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This game makes WoW looks good...

QallidexzQallidexz Member Posts: 253
I'm shocked that some people are into this game, it looks like WoW in space, except, I think WoW has better graphics... I'm surprised a company can still get a decent rating from releasing such crap even in 2013. What do people see in this game, really?
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  • LivnthedreamLivnthedream Member Posts: 555
    Better graphics in what way? Care to quantify that statement? Preferably with examples.
  • YaevinduskYaevindusk Member RarePosts: 2,094

     

    I used to think the same thing, until I actually started looking into the game.  It has some simply amazing ideas to anyone who is a fan of Sanbox games; it's kind've an introduction to Sandbox MMOs for those who haven't played one, as it has a lot of themepark elements as well.

    Give it some ample research and you'll see why it's so popular.   :D

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  • BTrayaLBTrayaL Member UncommonPosts: 624

    You're subjective, to say at least.

    I am too subjective, in saying that nothing makes WoW look good.

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  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,802

    I think the cartoony grafics are much more detailed than that of wow and swtor.

    Having said so...

    Are you really that shallow that you will not play a game because you don't like its grafics?

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  • SorninSornin Member Posts: 1,133

    I think the graphics, on a technical level, are superior to World of Warcraft's. I also think the styles are somewhat similar, but that is fine - that style is popular for a reason. Unfortunately it is going to get a lot of "WoW clone" comments due to that.

    I am not a huge fan of the textures and how muted everything looks. I do not know even how to describe it, but even though they use a lot of colours, everything seems flat and blends together. It looks pretty enough, but it is not my thing.

    One thing I do like is the attitude and comedy of the game; Carbine is doing well giving the characters, well, character. If I were not done with the PvE theme park thing, this would be something I'd be salivating over because it looks like it is being developed with a lot of love and time, and should end up being a pretty polished adventure.

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  • PurutzilPurutzil Member UncommonPosts: 3,048

    So wait, your bash at people downvoting CU in hype for a game showing virtually nothing by voting low while you votes 10/10 (which I'm sure you voted this game a 1/10) then you come here degrading another game and insulting it without any real rhyme or reason?

     

    Your going down a slipper slope of hypocricy thats for sure.  You can't attack one game and then claim its 'unfair' when someone does it to the one you support. Thats hogwash

  • FromHellFromHell Member Posts: 1,311
    Originally posted by Qallidexz
    it looks like WoW in space

    where have I heard that before....

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  • JoekraJoekra Member Posts: 182
    Seems like someone was bored, looked at half a screen shot and decided to make a new awesome and entertaining thread. I personally am really looking forward to getting my hands on Wildstar and judging for myself.
  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254
    Originally posted by Purutzil

    So wait, your bash at people downvoting CU in hype for a game showing virtually nothing by voting low while you votes 10/10 (which I'm sure you voted this game a 1/10) then you come here degrading another game and insulting it without any real rhyme or reason?

     

    Your going down a slipper slope of hypocricy thats for sure.  You can't attack one game and then claim its 'unfair' when someone does it to the one you support. Thats hogwash

    Oh... yeah. Way too transparent.

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5653586/People-Kicking-Down-CU-On-Purpose.html#5653586

     

    Lets see, how do we counter his propaganda? Everyone! Drop a 10 on Wildstar and a 1 on Camelot!

     

    It's time to start a hateful thread in the Camelot section and a thread that asks for people to give 10s to Wildstar in the Wildstar section. Nah, that would be really lame. 

  • QallidexzQallidexz Member Posts: 253
    Originally posted by Yaevindusk

     

    I used to think the same thing, until I actually started looking into the game.  It has some simply amazing ideas to anyone who is a fan of Sanbox games; it's kind've an introduction to Sandbox MMOs for those who haven't played one, as it has a lot of themepark elements as well.

    Give it some ample research and you'll see why it's so popular.   :D

    One or 2 solid answers, out of the lot, thanks guys. Anyways, yea, I get the sandbox thing, I to love a good sandbox... But man, I do seriously think WoW has better graphix, but that's just me. I highly doubt it has better gameplay (what does, really?). Still, I'm surprised game developers can produce something with this level of graphics and still have a bunch of fans... I guess there are people really like the super-stylized graphics. What can you say...

