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[Award] General: The PAX East 2013 Awards

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  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member
    Originally posted by Arcona

    Most innovative? hmm

    Wildstar seems to take on classic MMORPG features

    while ESO does 4 player groups, no raids, build your class however you like, 3 sided Realm vs realm, one giant server, and finally makes a good AI. This time the NPCs will really work together. Not just the scripted ones.

    What innovations did wildstar do?

     

    Most, if not all, of the things you listed from ESO aren't innovations.  I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

  • ArconaArcona VanlosePosts: 1,185Member
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    Originally posted by Arcona

    Most innovative? hmm

    Wildstar seems to take on classic MMORPG features

    while ESO does 4 player groups, no raids, build your class however you like, 3 sided Realm vs realm, one giant server, and finally makes a good AI. This time the NPCs will really work together. Not just the scripted ones.

    What innovations did wildstar do?

     

    Most, if not all, of the things you listed from ESO aren't innovations.  I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

    okay, if one mmorpg did them 15 years ago, its not innovative, even though the 5000 mmorpgs that came after did not do them?

    ....

  • jtcgsjtcgs New Port Richey, ILPosts: 1,777Member

    "Best of the show Nominees – WildStar, Marvel Heroes Online, FireFall, NeverWinter, Elder Scrolls Online"

    Guess that explains how TESO won...best of the meh!

     BTW Arcone...Innovative is innovative. Doing something that hasnt been done in years is rehashing old ideas.
     
    Its like saying you invented the lightbulb, because no one else invented it again in the last 100 years...

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  • jtcgsjtcgs New Port Richey, ILPosts: 1,777Member
    Originally posted by Arcona
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    Originally posted by Arcona

    Most innovative? hmm

    Wildstar seems to take on classic MMORPG features

    while ESO does 4 player groups, no raids, build your class however you like, 3 sided Realm vs realm, one giant server, and finally makes a good AI. This time the NPCs will really work together. Not just the scripted ones.

    What innovations did wildstar do?

     

    Most, if not all, of the things you listed from ESO aren't innovations.  I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

    okay, if one mmorpg did them 15 years ago, its not innovative, even though the 5000 mmorpgs that came after did not do them?

    ....

     

     Innovative is innovative, taking something that was done a long time ago is REHASHING OLD IDEAS.

    If someone made a new car with a hand crank start, would they call that innovative? No...

    “I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson

  • waynejr2waynejr2 West Toluca Lake, CAPosts: 4,470Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by FromHell
    Originally posted by Mannish

    What about Black Desert Online? It looks better then any of those games listed.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2DCNJx_0aQ

    That my friend, is the 100 million dollar question.

    Also:

    what about World of Darkness?

    what about ArcheAge?

     

     Did those games go to pax?  If not, what do they have to hide that they don't want people to see at pax?

  • zellmerzellmer Fakesville, WIPosts: 442Member

    Dayz and Warz can just disappear into nothingness for all I care anyore..

    But indeed Marvel Heroes is surprisingly fun and addictive even though it's nothing like you would probably expect out of a 'super hero game".

    A lot of the other ones are still a coin flip really. 

  • ForumPvPForumPvP KingstownPosts: 871Member
    Originally posted by Arcona

    Most innovative? hmm

    Wildstar seems to take on classic MMORPG features

    while ESO does 4 player groups, no raids, build your class however you like, 3 sided Realm vs realm, one giant server, and finally makes a good AI. This time the NPCs will really work together. Not just the scripted ones.

    What innovations did wildstar do?

     

    Anarchy Online ,one gigantic server,  3 sided realm, neuts vs omnis vs clans,PvP allmost everywhere real world pvp,stupid instance pvp added later and many PvPrs left the game.

    not so sure about those ESO  *innovations*

     

     

    Let's internet

  • FusionFusion VaasaPosts: 1,391Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by adam_nox
    Originally posted by Abefroman
    [mod edit]

    uh and out of the competition listed, you would have picked .....?

    Definitely Wildstar

    Currently playing: -

    Waiting for: Class4.

    Dead and Buried: ESO, NWO, GW2, SWTOR, Darkfall, AO, AC2, Vanguard, CoH/V, EnB, EVE, Neocron, FE, EQ, EQ2, DAoC, FFXI, FFXIV, SWG, WoW, and billions of eastern junks!

