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  • birdycephonbirdycephon Salt Lake City, UTMember Posts: 1,314
    Originally posted by fiontar

    Originally posted by NC360
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by nerovipus32
    Violence is fine but boobies are the devil, so says the mmorpg.com community. get over it ffs.

     Breasts aren't evil. Extreme objectification of female attributes is.

    Sexuality doesn't equal objectification. Selling a game that focuses on sexuality, doesn't equal objectification. Meaning that there is nothing about it that means it's all a person is good for; in this case a video game character.

    Man I think there is too much demonization of the female form. It's got to end.

    I completely agree. It's really one of the remaining forms of acceptable repression of women in modern society. That some women take part in that repression doesn't make it not so. If we didn't have such unhealthy attitudes about sex and the human body in our society, it would be pretty difficult to actually objectify anyone based on sexuality. Patriarchy has always been the driving force behind repression of the normalcy of human sexuality and the human form. The idea that normalization of sexual expression is misogynistic is absurd and misguided.

    Agreed. Any kind of hiarchy results in objefication. You think the 1% give a damn about the rest of the 99%? Think again. You see this kind of thing everywhere, you just have to look. 

  • cheyanecheyane EarthMember Posts: 3,822 Rare

    I am 52 + now /cry housewife and I'm saying this to give you  a base for my opinion. I just feel that this games ad thing does not give advertisements on male body parts as much prominence okay that came out a  bit tongue in cheek what I am saying is that this games area is mainly a guy thing so ads cater to tits and boobs wait that is the same thing I mean ass and tits.

     

    Also I think ads on men showing hair on thier navel and below is not even so common but yet in europe where I live breast get flashed on T.V. I just feel its a little unfair but not because I want to drool over them just that I would like to see more naked men on T.V. no that is not what I meant I mean that society has evolved to an extent that equal exposure to men and women were acceptable.

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  • ThorbrandThorbrand West Palm Beach, FLMember Posts: 1,198
    MMORPGs are suppose to be adult games not games made to be played by 8 yo kids. One of the many things wrong with MMOs today. Not because of content because there should be a IQ level to just be able to play a real MMORPG like the good old days when we had MMORPGs to play. Making games like we run our schools doesn't separate the advanced gamers from those who wish they could game, and yes MMOs use to be that separation.
  • Squeak69Squeak69 Colorado Springs, COMember Posts: 957 Uncommon

    the answer is very obvious sindce they had those adds there in the first place and where up until people started useing add blockers on them, which meant MMORPG was loseing money. so they brought them down.

    and you all can say what you want im glad they are down cause i can browse through these foroums agian without my wife asking me why im looking at a henti sight, since she never dose more then glance at my com when im on it and when all ya do is glance those add more then made it look like a henti site.

    F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used toimage
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  • Squeak69Squeak69 Colorado Springs, COMember Posts: 957 Uncommon
    Originally posted by cheyane
    I am 52 + now /cry housewife and I'm saying this to give you  a base for my opinion. I just feel that this games ad thing does not give advertisements on male body parts as much prominence okay that came out a  bit tongue in cheek what I am saying is that this games area is mainly a guy thing so ads cater to tits and boobs wait that is the same thing I mean ass and tits.   Also I think ads on men showing hair on thier navel and below is not even so common but yet in europe where I live breast get flashed on T.V. I just feel its a little unfair but not because I want to drool over them just that I would like to see more naked men on T.V. no that is not what I meant I mean that society has evolved to an extent that equal exposure to men and women were acceptable.

    that is because it is not illegal to have bar chest on tv while it is illegal to show anything in lower regin, a basic guide line is if you could see pubic hair if it wasnt shaved then it is a no pass. at least over there, here in the states its a states by state basis but in most states even men can not shot thier chest bare in public.

    F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used toimage
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  • Agent_JosephAgent_Joseph Member Posts: 1,189 Uncommon
    no, it is not too adult but it is too childish for sure !

    only EVE is real MMO...but I am impressive with TSW

  • GregorMcgregorGregorMcgregor FalkirkMember Posts: 225 Uncommon
    The Ad had to be hidden cause 2,000 Teens started to go blind. ;)

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  • DihoruDihoru ConstantaMember Posts: 2,731
    Really now? What is it with most people these days and the "sexualization"  of women being equal to objectification? It's like us men railing against the chip'n'dale-type guys for being fap fantasies for some women. Get over yourselves, if you don't like the visuals in a game don't play it, crying about what you think is happening is like me reporting every 18+ year old chick I see on the street with enough clothing on to be legal but not enough to let anything to the imagination to the police for "objectifing" themselves.

