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Once i got past horrible patcher i enjoyed what few hours i could spent in it last night. it is a B2P MMO and since it is not raid focused i am not obliged to play it everyday because i have to catch up with other players. It is a perfect MMO to get in and out whenever i feel like.
I don't have much time anyways..hour or two is all i get these days for gaming.
Does this game has its problems? many actually but it is not some 'horrible' peice of garbage as some would want you to believe.
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Originally posted by 4bsolute Originally posted by BrownAle Theres no levels. The guy who started the whole "its short" thing skipped everything but the main storyline...which one can expect to stop with the TV shows progression as to not spoil the TV show. Its not a MMORPG, and its not a PS2 style battleground...its something inbetween, and for me, whos kinda burnt out on high fantasy games, the sci fi weapons the story and the type of game it is has been fairly enjoyable thus far.. Im expecting the game to open up more as the TV show progresses, meaning that i cant imagine there being very much in terms of main storyline in the game at this point. Whole point of the game+tv show is to tie them in right? Why would anyone expect there to be enough content to make watching the TV show pointless? Or to spoil plot lines or whatever? Ill admit that this isnt going to be a game people on this site like. It competes in mechanics with GW2, being a lot of dynamic events, though its oddly not as shallow, and certainly not as cliche as that game...which instantly fill this sub forum with haters. Its nothing like APB, nothing like Firefall, nothing like PS2, nothing like Global Agenda or Fallen Earth. They really hit a good middle ground with a PVE TPS. Its not the best game ever. It plays and feels different, which is what i want. Longevity? Well its buy to play. I expect at some point ill walk away from the game and then come back, as i do with other buy to play steam games, and thats how im treating the game..not a mmorpg that i need to be glued to or im done. Im sure Trion will add free content along with the DLC stuff. Either way theres certainly a lot of events and side missions to keep you plenty busy. I dont expect DLC to be crazy expensive, i think the first 5 seasons of DLC were packaged at $30, which is fine with me, if im still interested ill buy it. I wouldnt want to play this game for 15 hours a day weeks on end, not that i want to ever really do that with any game, as its the best way to ruin a good game for youself. Only real complaints are the menu system and the TPS view+crosshairs takes about 20min to get use to. I hate the dialogue the allien lady uses...every time i hear her say "schtako" i want to punch her deformed face. Story is decent, not typical of mmorpgs which is good. I dont know where the story is leading to, most mmorpgs its beyond predictable which is super annoying paired with a "try hard" story that wants to be the most epic story ever told. Combat mechanics are fun once accostomed to them, guns are pretty interesting with a bit of complexity and leveling involved in the actual weapon. The Ego system is light on complexity, i think it could use some work and be a bit more interesting though. Oh and you only get one "magic" skill as i would call it...which is good...you focus on the shooting of things. Yeah im liking it now, we will see how long that lasts, and if theres any returning player motives afterward. Should be interesting... Oh and i think watching the TV show is really going to enhance game enjoyment...so if your into that kind of thing its going to be a game that works i think. Saw only the 14min trailer on the syfi website...didnt look nearly as cheezy as i thought it was going to look...and actually has a base story thats quite interesting. If your broke or hate spending money without getting years in return then i would skip the game and stick to whatever new f2p game comes out. If $60 isn no big deal and your able to act like an adult regarding games and expectations i would give it a try if this all sounds interesting.
Did I read this right: You are burnt out and still keep on playing?
Sorry man but what a pittiful life is that? There are millions of other things besides gaming in this world... its not like you HAVE to play each new MMO?
And speaking of "new" - if you are burnt out that means you are playing a lot. So you have experience how games are being developed. And that they do not differ that much in the last years.
You are free to take a break and come back whenever you want.
you read it wrong. its a long post so i figured those with poor reading comprehension wouldnt get it.
I should really start adding a TL;DR summary of my posts that are long
TLDR of previous post: It doesnt play like the high fantasy themeparks im burned out on, so i like it.
thanks for all the thought out posts!
I trust the communities opinion any day over a 'professionals'
so keep em comin.
I'm enjoying it more than I thought I would
I had minimal beta playtime, so it's all new and shiny. I'm taking my time, because this game has to last me all the way to the Wildstar launch, lol
As usual, there are those that have raced to "endgame" (seen all the current zones and finished the main story questline) and are now complaining that there's nothing to do. I'm doing every single quest, challenge and avtivity that I find as I go. I still have heaps of stuff to look forward to...
