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Custom UI's... Yay or Nay?

NegativeXNegativeX Denver, COPosts: 100Member

Figure I'd start a thread, where we can all discuss the pro's and con's of a custom UI and your opinion(s) as to why.

Not sure if it has even been officially talked about yet, by the powers to be.

 

 

Personally I loved the ability to skin my own UI's. Because lets face it, there's thousands of different people with a thousand of different ways they prefer things to be setup and the overall look & feel of things.

The only thing I'm personally against is the extra extensions that could give a slight advantage or make certain aspects of the game easier, beyond just the visual. WoW was/is a great offender in this instance.

 

 

Opinions? Thoughts?

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  • morfidonmorfidon BochniaPosts: 245Member
    Originally posted by NegativeX

    Figure I'd start a thread, where we can all discuss the pro's and con's of a custom UI and your opinion(s) as to why.

    Not sure if it has even been officially talked about yet, by the powers to be.

     

     

    Personally I loved the ability to skin my own UI's. Because lets face it, there's thousands of different people with a thousand of different ways they prefer things to be setup and the overall look & feel of things.

    The only thing I'm personally against is the extra extensions that could give a slight advantage or make certain aspects of the game easier, beyond just the visual. WoW was/is a great offender in this instance.

     

     

    Opinions? Thoughts?

    Yes of course. But no addons please - they kill the fun of the game.

  • VanshoodieVanshoodie Russellville, ALPosts: 34Member
    Sure as long as it is for cosmetics, being that people can change a color or move hotbars to their likeing. When it comes to adding macro scripts and other addons that change gameplay i am against it.
  • TimothyTierlessTimothyTierless Columnist M, ORPosts: 2,163Member Uncommon

    Let us edit it using in game tools and options but no addons.

  • binskkibinskki Bourbonnais, ILPosts: 153Member

    I tend to agree.  Tons of visual flexibilty for preference and convenience (and potential middle-aged blindness), but nothing that's going to make it impossible to be an efficient healer without three or four special mods.

    What do people think about the related issue of macros?  Within reason, they can be really helpful (/assist, etc.) but some elaborate thing that turns you into a one-button-spamming wonder makes everyone's play very similar...and hence very boring.

  • morfidonmorfidon BochniaPosts: 245Member
    Originally posted by binskki

    I tend to agree.  Tons of visual flexibilty for preference and convenience (and potential middle-aged blindness), but nothing that's going to make it impossible to be an efficient healer without three or four special mods.

    What do people think about the related issue of macros?  Within reason, they can be really helpful (/assist, etc.) but some elaborate thing that turns you into a one-button-spamming wonder makes everyone's play very similar...and hence very boring.

    You answered yourself in second paragraph . What's more it makes you to play like that otherwise you are under disadvantage. Addons are bad, they are killing fun.

  • Ice-QueenIce-Queen USA, GAPosts: 2,451Member Uncommon
    Just no Add-ons please

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  • MasahikoKobeMasahikoKobe Plantation, FLPosts: 51Member
    Custom UI and icons yes. Addons no.
  • skyexileskyexile MelbournePosts: 692Member

    Yea i agree with what other people are saying, custom yes, but no addons.

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  • akiira69akiira69 San Diego, CAPosts: 590Member Uncommon
    Yes to Custom UI's and Yes to AddOns. I dont know why people are so against AddOns seeing that the games that do allow for them have in time incorporated majority of the AddOns into the actual game. Or have hired the AddOn Developer to be part of the Development team for said Game.

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  • TribeofOneTribeofOne Wellford, SCPosts: 1,006Member Uncommon

    No addons, NO DPS METERS, Block ACT too

    scale, position and skinning yes please

  • skyexileskyexile MelbournePosts: 692Member


    Originally posted by TribeofOne
    No addons, NO DPS METERS, Block ACT tooscale, position and skinning yes please

    DPS meter in open world pvp game is so dumb anyway.

