interested in the project.

  • JoekraJoekra BlieskastelPosts: 182Member
    In my opinion the devs didn't show anything to be excited about yet, so having a high hype is just wishful thinking anyway. Regardless, there are players who aren't totally into this game with zero actual gameplay details and OP thinks that's enough reason to call conspiracy on his beloved "game" (it's rather a concept right now, not even a game).
  • headenheaden new lisbon, WYPosts: 219Member Uncommon

    What's this Cameltoe Unchained game all about?

  • botrytisbotrytis In Flux, MIPosts: 2,567Member
    Originally posted by Mortify
    Originally posted by botrytis

    Open world PvP is OK for a short time - after a while people get bored with it and leave these type of games and only people left are the people who like this style of game. That is a SMALL amount of the gaming population.

    Funny that you say that, because that's EXACTLY what MJ is aiming for with CU.

     

    Right - it is a concept currently. Until it is something I can see in front of me - I will reserve judgement.

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  • LivnthedreamLivnthedream Salt Lake City, UTPosts: 555Member
    Originally posted by Mystais

    Well on one hand we have CU which has very little to show but is asking an awful lot.  Funny though that the developer already has 2-3 million but will not put it into developement unless he gets 2+ million from Kickstarter.

    Compared to

    Divergence Online which is being developed by one man who has already completed a vast majority of the game development  with little to no money and is only asking for $15,000 and may or may not even get that.

     

    Divergence Online dev (Ethan):

    "This is something I started with a couple friends back in 2006 who unfortunately went back to their day jobs within about three months while I stuck it out.  It's been something I've put my blood into every chance I got but the same crushing issue was always there... there's virtually no money."

    Listen to this and decide who could use the helping hand:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=trpmoQnEDfA#!

     

    One has done very little and asks for a lot and the other has done a lot and asks for very little.  You can guess who I'd hype and support.  But then again, I have a conscience.

    That is vaporware. If he has the tech he claims to have he could sell that to any number of studios/publishers for millions without touching his beloved ip and selling out to the man as he claims in his horribly biased marketing video.

  • MystaisMystais Purcellville, VAPosts: 72Member
    Originally posted by Livnthedream
    Originally posted by Mystais

    Well on one hand we have CU which has very little to show but is asking an awful lot.  Funny though that the developer already has 2-3 million but will not put it into developement unless he gets 2+ million from Kickstarter.

    Compared to

    Divergence Online which is being developed by one man who has already completed a vast majority of the game development  with little to no money and is only asking for $15,000 and may or may not even get that.

     

    Divergence Online dev (Ethan):

    "This is something I started with a couple friends back in 2006 who unfortunately went back to their day jobs within about three months while I stuck it out.  It's been something I've put my blood into every chance I got but the same crushing issue was always there... there's virtually no money."

    Listen to this and decide who could use the helping hand:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=trpmoQnEDfA#!

     

    One has done very little and asks for a lot and the other has done a lot and asks for very little.  You can guess who I'd hype and support.  But then again, I have a conscience.

    That is vaporware. If he has the tech he claims to have he could sell that to any number of studios/publishers for millions without touching his beloved ip and selling out to the man as he claims in his horribly biased marketing video.

    Thanks for the damning opinion.  Considering beta is set for July 2013, we'll know soon enough.  

    Oh by the way, I did back CU as well but just hate to see one developer lost in the shadow of the other.  But I suppose there's only so much hype to go around.

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  • MaephistoMaephisto somewhere, DCPosts: 632Member

    You can only choose one thing:

    --  Have a decent community with meaningful / interesting discussions.

    --  OR --

    --  Have a high "hype" score, and have a sub forum that resembles the TESO forums.  *shudders*

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  • ZinzanZinzan NorthPosts: 1,351Member
    Originally posted by Mortify
    Originally posted by botrytis

    Open world PvP is OK for a short time - after a while people get bored with it and leave these type of games and only people left are the people who like this style of game. That is a SMALL amount of the gaming population.

    Funny that you say that, because that's EXACTLY what MJ is aiming for with CU.

     

    I think this is something any rational person realises. DAoC for example was mainly populated by pve players who liked casual pvp.

    the thing is, this small population is precisely the gamer demographic CU is aimed at, so it's a mute point really.

     

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  • JacobinJacobin Toronto, ONPosts: 697Member Uncommon

    The hype meter lets people know how interested the users on mmorpg.com are about upcoming games.

     

    The fact that this game has more hype than a lot of big games and similar hype to Archeage and TESO just shows you how much people around here are craving something new.

     

    For a game this is 'only ideas and promises' it is doing amazingly well.

     

  • neobahamut20neobahamut20 ste-julie, QCPosts: 336Member
    Originally posted by Qallidexz

    I noticed everytime our game gets to #1 on the hype meter, it shoots down several points all at once... It seems that some people are artifically keeping it down, maybe by giving it 1 ratings? I don't know about you guys, but I am super excited for this game, and so I gave it a 10/10 on the hype meter... I think if it was at the top, it would help the Kickstarter fund as well, hopefully people stop doing this, or what not, so it can stay at the top.... It's unfortunate that people are trying to keep it down on purpose. I wish there was something we could do about these false ratings, that are in favor of other games, or seem to be...

    Is it really so important to you that "your game" is number one?

    Will it make you a better person?

    Will it "show everyone" that you are right?

    Will you sleep better at night knowing you are waiting for the #1 on "MMORPG's hype meter"?

    Do you not see the insignificance of your desires?

     

    Why do you even care? it's only free publicity for a game, nothing more.

    Boycotting EA. Why? They suck, even moreso since 2008.

  • JacobinJacobin Toronto, ONPosts: 697Member Uncommon

    If anything, it shows what little faith people have in AAA titles.

     

    If a list of FPs and some concept art can get as much hype as TESO, then what does that say about the state of AAA games?

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