  • VannorVannor YorkshirePosts: 2,968Member Uncommon

    TESO is a maybe, DayZ is an aquired taste...

    Other than that.. looks like a whole load of rubbish to me.

    Neverwinter destroyed my dreams (thankfully I didn't have to pay for it). Marvel Heroes is just.. kinda.. pointless. Many, and mean MANY, people are going to be very let down by MH. Wildstar looks like a clone and will be treated as one (by me) until it proves otherwise.

     
  • snapfusionsnapfusion San, CAPosts: 954Member
    Originally posted by Burntvet
    Know what this really reminds me of? T-ball for 6-year olds where everyone gets a trophy. Is there any MMO being released this year that did not get an award? All it is, is marketing in another form. "Most Anticipated"? "Most Innovative"? What a crock... all this will do is fuel another round of advertisements for the same old "meh" games that developers are shoveling these days.

     

  • strangiato2112strangiato2112 Richmond, VAPosts: 1,538Member Common
    Originally posted by Arcona

     

    while ESO does 4 player groups,

     

    1.  SWTOR did this already

    2.  It is viewed by most as a negative.  groups should be 6+, with 5 barely tolerable, not 4.  Only time a group smaller than 5 is acceptable is if the main group size is bigger and you are just giving a few smaller options for a change of pace.

  • redcappredcapp brook, NYPosts: 722Member
    I really can't understand the hype marvel heroes is getting on this site.  It isn't even an MMO.
  • NotoriousXNotoriousX Grande Cache, ABPosts: 192Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by toljar
    I'm shocked at the DayZ, with all the negative that game gets from screwing fans over to just not being a great developer. None the less, I hope they do succeed and what they are setting out to do.

    I think you are thinking of The War Z

    hahaha as soon as i started reading your comment i cracked lauching hahha good one :)

     

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  • Ramonski7Ramonski7 Aurora, ILPosts: 2,656Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by jtcgs
    Originally posted by Arcona
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    Originally posted by Arcona

    Most innovative? hmm

    Wildstar seems to take on classic MMORPG features

    while ESO does 4 player groups, no raids, build your class however you like, 3 sided Realm vs realm, one giant server, and finally makes a good AI. This time the NPCs will really work together. Not just the scripted ones.

    What innovations did wildstar do?

     

    Most, if not all, of the things you listed from ESO aren't innovations.  I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

    okay, if one mmorpg did them 15 years ago, its not innovative, even though the 5000 mmorpgs that came after did not do them?

    ....

     

     Innovative is innovative, taking something that was done a long time ago is REHASHING OLD IDEAS.

    If someone made a new car with a hand crank start, would they call that innovative? No...

    But starting your car with voice activation would be right? Even though you're still just starting a car...

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  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member
    Originally posted by Arcona
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    Originally posted by Arcona

    Most innovative? hmm

    Wildstar seems to take on classic MMORPG features

    while ESO does 4 player groups, no raids, build your class however you like, 3 sided Realm vs realm, one giant server, and finally makes a good AI. This time the NPCs will really work together. Not just the scripted ones.

    What innovations did wildstar do?

     

    Most, if not all, of the things you listed from ESO aren't innovations.  I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

    okay, if one mmorpg did them 15 years ago, its not innovative, even though the 5000 mmorpgs that came after did not do them?

    ....

    One MMORPG?  15 years ago?  Uhhh....... again I ask, what innovations are you talking about that makes TESO so special and Wildstar so unspecial?  Or any other MMO for that matter in comparison to TESO?

    4 player groups?  Hey, here's an idea... don't add a 5th person to your group.  Oh, and SWTOR's flashpoints were 4-man.

    No raids?  I'm not even going to bother listing all of the MMOs that already do this.

    3 side realm vs. realm?  Did DAOC come out 15 years ago?  No, not really.  And then there's Guild Wars 2.

    One giant server?  Yeah, that's all instanced and phased, thus separating you into channels anyway....

    As for the AI, I think someone else mentioned it, but it bears repeating since you and a friend of mine among others, are so excited over something they have not seen in action.  "Good" is relative on top of that.  How many games since Goldeneye for the N64 have touted "game-changing AI", including MMO's? 

    Build your class however you like?  That's the only one I've seen that's even close to being more than just your own personal hype train, and I admit it's the one thing on your list I'm actually excited about. 