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  • TribeofOneTribeofOne Wellford, SCPosts: 1,006Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by skyexile

     


    Originally posted by TribeofOne
    No addons, NO DPS METERS, Block ACT too

     

    scale, position and skinning yes please


     

    DPS meter in open world pvp game is so dumb anyway.

    heh well we all know how some love their dps meters  /report group dps  /touchmyself

  • Plastic-MetalPlastic-Metal Highland Heights, KYPosts: 405Member
    Yes to custom UI, but no to addons.

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  • NegativeXNegativeX Denver, COPosts: 100Member
    Originally posted by TribeofOne
    Originally posted by skyexile

     


    Originally posted by TribeofOne
    No addons, NO DPS METERS, Block ACT too

     

    scale, position and skinning yes please


     

    DPS meter in open world pvp game is so dumb anyway.

    heh well we all know how some love their dps meters  /report group dps  /touchmyself

     

    lmfao...

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  • HokibukisaHokibukisa Midland, GAPosts: 185Member

    Yes please.

     

    I mean unless you guys think the default daoc group window was good and you actually used it. (meaning you were a fucking aweful healer/support)

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  • akiira69akiira69 San Diego, CAPosts: 590Member Uncommon
    I love how people are so against AddOns yet not a single one has put up a valid reason for such hatred.

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  • skyexileskyexile MelbournePosts: 692Member


    Originally posted by akiira69
    I love how people are so against AddOns yet not a single one has put up a valid reason for such hatred.

    We could state one like that it put and keeps everybody on a level playing field, but then you seem like the type of guy who would reply with, "EVERYBODY CAN INSTALL AN ADDON BUT! i dont see your opinion as valid, GIVE ME A REAL REASON" the conversation would go on like that and you would post on every page "nobody has given me a valid reason yet" even though everybody would be listing their reasons for not liking addons. Sure put addons in, whatever ill use them and install every addon I need to remain competitive, id rather just play the game though.

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  • Plastic-MetalPlastic-Metal Highland Heights, KYPosts: 405Member
    Originally posted by skyexile

     


    Originally posted by akiira69
    I love how people are so against AddOns yet not a single one has put up a valid reason for such hatred.

     id rather just play the game though.

    +1

    I've played every major MMO that has been released.  It wasn't until addons were introduced that gamers began to learn how to use the addon instead of just learning to play the game.  A prime example is World of Warcraft; a healer focuses on the little health bars and nothing else because his/her entire screen is covered with interface clutter.  In even further instances, addons provide a "NAME" and then a list of abilities that remove the targeting and critical thinking out of the game itself.

    Anywho, apples to oranges.  When addons are enabled, it becomes required by a certain playerbase in order to be competitive or allowed to group.

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  • skyexileskyexile MelbournePosts: 692Member


    Originally posted by Plastic-Metal
    Originally posted by skyexile   Originally posted by akiira69 I love how people are so against AddOns yet not a single one has put up a valid reason for such hatred.
     id rather just play the game though.
    +1

    I've played every major MMO that has been released.  It wasn't until addons were introduced that gamers began to learn how to use the addon instead of just learning to play the game.  A prime example is World of Warcraft; a healer focuses on the little health bars and nothing else because his/her entire screen is covered with interface clutter.  In even further instances, addons provide a "NAME" and then a list of abilities that remove the targeting and critical thinking out of the game itself.

    Anywho, apples to oranges.  When addons are enabled, it becomes required by a certain playerbase in order to be competitive or allowed to group.


    yea if you don't heal with some sort of click and grid, YOU DUMB or do arena with gladius, raid boss mods, etc.

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  • akiira69akiira69 San Diego, CAPosts: 590Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Plastic-Metal
    Originally posted by skyexile

     


    Originally posted by akiira69
    I love how people are so against AddOns yet not a single one has put up a valid reason for such hatred.

     id rather just play the game though.