It's definitely a console port, I was using a m/k, but now i'm using an xbox 360 controller, which feels much more natural. It's fun though and worth 25 quid to me.
Just don't expect what we expect in a true pc title, like the upcoming Darkfall Unholy wars for example, that releases on the 16th April.
I can't belive i paid for this game, is complete trash.
The graphic is 2 generations old, the gameplay is bad, the questing terrible, even the ui and controls are horrible.
Originally posted by Kehdar I can't belive i paid for this game, is complete trash. The graphic is 2 generations old, the gameplay is bad, the questing terrible, even the ui and controls are horrible.
Yeah its a shame they didnt have 3 beta events that werent hard to get into, aside from getting beta access for preordering.
Graphics look good on my system, perhaps you need to upgrade!
Originally posted by BrownAle Originally posted by Kehdar I can't belive i paid for this game, is complete trash. The graphic is 2 generations old, the gameplay is bad, the questing terrible, even the ui and controls are horrible.
No, graphics doesn't look good. I have an i7 with a gtx 680 settings are on high.
I didn't enter beta and i didn't preorder so i really don't see your point.
Originally posted by Kehdar Originally posted by BrownAle Originally posted by Kehdar I can't belive i paid for this game, is complete trash. The graphic is 2 generations old, the gameplay is bad, the questing terrible, even the ui and controls are horrible.
Graphics look fine, but they aren't cutting edge or anything. I think they look pretty good considering how responsive the game feels, and the number of players that show up doing things in the same area. But yeah, if you're looking for cutting edge tech, then Defiance isn't it.
You make me like charity
I've been playing this game solid and loving it. i love riding around on my runner, trying to avoid roads and going over mountains to get to missions etc. Love switching between sniper stealthy then full on rambo with automatic rifle. But the most fun is if you get a good infector. I got one that has extra long range and is good for taking out snipers, watching an army of head crabs suicide bomb everywhere is awesome.
The main annoyance for me is the menu system which is unweildy and seems to take far to many steps to get anything done. The chat system also seems odd. Ive been in battles where theres about 40 people and no one is talking. i asked a question in chat to which no one replied. I have seen some chat going on but it is very rare.
The MMO features such as crafting and distractions like fishing arent there as well as no bank or no trading system (that ive found anyway). Not sure if any of that stuff is going to be put in anyway, cant quiet work out where they are going with the game.
I would say though that for pure fun its hard to beat and that's coming from someone who likes TBS, RTS and In depth mmorpg's with crafting and trading (normally avoid shooters).
Can anyone tell me if there is a way for me to be able to be a medic of some kind in this game, other than just reviving people? Is there any healing character i can build?
Originally posted by trash656 Can anyone tell me if there is a way for me to be able to be a medic of some kind in this game, other than just reviving people? Is there any healing character i can build?
There are no set roles but you can play as a healer as there are guns that can do damage to the enemy and if you target an ally they heal them as well as recharging shields. When people run out of ammo they switch to the healing guns for damage as they are enegy based and don't have ammo.
There may also be some ego traits that support healing, i seem to remember hearing that there was but not sure on that.
Originally posted by brindleburn The main annoyance for me is the menu system which is unweildy and seems to take far to many steps to get anything done. The chat system also seems odd. Ive been in battles where theres about 40 people and no one is talking. i asked a question in chat to which no one replied. I have seen some chat going on but it is very rare.
Yeah that would be todays mmo "community" talking,or lack there of.
Originally posted by tank017 Originally posted by brindleburn The main annoyance for me is the menu system which is unweildy and seems to take far to many steps to get anything done. The chat system also seems odd. Ive been in battles where theres about 40 people and no one is talking. i asked a question in chat to which no one replied. I have seen some chat going on but it is very rare.
Well the reasoning behind it in a shooting game is because of the fact that it requires constant movement and mouse aiming. You don't really have time to stop and chat in the middle of avoiding and or shooting enemies.
I'm enjoying it so far!
I played the beta on the PC.. but my friends don't have gaming rigs so they all got it on Xbox.
I have to say it's been really fun playing together with friends that I've never played MMO's with.. It's still a little buggy and a bit unstable but nothing that isn't patchable.