    Man, lotta haters in here. A man can't ask a question? Geez. Thanks to the few people who gave reasonable answers. lol

  • JoekraJoekra Member Posts: 182
    Originally posted by Qallidexz
    Originally posted by Yaevindusk

     

    I used to think the same thing, until I actually started looking into the game.  It has some simply amazing ideas to anyone who is a fan of Sanbox games; it's kind've an introduction to Sandbox MMOs for those who haven't played one, as it has a lot of themepark elements as well.

    Give it some ample research and you'll see why it's so popular.   :D

    One or 2 solid answers, out of the lot, thanks guys. Anyways, yea, I get the sandbox thing, I to love a good sandbox... But man, I do seriously think WoW has better graphix, but that's just me. I highly doubt it has better gameplay (what does, really?). Still, I'm surprised game developers can produce something with this level of graphics and still have a bunch of fans... I guess there are people really like the super-stylized graphics. What can you say...

    Man, lotta haters in here. A man can't ask a question? Geez. Thanks to the few people who gave reasonable answers. lol

    I didn't read a single "hater" replying. You simply word your "question" so incredible negative and trolly while totally rooting for a game you know nothing of and expect that nobody will feel like you are just trying to bash the game? Honestly, watch one video in hd and compare it to wow and you will find your point non-existant.

  • TheHavokTheHavok Member UncommonPosts: 2,423
    Originally posted by Qallidexz
    Originally posted by Yaevindusk

     

    I used to think the same thing, until I actually started looking into the game.  It has some simply amazing ideas to anyone who is a fan of Sanbox games; it's kind've an introduction to Sandbox MMOs for those who haven't played one, as it has a lot of themepark elements as well.

    Give it some ample research and you'll see why it's so popular.   :D

    One or 2 solid answers, out of the lot, thanks guys. Anyways, yea, I get the sandbox thing, I to love a good sandbox... But man, I do seriously think WoW has better graphix, but that's just me. I highly doubt it has better gameplay (what does, really?). Still, I'm surprised game developers can produce something with this level of graphics and still have a bunch of fans... I guess there are people really like the super-stylized graphics. What can you say...

    Man, lotta haters in here. A man can't ask a question? Geez. Thanks to the few people who gave reasonable answers. lol

    Lol, wait, you are calling people haters when you start with, and this is a direct quote:

    'I'm shocked that some people are into this game, it looks like WoW in space, except, I think WoW has better graphics... I'm surprised a company can still get a decent rating from releasing such crap even in 2013. What do people see in this game, really?'

    Really?  You are calling people haters when the first thing you do is bash not one but TWO games?  This is what we call being a bigot.  You sir, are a bigot.

  • BoudewijnsBoudewijns Member UncommonPosts: 162
    Originally posted by Qallidexz
    I'm shocked that some people are into this game, it looks like WoW in space, except, I think WoW has better graphics... I'm surprised a company can still get a decent rating from releasing such crap even in 2013. What do people see in this game, really?

    Dont u start to hate fanboy behavior



  • MagnetiaMagnetia Member UncommonPosts: 1,015
    Originally posted by Qallidexz
    Originally posted by Yaevindusk

     

    I used to think the same thing, until I actually started looking into the game.  It has some simply amazing ideas to anyone who is a fan of Sanbox games; it's kind've an introduction to Sandbox MMOs for those who haven't played one, as it has a lot of themepark elements as well.

    Give it some ample research and you'll see why it's so popular.   :D

    One or 2 solid answers, out of the lot, thanks guys. Anyways, yea, I get the sandbox thing, I to love a good sandbox... But man, I do seriously think WoW has better graphix, but that's just me. I highly doubt it has better gameplay (what does, really?). Still, I'm surprised game developers can produce something with this level of graphics and still have a bunch of fans... I guess there are people really like the super-stylized graphics. What can you say...

    Man, lotta haters in here. A man can't ask a question? Geez. Thanks to the few people who gave reasonable answers. lol

    Good graphics doesn't necessarily mean better game. Take TF2 for example - millions of players with those great player models. It doesn't have the super smoke explosion effects from BF3 because it simply doesn't need it. 

    TF2 beats the hell out of oh...all modern military shooters. And it didn't need graphics to make it better. In fact initially tf2 was designed with 'realistic' player models and they found that nobody could tell each other apart. So they went with very unique silhouettes which can instantly be recognized.

    The most important thing in a game is gameplay. If you want pretty models play Scarlet Blade, my character is sooo damn fine in that. 