    And to answer your question...... um... yeah, if one game does it and another does it after, it's still not innovative.  I think you should look up the word and generally not get overhyped.  It'll be less painful if the game isn't good.

  • urbanmechurbanmech Toronto, ONPosts: 169Member Uncommon
    I played Elder Scrolls at PAX East. Kinda really.. meh. The combat is still hotbar centric, with a lot of "wack at each other, until someone dies". Yes you can click to attack instead of auto attack, but thats it. It has none of the Skyrim dynamic combat everyone is thinking it will.
  • JRRNeiklotJRRNeiklot Decatur, ALPosts: 108Member
    Neverwinter most anticipated?  I'd rather "anticipate" a kidney stone.
  • NobleNerdNobleNerd Wolcott, NYPosts: 671Member Uncommon

      After my play through on beta 3 for Neverwinter I can say it has me wanting more. It is NOT a true D&D game, but what it does do it does well and I enjoyed myself during beta. All though there is much negative for TESO I am still looking forward to actually playing it whenever beta gets around to letting me in :P. I too was hoping to hear more about ArchAge, but maybe they didn't go to this one. Also with Rift looming in the unknown for West users and the East failures maybe Trion isn't the best choice to publish this game in the West. I was glad to see no Defiance mention... played the beta....deleted the game all in one day and now they haven't released yet and they are marketing a DLC package, LOL (can you say greeding the hype and milking the cow).

     All in all I am not overly excited for many games coming out, but it would be nice to have a game that really draws me in and keeps me for longer than a few months.

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  • DavisFlightDavisFlight Talahasee, FLPosts: 2,556Member
    How are games like Dayz considered hybrid MMOs, when they're more like real MMORPGs than games like Elderscrolls Online and other instanced BS?
  • goozmaniagoozmania chino, CAPosts: 145Member Uncommon

    "The fact that it was such a strong combination of Skyrim-styled combat..."

    This quote dumbfounds me. I've not known anyone who enjoyed the combat of Skyrim. Everyone has said that combat was its weakest feature. And if you've ever watched someone playing Skyrim with any kind of melee weapon, you will be bored to tears.

  • BookahBookah Bar Harbor, MEPosts: 259Member
    Originally posted by VastoHorde

    What about Black Desert Online? It looks better then any of those games listed.

     

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2DCNJx_0aQ

     

     woaahh (Not @ pax) but this looks pretty exellent, looks like a new graphic engine. There looking for a wesern pulisher now i guess.

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  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member
    Originally posted by goozmania

    "The fact that it was such a strong combination of Skyrim-styled combat..."

    This quote dumbfounds me. I've not known anyone who enjoyed the combat of Skyrim. Everyone has said that combat was its weakest feature. And if you've ever watched someone playing Skyrim with any kind of melee weapon, you will be bored to tears.

    I thought I was alone!

  • RogoshRogosh MIPosts: 182Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    Originally posted by goozmania

    "The fact that it was such a strong combination of Skyrim-styled combat..."

    This quote dumbfounds me. I've not known anyone who enjoyed the combat of Skyrim. Everyone has said that combat was its weakest feature. And if you've ever watched someone playing Skyrim with any kind of melee weapon, you will be bored to tears.

    I thought I was alone!

     

    Couldnt agree more, the combat was so boring.

    "Its better to look ugly and win than pretty and lose"

  • EtherignisEtherignis philadelphia, PAPosts: 246Member
    I want news on BnS, the outlander, repopulation, archeage, cabal 2
  • WizardryWizardry Ontario, CanadaPosts: 8,424Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by VastoHorde
    Also what about Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn?

    Well it si PAX EAST AWARDS not open gaming in general.MMORPG already told us the ywere dissappointed in Square's showing at PAx,not that i am surprised,they are big in Japan,not here in N.America.

    IMO and i am never afraid to speak my mind becuase i don't kiss ass not make shit up but....

    I think Elder Scrolls was a good choice for best of show,imo it is the best game of all of those mentioned.

    The other categories , i also don't have a huge problem with.

    I do kind of find it tough to say Neverwinter is most anticipated,i get around to alot of sites and i would say this  is not so.However,i myself need to remember this is based ONLY on PAx,so we should all accept thier opinions as i do accept them.

    If i were to base opinion just on my opinion,i woudl say no doubt FFXIV blows the doors of of every one of those games excpet maybe Elder Scrolls.We still don't know enough abotu Elder yet to give it a faIr opinion.

     


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