    +1

    I've played every major MMO that has been released.  It wasn't until addons were introduced that gamers began to learn how to use the addon instead of just learning to play the game.  A prime example is World of Warcraft; a healer focuses on the little health bars and nothing else because his/her entire screen is covered with interface clutter.  In even further instances, addons provide a "NAME" and then a list of abilities that remove the targeting and critical thinking out of the game itself.

    Anywho, apples to oranges.  When addons are enabled, it becomes required by a certain playerbase in order to be competitive or allowed to group.

    I understand that from your point of view that too many addons might clutter a screen but as a person whos been using AddOns since Asheron's Call I have never had this problem. Yes I have run a healer in WOW, Rift, EQ2, Asheron's Call(which does allow for AdddOns, AC does not allow for Unattended Combat Macro Addons) and Ive run healers in games like Lineage 2, SWTOR, SWG, and RF Online(which dont allow for AddOns) and can tell you the amount of AddOns on my User Interface does NOT prevent me from keeping the 5 Man Dungeon Group or the 25 Man Raid Group from Dying. Also as I have Stated before if it wasnt for AddOns majority of the additions to the MMO's that do allow them would not have come to fruition. WOW is prime example of this. One example of this is Quest Tracking on the Map that was originally an AddOn created by a player. Another good example is at the very beginning of WOrld of Warcraft you could only track 4 quests, now thanks to a player you can track up to 8. Some of the things that Players create could be added to the game by the Dev's without any involvement from the Players but that would take away from the Devs time to fix bugs and balance the game.

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  • waynejr2waynejr2 West Toluca Lake, CAPosts: 4,476Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Tayah
    Just no Add-ons please

     Thank you!

  • waynejr2waynejr2 West Toluca Lake, CAPosts: 4,476Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by akiira69
    I love how people are so against AddOns yet not a single one has put up a valid reason for such hatred.

     It's been talked about so many times it isn't funny.  Generally it's an unfair advantage.  As one of the tests if a addon is an unfair advantage if someone said you can install the addon as well, that's a sign it's too powerful.

    Plus you get those who like to have those messages telling them what button to push.  Or they get lazy and not work at healing and want special addons to make it simple for them.

     

  • RealLifeGobboRealLifeGobbo Yorktown, VAPosts: 218Member


    Originally posted by waynejr2
    Originally posted by akiira69 I love how people are so against AddOns yet not a single one has put up a valid reason for such hatred.
     It's been talked about so many times it isn't funny.  Generally it's an unfair advantage.  As one of the tests if a addon is an unfair advantage if someone said you can install the addon as well, that's a sign it's too powerful.

    Plus you get those who like to have those messages telling them what button to push.  Or they get lazy and not work at healing and want special addons to make it simple for them.


    One of the threads Waynejr2 is talking about can be seen here:
    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm?thread=379958&val=1&uh=3D4B5174191B600A8DB58BEE1D3A80F5

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  • belatucadrosbelatucadros Toronto, ONPosts: 263Member

    Honestly as long as there's a good healer UI I won't care.

    Addons can be great though. And it's possible to do without balance issues - if the devs focus on that.

    WAR did far better than WOW, let's have CU do far better than WAR.

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  • MukeMuke BredaPosts: 2,172Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by NegativeX
    Figure I'd start a thread, where we can all discuss the pro's and con's of a custom UI and your opinion(s) as to why.Not sure if it has even been officially talked about yet, by the powers to be.  Personally I loved the ability to skin my own UI's. Because lets face it, there's thousands of different people with a thousand of different ways they prefer things to be setup and the overall look & feel of things.The only thing I'm personally against is the extra extensions that could give a slight advantage or make certain aspects of the game easier, beyond just the visual. WoW was/is a great offender in this instance.  Opinions? Thoughts?

    Definately yes.
    It adds to the life expectancy of the game, to the fun of the gamer that has issues with the basic UI.

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