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What will I be missing if I avoid Cyrodil completely?
Anofalye
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Beside the stories, landscapes, PvP and some players...
Will I be missing anything else? Or will somethings be extremely rare?
Will I be able to travel to everywhere else?
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This.
ESO wont be some roleplaying jizz fest, it's hopefully going to have some competitive RvRvR (Although I'm not sure how their.. cloud server thing will effect that)
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Oh pleasseee, the war never came to your homeland in any ES game, look at the last joke of an ES game - Skyrim. Where you could murder key figures in the realm and nothing would happen... where you could murder towns with no dramatic consequence... Ugh, the hypocrisy with ES fanboys...
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From what I understand, if you roll alts on the other factions, you can access most of the content other than Cyrodil.
As far as we've been told at this point, when you hit 50, you can unlock another factions territory, and when you complete that, you can unlock the third. Increasing difficulty/loot or some nonsense.
I think it was also said that it would be instanced, and you wouldn't see opposing players...
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The only war in Skyrim was between the Imperials and the Stormcloaks...and they DID fight right there in Skyrim. There was no other war taking place. Ugh, the hypocrisy with DaoC fanboys...
I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson
I never played daoc, seeing as that's your only argument, I suppose I win, but I will grant you this horse raddish.
I never noticed a war going on between anyone in Skyrim, just a bunch of silly dialogue, and I killed some guys, and I did some quests that didn't have any effect on anything... Tell me again how Skyrim was such an amazing game that ESO wont live up to...
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Well yeah, the mega server and the fact that you can go to the other realms pretty much ruins the RvR.
As you defend a game that gives you an entire world at war...that wont effect anything because its behind a wall...you win!
I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson
Actually, as a poit of note, you did come across groups of imperials and storm cloaks fighting.
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If you are PvE only, this is what I see. Playing each faction to see all the PvE content. Then the adventure zones may be out after that for more difficult PvE. It will probably come down to how well the PvP ends up. If there are problems with the PvP, they may put more into the PvE adventure zones to keep the PvE players happy. Because the PvP players will abandon ship very quickly if there are problems.
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R.A.Salvatore
Everything.
@OP
You will miss the entire point of this non-TES game. PVP
Zenimax is making a PVP oriented game because they are under the delusion that this will succeed.
When the few, very loudmouthed, pvp people get tired of the same old crap they've seen with different skins they will jump ship quickly just like in GW2 and the several dozen other games whose designers ignored the PVE crowd when we told them it was a stupid plan.
No you cannot go everywhere. You must grind your ass off to 50 and then you can go to an instanced version of the next area devoid of people and pointless in the extreme if you are playing this as an MMO.
After more pointless grinding you may go to the third area...also devoid of players for more utterly pointless grinding.
The concept of exploration is LOCKED - can't do it
The concept of character design freedom LOCKED - can't do it
Races are LOCKED - can't join and play with your friends unless they pick your faction
Skills are LOCKED by Race/Faction
This is not TES. It's PVP with TES names.
Welcome to another 3 month wonder that will be F2P in 6 months or less because the designers are dumbasses.
Never violate a woman, nor harm a child. Do not lie, cheat or steal. These things are for lesser men. Protect the weak against the evil strong. And never allow thoughts of gain to lead you into the pursuit of evil. Never back away from an enemy. Either fight or surrender. It is not enough to say I will not be evil. Evil must be fought wherever it is found.The Iron Code"
Might miss on some of the exciting Darkness Falls style open dungeons they have planned.
One thing people need to understand is that Cyrodill is not a PvP zone inasmuch as it is a brand new zone to explore which features PvP. Think of it as playing WoW on a PvP server. Theres going to be lots of PvE elements inside the zone and in theory if its large enough should be able to treat it as a large open world PvP enabled zone.
At least that is how I am going to treat it, not a fan of PvP any longer (for various reasons) but I am interested in some of those elements that spice up PvE. Whether it be Farming for mats (which already stated some mats are native to Cyrodill), exploring open dungeons and aquiring new gear/loot.
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
the war in skyrim was optional, if you did join one of the factions though, there were several battles to get involved in, i think the first as a stormcloak was the attack on windhelm, but there were numerous other battle sites scattered around skyrim, mostly outdoors. There was also a tactical map which was literally a table with a map on it, with coloured pins noting positions of armies etc, the first time you see one of those is when you are talking to the jarl of dragon reach and he asks you to help kill the dragon attacking the nearby watchtower.
as someone who has played both DAoC and TES though, i do have several comparisons to make, the first is that although ESO is being compared to DAoC, on closer examination, it lacks a lot of the features that DAoC had to encourage Realm pride, the first of which was that whichever server you were on, you fought together if you chose to join in the RvR battle, i say chose, DAoC oddly enough wasnt primarily focused on PVP, it was as much a PVE game as anything, and the PVP didnt even become an option until players reached a certain level, also ESO will have multiple instances, and i don't mean cyrodil, although that will be split into multiple instances too called 'campaigns' which your assigned to when you create your character in the game, you can move between them, but it takes time, but the world itself outside of Cyrodil is also instanced, and the people you play alongside in those instances is fluid, dependant on numbers in the game, even so, the people you are playing alongside in each of the PVE areas, won't all be playing in the same campaigns in cyrodil as you are, which means that the 'cameraderie' so to speak that existed in DAoC, or Realm pride, will be a struggle to achieve in ESO anyway. And this is probably why the lands in ESO are seperated, because their all instanced travelling between Realms isnt that easy, and will involve some kind of zoning/teleport method though i can imagine that Zenimax is probably still working on the details for that one, and thats without getting into all the phasing thats going on in those instances
so while DAoC might not have anything in common with Skyrim, ESO by the looks of things, will have very little in common with either DAoC or Skyrim, beyond a map and maybe, the fact that there are 3 factions in the game
Ya its but still a shame that a big region like cyrodil is being wasted on making a pvp map. People who loved oblivion is going to go in cyrodil and be like wtf? The only way ill be happy about cyrodil is if there are still PvE parts you can do in it like all the caves and dungeons you can explore on my own or with a group while the pvp objectives are going on the outside.