    And proof that graphics aren't everything:

    FTL

    Gratuitous space battles

    Starcraft 1

    Any popular mobile game

    As a game programming student the idea that they use style and simple models so that they can work on making great content instead of eye candy is appealing. I don't care about seeing each individual hair on a monster with terrible WoW combat, I would rather see 8bit stuff which has great mechanics.

    On a final note Super Adventure Box must be mentioned. Except for the people who hate jumping puzzles and have no sense of fun it is in my mind the best April Fools content of all time. Not hyperbole. 8bit in my MMO? Hells to the yes

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  • QallidexzQallidexz Member Posts: 253
    Originally posted by Magnetia
    Originally posted by Qallidexz
    Originally posted by Yaevindusk

     

    I used to think the same thing, until I actually started looking into the game.  It has some simply amazing ideas to anyone who is a fan of Sanbox games; it's kind've an introduction to Sandbox MMOs for those who haven't played one, as it has a lot of themepark elements as well.

    Give it some ample research and you'll see why it's so popular.   :D

    One or 2 solid answers, out of the lot, thanks guys. Anyways, yea, I get the sandbox thing, I to love a good sandbox... But man, I do seriously think WoW has better graphix, but that's just me. I highly doubt it has better gameplay (what does, really?). Still, I'm surprised game developers can produce something with this level of graphics and still have a bunch of fans... I guess there are people really like the super-stylized graphics. What can you say...

    Man, lotta haters in here. A man can't ask a question? Geez. Thanks to the few people who gave reasonable answers. lol

    Good graphics doesn't necessarily mean better game. Take TF2 for example - millions of players with those great player models. It doesn't have the super smoke explosion effects from BF3 because it simply doesn't need it. 

    TF2 beats the hell out of oh...all modern military shooters. And it didn't need graphics to make it better. In fact initially tf2 was designed with 'realistic' player models and they found that nobody could tell each other apart. So they went with very unique silhouettes which can instantly be recognized.

    The most important thing in a game is gameplay. If you want pretty models play Scarlet Blade, my character is sooo damn fine in that. 

    And proof that graphics aren't everything:

    FTL

    Gratuitous space battles

    Starcraft 1

    Any popular mobile game

     

    I used to play TFC, from pretty much the time it first came out, and that had pretty damn realistic graphix for back in '96, and I had no trouble at all telling people apart. I wanted to playTF2, but couldn't get past the ridiculous stylized graphics there either, but I agree that gameply>graphix... to a point. Over-stylized graphix just irk me to no end... I want them to at least TRY to make their graphics look good.

  • MagnetiaMagnetia Member UncommonPosts: 1,015
    Originally posted by Qallidexz
    Originally posted by Magnetia
    Originally posted by Qallidexz
    Originally posted by Yaevindusk

     

    I used to think the same thing, until I actually started looking into the game.  It has some simply amazing ideas to anyone who is a fan of Sanbox games; it's kind've an introduction to Sandbox MMOs for those who haven't played one, as it has a lot of themepark elements as well.

    Give it some ample research and you'll see why it's so popular.   :D

    One or 2 solid answers, out of the lot, thanks guys. Anyways, yea, I get the sandbox thing, I to love a good sandbox... But man, I do seriously think WoW has better graphix, but that's just me. I highly doubt it has better gameplay (what does, really?). Still, I'm surprised game developers can produce something with this level of graphics and still have a bunch of fans... I guess there are people really like the super-stylized graphics. What can you say...

    Man, lotta haters in here. A man can't ask a question? Geez. Thanks to the few people who gave reasonable answers. lol

    Good graphics doesn't necessarily mean better game. Take TF2 for example - millions of players with those great player models. It doesn't have the super smoke explosion effects from BF3 because it simply doesn't need it. 

    TF2 beats the hell out of oh...all modern military shooters. And it didn't need graphics to make it better. In fact initially tf2 was designed with 'realistic' player models and they found that nobody could tell each other apart. So they went with very unique silhouettes which can instantly be recognized.

    The most important thing in a game is gameplay. If you want pretty models play Scarlet Blade, my character is sooo damn fine in that. 

    And proof that graphics aren't everything:

    FTL

    Gratuitous space battles

    Starcraft 1

    Any popular mobile game

     

    I used to play TFC, from pretty much the time it first came out, and that had pretty damn realistic graphix for back in '96, and I had no trouble at all telling people apart. I wanted to playTF2, but couldn't get past the ridiculous stylized graphics there either, but I agree that gameply>graphix... to a point. Over-stylized graphix just irk me to no end... I want them to at least TRY to make their graphics look good.

