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PS3 has a very important advantage over PC - with PS3 you can't cheat with extra software.
This will be very important soon in DUST when planetary battles will be introduced - far more will be at stake.
A big problem with Planetside 2 is that everything is reset every day. Your victories are temporary. With Eve that won't be the case. Someone will have to beat you for your terratory - until then, you will get all the benefits from keeping it.
You can 'own' as big a part of the Eve universe as you want to - that is one important difference.
There is talk of battles having more players than 24 x 24 in DUST, but don't forget, DUST is very much still in beta.
Dust has been improved by leaps and bounds since this thread was started. Also keep in mind that the game is in beta---it seems a lot of people in this thread are treating the game like it's already been released.
As for it being a PS3 exclusive, that is only true for the first year of it's life. After that, it can go anywhere, including the PC. Also keep in mind that Dust probably wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Sony's funding, hence the PS exclusivity contract.
They can adjust a game all day, but they can't help the issue between the keyboard and the chair.
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I think people skip over posts or ignore or deny their existence ill put it in caps
"I'm not going to play DUST because it is PS3 Exclusive, and i am a PC player that playes EVE"
DUST'S TARGET AUDIENCE IS NOT AIMED FOR YOU TO BEGIN WITH!
THEY DON'T WANT THE PC CROWD!
Hopefully that is clear enough.
I know a few things.
1. Dust is on Ps3 only.
2. I don't Own a Ps3.
3. Nor will I buy one for Dust.
4. I would play it on x360.
5. But it isn't there, so fuck it.
Playstation hasn't been cool since about 1997, when ff7 was released. lol, btw POE has a system like materia, hence why I am playing the hell out of that during the week, and putting shit in front of my barrel on the weekends with my buddies on xbox.
I would go further and say all games consoles are not cool because they don't have the versitility of a PC.
But oh well, never mind.
So you agree everything you said was complete horse ****. Thank you.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Yeah, I have to agree, cause thats all consoles are, stripped down computers, with severly less function, my droid phone can do more for me than any console, pretty damn sad.
It will be interesting to find out how close to PCs the next generation of consoles heads. Something as simple as mouse/kybd support and a fully functioning modern browser would make a rather large leap in that direction.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
since you can't bother reading 1 post over yours, here i quoted it for you
If you're annoyed that Dust isn't available on the 360, then let Microsoft know you're unhappy about it. CCP wanted to launch it on both consoles, but MS refused to let them give free updates and expansions, or use game severs that MSoft didn't own.
Give me liberty or give me lasers
1) It's not meant to appeal to the original fanbase, but to a new fanbase. CCP is looking to expand their market, so they're looking toward consoles which have a very different userbase than PC mmo's.
2) See 1). The game is not supposed to appeal to EVE players, but console FPS players.
3) Dust DOES run on Tranquility. You CAN talk to people in EVE.
4) You're repeating your earlier points again. See 1 and 2.
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Give me liberty or give me lasers
Out of my core group of friends in EVE I'd say 4 play Dust 514 already out of around 20 individuals , Hell my former CEO went full Dust 514, he still logs onto EVE mind you but way less than he used to. So I'd say just on that merit alone Dust 514 is a mild success among EVE fans and before you even ask 2 of those 4 bought PS3s specifically to play Dust.
That said I was one of the guys pissed that CCP wasn't bringing Dust 514 to the PC anytime soon but after I calmed down and actually did a little research into their motives it makes sense because Sony offered to help fund development for Dust for exclusivity and while you may say what you want about the console crowd in general consoles themselves are good form factors for cross-linking experiments like these.
Hopefully it will further improve after release when combat should feel more meaningful.
I think it needs rouge drone PvE.
I for one welcome our makeup-based overlords.
Give me liberty or give me lasers
Theres just so many hurdles here
two VERY competetive , but different player Groups are supposed to be working together as a team
theyre on TOTALLY different game systems,, alot of tech issues
imagine , two raids in different instances, but still relying on each others success for progression,,flame wars de luxe
cccp are trying to get new customers, to compensate for the PLEX accounts
i seriously doubt, that this will help them much
The problem with that assumption is, console players are NOT looking for Eve type of games.
They are looking for quick and dirty - ie. games that they can just jump in a shoot a few folks online after work and then switch off and watch movie.
Dust will be a game that you need to care, need to make friends and play for hours on end. Thus it seems to be aiming for the wrong niche and wrong audience.