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Dear ZOS, Please Don't Let Paul Sage Wreck This Game...
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I support this 100%
Exactly...
I don't think ZoS knows exactly what the final decision is going to be. There won't be open world PvP in non-Cyrodil zones regardless so if we do interact with the other faction it will be mainly for PvE. It can work and I don't see it being a big deal. We can hold hands in non-Cyrodil areas but the competitive spirit can come alive in PvP. I have some of the best PvP against people I know and personal friends. Sometimes fights between friends are the most brutal.
Ya I always enjoyed pvp in the open world where its spontaneous than a battle ground you sign up for. Cyrodil is just a glorified battle ground.
When the final product is live, I'll play it and if I don't find it that entertaining, I'll just move on.
I suggest you do the same. It's just another videogame.
Exactly. The only time we would actively fight an opposing faction would be in Cyrodill anyway. So why care about what is going on in the PvE part of Tamriel? Me being able to play with my friends from lvl 1 regardless of race choice does not diminish my will to PvP in the least. Quite the opposite really because now I have a lot fo fun in the PvE part and can call it Elder Scrolls and also enjoy PvP when I feel like it
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If Paul Sage gets his way, then yes... The ElTOR Scrolls Online. heh
As always:
It's called Elder Scrolls Online, not Dark Age of Camelot 2. They were trying to get the huge TES fanbase into the game, and as such they have to actually pay attention to the interests of the Elder Scrolls fans. If they'd done their game with a new world and campaign, no one would be here complaining. Of course, they might not sell nearly as many copies, hence the leveraging of the Elder Scrolls world.
There are many interested in the game who don't care about manufactured 'faction pride', or the other shoehorned-in PVP aspects. We'll see how much of a strategic error that turns out to be. Failure of vision, imo. The game should have really used something like the Vanguard model for its design. While it wouldn't appeal to the DAoC crew, it would definitely fit the fans of Morrowind, Skyrim, et al.
I can understand the DAoC fans being a little antsy about this, but that's what can happen with mismatches. Sales have to scale properly with the money invested in building the game. And sales of Skyrim alone would probably dwarf the Dark Ages numbers.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
I sort of lost interest in this one when the factions were announced. Maybe it was because I was on the Alliance, but I never knew 'faction pride' even existed. I guess that explains why everybody on the Horde tried so hard. Pride in a game like Shadowbane actually mattered; pride in a game where the developers make the teams... I just don't get it. Maybe this attitude is a holdover from DAoC- there were/are (lol) some pretty rabid players; but I was too busy playing AC at the time to care- again, a game where you get to decide who you is part of your team.
How did you get the satatus you have with a thread like this? Should be kicked to one star until you can curb your exaggerated ideas.
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More rumors about rumors, eh?
If they think separating the factions caused a backlash, just wait for the shitstorm that will hit them if they back away from it.
It wouldn't even be about whether it's a better or worse design, it'd be about a group of developers acting like clueless clowns with no idea where they're going with this.
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So I dont get really get it if this is all true.
Does that mean you can walk into the other faction whenever you want and there is no more instanced off/invisible walls before level 50? Or maybe they just mean you can dungeon with them before 50 or something.
Does that mean you can randomly go meet your friend in the other faction and somehow be on the same questline as him?
I'd ask why there would even be factions then, but it's obvious that Cyrodill is a big selling point for their end-game. But really it feels like there shouldnt be factions anymore if that is their plan. I remember in WoW people would go on the forums to talk to the players of other factions. That'll be weird that you can fully talk with them.. And a big part of end game being alliance vs alliance vs alliance.
Don't know if anyone bothered to link Richie Procopio's video in question so here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/user/bogotter
Notice that he's saying things like: "I got the sense that..." "he alluded to..." and equally vague garbage. There are no hard facts here just more speculaltion from the same dude that wrote the original article that's contrary to what everyone else wrote.
I wouldn't worry about it.
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So it seems that finally they realise that faction locking the races is going to cause problems, fine if they really want to capture the DAoC playerbase (all 250k of them
) but if they want to grab a significant portion of the Elder Scrolls players (millions..
) then maybe they have to make the game enough like Elder Scrolls to entice them in, and if that means opening up the world rather than faction locking the areas, then thats what they will have to do, Elder Scrolls players will often have a 'racial favourite' type which they play from game to game, if they want to do this in ESO and still be able to play with their friends who might also have a 'personal favourite' then the game is going to have to be able to support it.
Its fine to leave cyrodil as the PVP area, i don't think anyone is really complaining about that, at least not much, but by allowing the PVE players to just play the game without some crazy restrictions will only make the game more popular. Some of them might even end up joining the PVP'ers in Cyrodil, how is that not a Win Win for both camps?
Cryodiil doesn't sound anything like gw2's wvw zone, it sounds much larger... and by the look of the map, I would say if it fits the same ratio, its pretty damn big.
Also looks more like warhammer pvp zones, where all sides inevitably come to the same area to play the game, and contension happens - it was a great system! (war just messed it up)
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