    I think I see what you mean :P Good graphics take time is all. It doesn't come cheap either. Starcraft 2 cost from 150-300 million dollars to make. I hope you think that they are good graphics :P

    Mass Effect - droooool

    Just a matter of taste really. I enjoy being silly as much as I enjoy killing a boss that takes 5 hours. Graphics just rank low on my scale.

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  • DoogiehowserDoogiehowser Member Posts: 1,873

    Ok you know i am usually against the whole 'WOW clone' term because people use it even when it doesn't apply...but for first time i think it is actually fair to use this term in regards with WIldstar.

    I swear when i first saw Wildstar video i thought i was watching WOW gameplay video in barrens. That is how much identical it is.

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  • DoogiehowserDoogiehowser Member Posts: 1,873
    Originally posted by Qallidexz
     

    Bashing WoW counts as bashing? I thought it was just commonly accepted knowledge that that game sucks?? Lol, whatever guys, do whatchu want.

    Every devs wet dream to make a sucky game like WOW..yes that is how much it sucks...

    /sarcasm

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  • QallidexzQallidexz Member Posts: 253
    Originally posted by Doogiehowser

    I swear when i first saw Wildstar video i thought i was watching WOW gameplay video in barrens. That is how much identical it is.

    Yea, same here. It might not be a WoW-clone Gameplay-wise... but sure is graphics-wise. 

  • BizkitNLBizkitNL Member RarePosts: 2,546

    The graphics aren't bad; you just dislike the style they chose. There's a difference. 

    These graphic topics keep surprising me.

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  • oubersoubers Member UncommonPosts: 855

    imho the gfx are not realy important.

    On the other hand i sometimes think, man....what a waste, i spent a fiew 100€ on a gfx card in my new rig to play cartoon gfx?

    So what i am trying to say here is that (in my case) IF the gameplay is good enough it kinda overrides the need for high res gfx for me, but most of the time that just isn't the case.

    I realy can't say WStar is- or is not one of those untill i had the chance to try it out myself.

     

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  • aesperusaesperus Member UncommonPosts: 5,135
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    Uhm... do you seriously not see the irony of that first question? Yes, bashing a game (any game) is bashing. Just as sandwiches are still sandwiches, and hate is still hate.

    While it's the 'cool' thing to do to hate WoW, it's actually generally hailed as one of the best MMOs. Not saying I agree with that, but it was a good game. It's also generally accepted that the game is a shadow of it's former self, since Blizzard started changing it to appeal more and more to the extremely casual, entitled, and anti-social demographic.

    As for WildStar, everything shown so far points to it being a good game. That doesn't mean you will like it, but it does look like a solid game. You may not like the art style, but saying it's graphics are worse than WoW is extremely ignorant. I can tell you that yes, the game is using a more updated graphics engine than WoW, it has been shown to make use of certain processes you don't see in WoW, and objectively it does look better than WoW. Subjectively, that's entirely a matter of opinion.

    Honestly, unless some major screw up happens with this game, I think a lot of people are going to be surprised by it. It's currently the game that people are bashing just because it's the cool thing to do. No one here has really played it afaik, they're just assuming cartoony = terrible.

    Lots of really good games have cartoony graphics. And lots of really awful games have amazing graphics. I'm generally a fan of the former.

  • QallidexzQallidexz Member Posts: 253
    Originally posted by BizkitNL

    The graphics aren't bad; you just dislike the style they chose. There's a difference. 

    These graphic topics keep surprising me.

     

    No, even with the style, I still think they don't look any better than WoW's graphix did 7 years earlier... really, they just look out of date.

  • IsawaIsawa Member UncommonPosts: 1,051

    I was going to link some screenshots for comparing, but the WildStar site is down - hopefully being upgraded for beta image All you really have to do is type in WIldStar screenshots and WoW screenshots, and it isn't very hard to see which is superior. Probably better than SWTOR too.

    You topic is just so bogus because a visual comparion doesn't hold up, and that's why the hate is present haha...

    Edit: Nvm site wasn't down, just default blocked when I had something else enabled.

  • MukeMuke Member RarePosts: 2,614


    Originally posted by Qallidexz
    I'm shocked that some people are into this game, it looks like WoW in space, except, I think WoW has better graphics... I'm surprised a company can still get a decent rating from releasing such crap even in 2013. What do people see in this game, really?

    As a WOW player you should know that playability > uber grahics.

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