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GW2 is one of the key contributors for PC software sales in 2012

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  • XiaokiXiaoki White Pigeon, MIPosts: 2,601Member Uncommon

    Some sales figures we know


    Minecraft is over 20 million across all platforms

    Diablo 3 sold over 10 million

    WoW MoP sold 2.7 million in a week

    GW2 sold 3 million in 4 months


    I think the real news story here is that the worldwide PC games industry is at $20 billion and China accounts for a 1/3 of that.

  • PurutzilPurutzil East Stroudsburg, PAPosts: 2,923Member Uncommon

    Oh joy. How I'm some random guy and I'm going to associate that the growth of PC software based off the fact Angry Birds is now on Chrome for free. Just saying.

     

    Yeah, the article itself is really quite silly. Diablo 3 we all know is a rather poor game for its genre. Minecraft can just as easily be sold on Mac and Guildwars 2, yeah, its not that stunning of a selling for call as a 'key contributor', I mean Mists of Pandoria outsold it a good deal I'm pretty sure and yet it wasn't mentioned.

     

    I'll go let that article writer on some site I've never heard of have fun with apparently his three favorite games and neglecting to really give any proof to something that is virtually impossible to prove. 

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,187Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Purutzil

    Oh joy. How I'm some random guy and I'm going to associate that the growth of PC software based off the fact Angry Birds is now on Chrome for free. Just saying.

     

    Yeah, the article itself is really quite silly. Diablo 3 we all know is a rather poor game for its genre. Minecraft can just as easily be sold on Mac and Guildwars 2, yeah, its not that stunning of a selling for call as a 'key contributor', I mean Mists of Pandoria outsold it a good deal I'm pretty sure and yet it wasn't mentioned.

     

    I'll go let that article writer on some site I've never heard of have fun with apparently his three favorite games and neglecting to really give any proof to something that is virtually impossible to prove. 

    MoP outsold GW2 by a good deal?  I've been looking for those figures.  Can you post a link?

  • WizardryWizardry Ontario, CanadaPosts: 8,423Member Uncommon

    Media can tend to infalte numbers to make their article seem relevant.

    I have no doubt that GW2 was a major seller but some of the stuff in that article is flat out misleading.

    You can't really use the term MARKET when claiming 1 billion pc gamers.There has been absolutely ZERO indication of that in Europe and NA.Matter fo fact ,i watch all games and releases closely and i have seen almost no growth at all.I do however agree that China and maybe other Asian markets are growing rapidly.

    However assuming it will go from 1 billion to 25 billion in next three years is insane,i would definitely bet against that.

    I don't know who DFA is but PCGA PC gaming alliance,is using a nice way to get notice of their supposed  [non profit] organization,by posting big numbers.

     

     

     

     


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  • FionFion Montour Falls, NYPosts: 2,351Member
    I get a laugh each time I see a post from someone who clearly is pissed that GW2 is doing so well. I'm happy for Anet, they changed the game. Wow continues to die at an increasingly rapid rate and future titles are already adapting (see TESO). It wasn't the biggest seller of the year, but it sold more MMOG boxes than anyone else, including Blizzard. You gotta give props to them no matter what your feelings toward Guild Wars 2.

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  • Ramonski7Ramonski7 Aurora, ILPosts: 2,656Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Fion
    I get a laugh each time I see a post from someone who clearly is pissed that GW2 is doing so well. I'm happy for Anet, they changed the game. Wow continues to die at an increasingly rapid rate and future titles are already adapting (see TESO). It wasn't the biggest seller of the year, but it sold more MMOG boxes than anyone else, including Blizzard. You gotta give props to them no matter what your feelings toward Guild Wars 2.

    It's really funny how your post amounts to taking the knife out of  GW2's back just to firmly plant it in WoW's. All it does is really enforce the notion that you're nothing more than the other side of the same coin. Bit of advice...next time you dislodge the knife, drop it.

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  • FionFion Montour Falls, NYPosts: 2,351Member
    I have nothing against WoW. I played it for years and had a lot of fun doing so.  I'm certainly not someone who goes on that games forum here and bashes it. I was just stating a fact. WoW is still losing subscribers at a dramatic rate. MoP didn't stem the tide and free transfers will probably be a temporary solution. Gaming changes, I simply stated that GW2's design changes from 'standard themeparks' is and will continue to have an impact on the future of the genre thanks to it's success.

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  • GreenHellGreenHell ludlow, MAPosts: 1,322Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Fion
    I have nothing against WoW. I played it for years and had a lot of fun doing so.  I'm certainly not someone who goes on that games forum here and bashes it. I was just stating a fact. WoW is still losing subscribers at a dramatic rate. MoP didn't stem the tide and free transfers will probably be a temporary solution. Gaming changes, I simply stated that GW2's design changes from 'standard themeparks' is and will continue to have an impact on the future of the genre thanks to it's success.

