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Originally posted by Bladestrom Originally posted by Sephiroso Originally posted by Bladestrom Originally posted by Hrimnir Originally posted by Ginaz Someone obviously has never watched porn. Contrary to what some people think, video games aren't just for kids anymore. The avergae gamer is in their 30's. Yes, it looks sexist. Yes, it looks like utter crap. The great thing is if you don't like it then you don't have to buy it. If enough people do this then the game will die. If that doesn't happen and it becomes popular...yay capitalism? Different strokes () for different folks. Edit: I bet the OP has no problem killing thousands of virtual people and creatures in an MMO but boobies??? STOP THE FREAKING BUS!!!
Yep, love that. You can have a game where you can tear someone's arm out of their socket, and proceed to beat them and several other people to death with it while blood is squirting all over the place, or rip someones throat out with your bare hands. Or run around with a chainsaw decapitating people.
But the moment there is a nipple on the screen AOPUWHERD)*!@Y!*YH)@$*#YH OOOOOOHHHH MY FUCCKING GOOODDDD !!!!!! THERE IS A... A..... A NIPPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SWEET MERCIFUL FUCK WHO LET THIS HAPPEN!>?!??!!!111
I Must admit I would play a violent game if it was fun here, but playing with sexualised child like characters is something I would feel deeply uncomfortable about and would not do. Nipples ok, nipples on children, um no. Adults playing such games - weird quite frankly or worse. Children should play neither.
edit, in reply to post above, i do not allow my children to play such games, although my teenager moans his face about it because some friends in his class are allowed to /9call of duty). Some parents are not on the ball (read some posts here - they will be parents eventually) and need support, i.e if this crap is removed, all to the good.
the only "children" in this game are the sentinels, and even then, they're covered by some moss type shit.
i didnt say children. You play this game?
Your previous post say's nipples on children um no.
Some day I'm going to put a sword through your eye and out the back of your skull!
Originally posted by Iselin Originally posted by Sovrath Originally posted by Yamota I would qualify this game as a soft core porn MMO.
Is there nudity and simulated sex?
If so then "yes" it's a soft core porn mmo.
If there isnt' then it isn't.
And I don't know if it has those things, all I see are the adverts which are not soft core porn.
I don't know dude...often, lack of nudity can be more porn than full nudity. To paraphrase Maria Muldaur, it ain't the clothes it's the presentation.
I would completely agree. Which is why when people start saying "they are just pixels" I have to break open that old trunk of "sex is in the mind" and "erotica" existed long before the camera. Which for some reason people can't grasp.
However "soft core porn" as a classification contatins casual nudity and has sexual situations except you dont' see any penetration or graphical presentations of genitalia or graphical presentations of any sex acts.
"The Opening of Misty Beethoven" is hard core porn. Something like "The Exterminating Angels" would be Soft Core.
Originally posted by Sovrath Originally posted by Iselin Originally posted by Sovrath Originally posted by Yamota I would qualify this game as a soft core porn MMO.
I'm old. Emanuelle is still my old-time favorute
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Originally posted by Iselin Originally posted by Sovrath Originally posted by Iselin Originally posted by Sovrath Originally posted by Yamota I would qualify this game as a soft core porn MMO.
lol, I assume you are talking about the Laura Gemser flicks? Those are awesome.
And I would say that "the opening of Misty Beethoven" is probably the best hardcore movie I know of as it came out at a time when they were still trying to make them as "movies" that contained adult content. So not only does it have higher production values but also has an actual story as well as some decent locations as sets.
Today people think of hardcore porn as just "hardcore sex" however it didn't initially start out that way.
Originally posted by Sovrath Originally posted by Warjin We live in sad, sad time people, very sad lol.
Well, that's one point of view. This is not my sort of game but I say "go kids, have fun and someday you will have the real thing".
Also "I know porn and this is not porn".
Yeah play a little on the game here and there, and find the anatomy proportions to be quite comical at times not sexual.
To touch on what Sovrath said, this is not even close to the softest core porn. The ability to unlock optional nudity is no worse than what a kid can see by signing up to art websites like Deviant Art.
Originally posted by Bladestrom I was paraphrasing obviously, no game has sexualised children, that would be illegal. We are talking about sexualised child-like avatars.
I'll just say that people are seeing something that isn't there.That's ok,some people don't like the game and what it's about.You feel a certain way and did say children,you see the game a certain way and I don't,doesn't change what was said.
I'm out,as this subject has been overdone the last few day's and in the end it doesn't change anything.