Really good move on Trion's part to get this game on consoles, the servers are very crowded and getting (from what I'm gathering in game) a very good reception!
The strongest point to this game is the flat fee of 60$.. there is so much gameplay for the price you pay.. When I need a change of pace, I hop into matchmaking competitive maps that feel like COD or Shadow Wars which feel more like an MMO's PVP.
It's very fun!!
People still use chat? I thought everyone moved over to VOIP a long time ago....
Having fun with the game. I didnt' really enjoy beta too much but after launch, it seems to have come together pretty nicely. Looking forward to watching the show and seeing how it ties in with the game. The actors on the show is composed of all the lost sci-fi actors from previous shows.... should be interesting.
Visually, the graphics are not mind-blowingly amazing but I think the game was well made considering on how smooth the game runs under max settings. Using a decent rig so Im sure it looks much better on higher end PC's
i7 920, Gigabyte 680 Super OC, 8 Gigs of Ram
Originally posted by skimatix Originally posted by tank017 Originally posted by brindleburn The main annoyance for me is the menu system which is unweildy and seems to take far to many steps to get anything done. The chat system also seems odd. Ive been in battles where theres about 40 people and no one is talking. i asked a question in chat to which no one replied. I have seen some chat going on but it is very rare.
cant talk to a whole zone with voip
Seems like you never run out of stuff to do really been doing everything I come across side missions, main missions, episode missions, etc , minigames. My only complaint is the unexpected downtime when the server goes down and not eta for when it comes back up . Little heads up would go a long way, other than that I'm enjoying the story and lore so far , watched the 15 min preview for the TV show and will be watching that every week so I'd say Defiance has me hooked.
I believe the show is going to do well considering the good word of mouth going around plus the fact that producers from Farscape and Battlestar Galactica helped bring Defiance to life. Plus for those Dexter fans Julie Benz (Rita Morgan) is a cast regular as well .
It's a bit of a mixed bag for me, I can see the potential of this game, and I'm willing to give it a bit of a pass as they probably had a hard launch date to coincide with the tv show. I think after a few solid patches it will be more in line wiht what it should really have launched as.
The gameplay is fun, combat is decent and once you begin finding more varied weapons it's more dynamic.
I'm not too impressed with the arkfalls, they seem pretty flat and just a big chaotic zerg, I'd like to have seen more dynamics as in rift, but I'm sure given trions record it wont take long for them to be more interesting than hellbugs all the time.
The world itself so far is a bit bland, some more terrain variety would help give a sense of progression.
I haven't come across anytihng but mutants and hellbugs, so mob diversity is also bland.
I think it's got a lot of potential, the combat and driving mechanics are solid, the ui is nice to look at and after you get used to it it's not that bad. There's a good foundation here, it wil be interesting to see what trion builds on it.
My first ~8 hours were great fun. Lots of people running around and a good variety of things to do. Not bad for a shooter
One of the most critizised points would be the UI, and it truly is an abomination of a cheap console UI. Additionally I really hate the jumping animation and the fact that i hate the usual bunny-hopping in pvp doesnt make it better.
Lets see how long it will motivate people. For now i can say, it seems to be worth the entry-price.
Picked up two copies and played about four hours with my brother. We did quite a few side missions, a few main missions, a few episode missions, as well as participated in a few random events (resucing techs/hostages, defending from mutant attacks, destroying hellbug nests, etc.), and did a major Arkfall. It's not the second coming by any means, nor did I expect it to be, but it's FUN, and that's what counts. Well worth the $48 I spent on it.
Does it have problems? Absolutely. There's the fairly poor UI, a lack of graphic options (Low, Med, High, and a custom option that reveals nothing). Sometimes you'll see people using vehicles float, or disappear, or some such case, mostly when they ramp and go airborn (or so has been my experience). But I've not encountered anything gamebreaking.
I haven't tried the PvP out, so I can't comment on that as of yet.
Again, it's not the second coming of christ in an MMOTPS form. It does have some issues. But I had TONS of fun in my four hours played, and I can't wait to log in again. How long the fun will last? Who knows. I imagine it will last quite a while, for me anyways. If you're unsure, there's nothing wrong with waiting for reviews, or a trial to appear, or a sale. I would encourage all people that value their money to do such things before dropping it on something they're unsure of (unless you're just so loaded that it's basically pocket change to you, in that case go nuts I suppose).