    I need a link to some recent numbers please.

  • HrimnirHrimnir Qeynos, COPosts: 1,597Member Uncommon

    Man you guys really are reaching:

    "Games like Diablo 3 (pictured), Guild Wars 2, and Minecraft are credited for bolstering the industry, in spite of the decline of subscription MMOs and increased competition from mobile games."

    Does NOT equal "GW2 is one of the key contributors".  Stop making crap up.

    Lets do some numbers, $50/pop x 3 million copies sold = USD150,000,000

    150,000,000 / 20,000,000,000 = .0075, or less than 1 percent of the overall total sales figures for the year.

    3/4th of 1% is not "KEY" contributor.

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  • YamotaYamota LondonPosts: 6,620Member
    Originally posted by Xiaoki

    Some sales figures we know


    Minecraft is over 20 million across all platforms

    Diablo 3 sold over 10 million

    WoW MoP sold 2.7 million in a week

    GW2 sold 3 million in 4 months


    I think the real news story here is that the worldwide PC games industry is at $20 billion and China accounts for a 1/3 of that.

    Yep. Funny how fanboys keep twisting facts to make their game look better and at the same time blame haters for doing the opposite.

    And where does it say "key contributor"?

  • dllddlld GöteborgPosts: 541Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Hrimnir

    Man you guys really are reaching:

    "Games like Diablo 3 (pictured), Guild Wars 2, and Minecraft are credited for bolstering the industry, in spite of the decline of subscription MMOs and increased competition from mobile games."

    Does NOT equal "GW2 is one of the key contributors".  Stop making crap up.

    Lets do some numbers, $50/pop x 3 million copies sold = USD150,000,000

    150,000,000 / 20,000,000,000 = .0075, or less than 1 percent of the overall total sales figures for the year.

    3/4th of 1% is not "KEY" contributor.

    True, even diablo 3 box sales is really a drop in the ocean.

  • DoogiehowserDoogiehowser ParisPosts: 1,873Member

    GW2 fans are their own worst enemy. The article wasn't just about GW2 but you somehow managed to make it just about GW2.

    Bravo!! and then you guys wonder why GW2 gets so much flak around here.

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  • FromHellFromHell NY, NYPosts: 1,311Member

    Like McDonalds is a key contributer to hamburger sales?

    quick run off the mill mass market appeal, hooray and congratulations.

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  • AmjocoAmjoco Layton, UTPosts: 4,774Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Doogiehowser

    GW2 fans are their own worst enemy. The article wasn't just about GW2 but you somehow managed to make it just about GW2.

    Bravo!! and then you guys wonder why GW2 gets so much flak around here.

    Enemy of what? o.O

    The guy just posted an article, he never even mentioned being a fan. In fact he could have just been the opposite and been being sarcastic.

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  • DoogiehowserDoogiehowser ParisPosts: 1,873Member
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Originally posted by Doogiehowser

    GW2 fans are their own worst enemy. The article wasn't just about GW2 but you somehow managed to make it just about GW2.

    Bravo!! and then you guys wonder why GW2 gets so much flak around here.

    Enemy of what? o.O

    The guy just posted an article, he never even mentioned being a fan. In fact he could have just been the opposite and been being sarcastic.

    Umm nope definitely a fan . And he is not being sarcastic either. I am still looking for the part where it says "GW2 is the key contributor'.

    "The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
    -Jesse Schell

    "Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
    -Luke McKinney

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  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter BristolPosts: 2,800Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Yamota
    Originally posted by Xiaoki

    Some sales figures we know


    Minecraft is over 20 million across all platforms

    Diablo 3 sold over 10 million

    WoW MoP sold 2.7 million in a week

    GW2 sold 3 million in 4 months


    I think the real news story here is that the worldwide PC games industry is at $20 billion and China accounts for a 1/3 of that.

    Yep. Funny how fanboys keep twisting facts to make their game look better and at the same time blame haters for doing the opposite.

    And where does it say "key contributor"?

    It is one of 3 games mentioned.

    GW2 is not released in a 1/3 of the market.

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  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member
    GW2 is a success and helped NCSoft out quite a bit.  Next on News from Yesterday.....
  • AmjocoAmjoco Layton, UTPosts: 4,774Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Yamota
    Originally posted by Xiaoki

    Some sales figures we know


    Minecraft is over 20 million across all platforms

    Diablo 3 sold over 10 million

    WoW MoP sold 2.7 million in a week

    GW2 sold 3 million in 4 months


    I think the real news story here is that the worldwide PC games industry is at $20 billion and China accounts for a 1/3 of that.

    Yep. Funny how fanboys keep twisting facts to make their game look better and at the same time blame haters for doing the opposite.

    And where does it say "key contributor"?

    Really no need to twist facts if you like the game and are a fan of it. The game speaks for itself if you like it. If you don't like it then you are not a fan! Simple Simon.