Originally posted by Stimos8 To all those people saying that its wrong for kids to see this sought of material, well has anyone used google lately? checked the rest of the internet? it is NOT WRONG there is a reason why we think about something, sex for example, and thats because we are capable and meant to do it. And yes i mean 12+ who thought about sex when they were atleast 12, or even younger? who wanted to do it? yes exactly. Also people are saying that its wrong for "child-like avatars" to be portrayed sexually, well, once again look at the rest of the internet. Before a games actually content is unfairly judged.
It is well documented that children are being sexualised and desensitised to sex at an earlier and eariler age, and thats not good. The internet is a big cause, and it is why responsible parents use parental controls, but thats only at home.. Children will have sexual thoughts, but that doesnt give licence for adults to market to this, they are CHILDREN, they are learning - porn isnt learing for example. Playing games that are 17+ rated with sexual avatars with assumable adults is repulsive (imo)
Oh so much double standards.
You kill and you slash and you see blood in every game yetl when you see a patch of skin is a scandal.
So, when a child dies in war it is just a casualty but when he sees a nude picture in game or tv it is abuse.
I would suggest this: lets censor all weapons from games. Right?
Originally posted by Bladestrom Im out as well, disturbing thread.
Omg, what is disturbing ? That you son might see some boobs on internet ? Welcome to reality, there are much worse things than some cartoon (not even naked) woman body :P
The old Emmanuel movies. Me and my buddies used to wait till mom and dad went to bed and stay up late watching those. I havent thought about those in years lol. Cinemax and young teenage boys. A match made in heaven.
Originally posted by Warjin Originally posted by tank017 Sex has been used to sell almost everything for years upon years..even games. If youre not used to it by now, I dont know what to tell you.
It's getting worse lol.
How can can the industry be getting any worse with the release of Scarlet Blade?
Has everyone forgotten about Age of Conan already?Naked women from ground zero? Hello?
Funcom already did it, and much more. The stupidity has reached its maximum limit on this thread; case solved.
However, lets get to the real point. I'm more offended by the crappy graphics and gameplay in this game over anything else. Seriously? Why would I want to play this game when it looks about 5 years old? Tera Online anyone?
I am personally a fan of the half naked women, two big thumbs up for me however. I rather not play a woman whos breasts are starting to look bigger than their heads... Can I get a scale to shrink the size please?
Originally posted by Bladestrom Originally posted by Hrimnir Originally posted by Ginaz Someone obviously has never watched porn. Contrary to what some people think, video games aren't just for kids anymore. The avergae gamer is in their 30's. Yes, it looks sexist. Yes, it looks like utter crap. The great thing is if you don't like it then you don't have to buy it. If enough people do this then the game will die. If that doesn't happen and it becomes popular...yay capitalism? Different strokes () for different folks. Edit: I bet the OP has no problem killing thousands of virtual people and creatures in an MMO but boobies??? STOP THE FREAKING BUS!!!
I'm not sure where you're getting this "child like characters" bit from. Take a look at screenshots of the game, the vast majority of the models are clearly adults, and to my knowledge there is one that could be made an argument is intended to represent a teenager. Unfortunately, thats a HUGELY common thing in the japanese culture. The whole asexual, "what age is this person", "Is it a boy or a girl", etc etc.
The reality comes back to that this is a M rated game, and like some others posters have said its the job of parents to regulate what their children are and aren't partaking in.
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
To be honest, Scarlet's Blade character models aren't any more porn than Guild Wars 2 or Tera. They just are honest about it.
Get over it really. You're buying games to murder people, the more blood you get the better. And this is what you find morally wrong? Seriously some people. This world is so screwed.
I think it also shows the sexual insecurity of the average mmo player. Maybe worth making a study of, by some Swede University or something like that.
My opinion is my own. I respect all other opinions and views equally, but keep in mind that my opinion will always be the best for me. That's why it's my opinion.
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989 Originally posted by Warjin Originally posted by tank017 .
Oh, why should I care... I don't even like the game. I laughed my ass off when I got into the character select screen.
Overall, this game is a joke from it's down right boring gameplay to its dated graphics. I don't think anyone should take offense to this game as far as 'nudity'. Games have been doing this for years now and like I've said, "Funcom already did it.'
Couldnt agree more with this post. I tried the game out for a couple of hours, and although its not terribad, its not good. Id rate it like a 4/10 as far as an actual MMO goes.
The sad part is that the game actually had features people have been begging for in games like wow, like a built in DPS meter. My favorite one that i literally LOL'd at:
You know you get a quest from someone to kill 10 rabid wolves, and you literally killed like 7 of them just on the way to the camp where the quest guy was/is. The game actually keeps track of that, so you only have to go out and kill 3 more instead of 10.