    I usually go by what my friends say about games first and then play them to see if I like them. If my friends don't have anything to say I normally look online for awards that the games have received and GW2 has quite a few of them. You can knock on the game all you want, but the facts are it is a great mmorpg. :)

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  • WarbandWarband ChesterPosts: 723Member
    Either GW2 or Minecraft outsold MoP on PC in 2012 since Blizzards reported stated Diablo came first in sales for 2012 and MoP came 3rd.. I'd just like to point that out.
  • Bad.dogBad.dog Belleville, ONPosts: 1,108Member
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Purutzil

    Oh joy. How I'm some random guy and I'm going to associate that the growth of PC software based off the fact Angry Birds is now on Chrome for free. Just saying.

     

    Yeah, the article itself is really quite silly. Diablo 3 we all know is a rather poor game for its genre. Minecraft can just as easily be sold on Mac and Guildwars 2, yeah, its not that stunning of a selling for call as a 'key contributor', I mean Mists of Pandoria outsold it a good deal I'm pretty sure and yet it wasn't mentioned.

     

    I'll go let that article writer on some site I've never heard of have fun with apparently his three favorite games and neglecting to really give any proof to something that is virtually impossible to prove. 

    MoP outsold GW2 by a good deal?  I've been looking for those figures.  Can you post a link?

    Did this never get an answer ?......I mean there must be some proof . Just saying

  • NaMeNaMeNaMeNaMe EnglandPosts: 88Member

    Well duh! It was one of the most hyped games in 2012. :)

    Though out of the 30 people i know that got it (including me) 24 out ouf 30 of those people regret there purchase, 12 out of those 24 refunded the game and all 30 out of those 30 including me quit the game before the end of 2012. 

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  • Bad.dogBad.dog Belleville, ONPosts: 1,108Member
    Originally posted by NaMeNaMe

    Well duh! It was one of the most hyped games in 2012. :)

    Though out of the 30 people i know that got it (including me) 24 out ouf 30 of those people regret there purchase, 12 out of those 24 refunded the game and all 30 out of those 30 including me quit the game before the end of 2012. 

    The more you post the better your story gets ,,,,in 2015 you'll be able to change these numbers  to 960 out of a 1000 and all quit within 2 hours

  • Sasori_japSasori_jap AthensPosts: 12Member

    Minecraft costs 19.95 $ and has been around for some time

    MoP costs 40.00$ (when it came out) and WoW already has a big subscriber base so the sales are dissapointing if you think about it

    Diablo 3 costs 59.99$ the same money as GW2.

    Now saying that Diablo 3 outsold GW2 it might be true but it doesnt prove anything. If you look at the top selling PC games of all time the only MMOs that can get on that list are WoW and Guild Wars 1 (yeah you heard that right...GW1 is one of the top selling PC games of all time...)

    Diablo 3 sold 12 million and its third on that list, thats kinda pathetic for such a bad game and you can see the power of fame and anticipation right there...

    So regarding revenue and contribution for PC software sales i think GW2 isnt that far away for the others...

     

  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member
    Originally posted by Bad.dog
    Originally posted by NaMeNaMe

    Well duh! It was one of the most hyped games in 2012. :)

    Though out of the 30 people i know that got it (including me) 24 out ouf 30 of those people regret there purchase, 12 out of those 24 refunded the game and all 30 out of those 30 including me quit the game before the end of 2012. 

    The more you post the better your story gets ,,,,in 2015 you'll be able to change these numbers  to 960 out of a 1000 and all quit within 2 hours

    Lmao.

    Today on CNN: Guild Wars 2 players quit in numbers larger than the game sold!  Full story at 11!

    Seriously though, of the 50 people I know and am friends with (inculding me), 46 of them still play and love GW2.  You can't even question my post because this is Internets, Land of Truth.

    EDIT: This just in!  GW2 STILL a success.  Some people STILL bitter about it.

    Counting quoted text, there are two lies about how bad the game's doing on just this page.  I suggest pointing your guns elsewhere, you're not making a dent here.

  • AmjocoAmjoco Layton, UTPosts: 4,774Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by NaMeNaMe

    Well duh! It was one of the most hyped games in 2012. :)

    Though out of the 30 people i know that got it (including me) 24 out ouf 30 of those people regret there purchase, 12 out of those 24 refunded the game and all 30 out of those 30 including me quit the game before the end of 2012. 

    It wasn't one of the most hyped games. It  may have been the most hyped on this site, but in general, it wasn't pushed on anywhere else in the media. No telivision ads, nothing on radio. Comparatively right now, Defiance has television ads, MoP had it's campaign as well. No, it was only hyped by a few sites on the internet, it's fans from GW1 followed and word of mouth made it what it is today, a very  fun mmorpg.

    As far as your "friends" and you go, if what you say is true, it doesn't matter, the game has literally thousands playing and enjoying it. The devs turn out new content to do, and it's all for $60. 

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