Also, the age of conan thing is funny from the start because he is right, nudity from the beginning. In Scarlet Blade you have to purchase a founders pack thing which has an item that can make the character "nude".
So yes, the thread has reached the height of absurdity
Originally posted by Hrimnir Originally posted by Mtibbs1989 Originally posted by Warjin Originally posted by tank017 .
I'll go ahead and throw in my review of Scarlet Blade too. I think you'll agree with my experience.
Quiz's(MTibbs) Review of Scarlet Blade!
Like I stated earlier, my little review for you:
The file size is roughly 1.9gigs which isn't bad for a new mmo these days. However when I see a mmo with such a small file size it typically means there's not a lot of content and or the art detail is low quality. I went ahead and installed the game and got it up and running within 30 minutes.
I went through the process of entering my secondary password and jumped into the character creation. Each of the characters are female and there are 6 classes to choose from: Defender, Shadow Walker, Whipper, Punisher, Sentinel, and Medic each have a different breast size aswell(it's actually a stat that they give for each class).
I questioned if I could scale their breast sizes back, to me I don't like em' that big and continued on with creating my medic (and no, you can't scale their breast sizes back by the way). After finishing with the character creation I jumped straight into the game.
Right off the back you find yourself in a square zone with almost no idea of what to do. If you haven't played the game before you'll end up walking around for a few minutes until you figure out you need to press a randomly located button that pops up on your screen. Which gives you your first quest to talk to some almost naked woman. Once you talk to her you walk to another one and the process repeats 3-4 more times until you're finally out in the beginner zone.
Alright! The fun is about to begin right? Not quite, when I entered the first zone I opened my map and I saw the most dreadful thing ever... a VERY linear map. While I was in the map screen I went ahead and looked at every zone and each one was just as linear as the next. I took a big gulp and said to myself, "well how bad could it be?".
I continued on and my first quest was to kill 5 bugs, standard right? Quest completed! I get the next quest to kill 5 more bugs... Quest completed! The game continues to follow a simila pattern of kill target X, X amount of time. I'd also like to point out that the collection quests are really kill quests in disguse which only require to kill X mobs to get X items. The quests were exactly the same until I quit which was around level 15.
The game is not very fun. It's slow, boring, and painfully repetitive right from the get go. But hey now! We get to look at 90% naked women while being bored out of our minds right? Right, that's about all the game has to offer 90% naked women walking around in an extremely linear game doing very generic quests.
However, if you do manage to get further than me in this game. You will get to partake in the PvP, so enjoy the grind if you think it's worth your time to mindlessly blow through the very linear game to experience 80v80 PvP.
Overall, this game is a joke from its down right boring gameplay to the dated graphics. I don't think anyone should take offense to this game as far as 'nudity'. Games have been doing this for years now and like I've said, "Funcom already did it. I however, would take offense to the low quality gameplay that they tried to cover up with naked women. Oh, and by the way. They state on some websites that this is the most anticipated MMO in 2012; http://event.mmosite.com/gameprize/webapps/?action=prize.
I hope you enjoy this little read through more than I enjoyed my playthrough of Scarlet Blade!
Anytime a game has to latch on to T&A to get people's attention is a warning that hte game is worthless.
Good games don't do this. Only worthless f2p asian clones.
Originally posted by Bladestrom Originally posted by Aori Originally posted by Bladestrom lol then either its aiming at those with a wee taste for peodophilia, or the advertising is aiming for teenagers and knowing all to well it appeals to teenagers not adults. Have you not seen them? they were pretty disturbing.
I've seen far worse in advertising, as for the pedo issue the models don't even look remotely childish. So far I haven't seen any ads that disturbed me from this game.
Teenagers have parents it is up to them to monitor what their child does. Also many adults like this stuff, if the game was decent i'd play it too. I see no issue since it doesn't contain rape or children.
Again it is what it is, get over it.
I dont need to get over anything, my opinion is that the models were childish and disturbing, and certaily not adult like. Parents should take responsiblity, but that does not excuse the sexualisation of models cleary aimed at children.
This particular style is popular in certain subsects of asian Hentai and anime and has a very large group of adult followers. A lot of 20 somethings in the western culture has picked up on that, so there is an adult market here.Saying its aimed at kids is naive, although I can certainly understand the confusion.
Originally posted by Golelorn Anytime a game has to latch on to T&A to get people's attention is a warning that hte game is worthless. Good games don't do this. Only worthless f2p asian clones.
Tera and AoC are both good games. I'm afraid your claim doesn't hold up to the litmus. Sex sells(so does violence), and any product regardless of quality will take advantage of it.