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  • bliss14bliss14 eleva, WIMember Posts: 568 Uncommon

    The ads were eye-catching and that is all that needs to be said about them.  I bet it got some people to check out the game so the whole point of them was most likely met even if they might have been pulled prematurely.

     Right now there is a Sevencore ad up on my screen here on MMORPG.com with a blond on a motorcycle (?) arching her back with her ass up oin the air and some decent cleavage that is cut off right where it would get more interesting.  I find nothing wrong with it at all :)

  • cheyanecheyane EarthMember Posts: 3,822 Rare
    No they show women's backsides on T.V. ads here in Italy (but then we have a pedophile still trying to run for Prime Minister) so the below the waist thing is not followed if that is the reason. That is what I'm trying to say I wish we lived in an age where both sexes were equally exposed or unexposed. But I guess I am tilting at windmills because women and men react differently to visual nudity because of how we are brought up too. It's acceptable for men to stare at boobies but not for women to stare at crotches not that I want to just trying to talk about perception and acceptance.
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  • ThaneThane berlinMember Posts: 2,522 Uncommon
    Originally posted by eyelolled
    I see they've removed the advertising for this game.  Do you think that this game is just too adult for the average mmorpg.com viewer?   I would be inclined to think it simply because the squeaking wheel gets the grease, instead of being a general concensus. 

    frankly, i didnt see anything adult about this game ^^

     

    babies have boobs every day, doesnt make em adult :)

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  • Superman0XSuperman0X San Jose, CAMember Posts: 1,916 Uncommon
    Originally posted by eyelolled
    I see they've removed the advertising for this game.  Do you think that this game is just too adult for the average mmorpg.com viewer?   I would be inclined to think it simply because the squeaking wheel gets the grease, instead of being a general concensus. 

     

    If you look at the ads, you will see that they are still running, just not the larger, more expensive ads.

  • DAS1337DAS1337 Member Posts: 2,481 Uncommon

    I don't know where everyone else stands, but I thought it was ridiculous.  You can whine and point fingers about how I'm being sensitive and all that BS, but you'd be wrong.  I'm into weirder things than a lot of you and a bit of tits and ass do not shock me in the slightest.

     

    Rather, it's the OVER-emphasis on the female form and the advertizing going way overboard in an attempt to get sex starved men to click on their link.  It would be one thing if it were on TV, and it was a realm woman, selling a real product.  But even TV doesn't go to the lengths that this game goes to.  You'll occasionally see David Beckham half naked as well, which is gross, but I am a straight guy.  I can see it go both ways, which makes a little sense.  However, this game makes an obvious attempt to make it go as far as they can towards the female focus.  They literally wrap the male avatars up in metal, where you can't even see their eyes.  Yet, the females are in some cases, not wearing anything at all.  They have breast sliders in character creation and the models were clearly designed to show 'bounciness' as they move about.  

     

    My objection with the ads has nothing to do with the ads, I've seen them before.  It's what is present in the game.  It's absolutely stupid.  Where are the dick sliders?  I don't see sliders for girth and length.  I don't see them flopping around while the characters move.  They went as far as covering everything up to the point where there is no skin showing.  No, I don't want to see dicks, but the point is, I don't really want to see tits and ass either in a video game.  I can go watch porno or have sex with my girlfriend if I was interested in tits and ass.  

     

    I've said this before.  This is where I have a little more respect for Age of Conan and Mortal Online.  Those titles pushed the edge, and while I don't play them now, I can see that they didn't shamelessly attempt to target 12 year olds and 40 year old virgins.

  • OmiragOmirag Pittsburgh, INMember Posts: 272 Uncommon

    Tried the game, to generic for my taste.

    My girlfriend tried the game, loves the anime, cutesy girl model and how its all fake women in the game. Can't get her to realize it is a bad game and she keeps playing cause she likes the character models.

    To each his own.

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  • RefMinorRefMinor MyTownMember Posts: 3,452 Uncommon
    America, the worlds largest collection of Puritans with the worlds largest porn industry, Go Repression.
  • ThelricThelric Woodbury, NJMember Posts: 27 Uncommon
    Gave it a go like I do with all mmo's. I'll have to admit it's not for prudes but it's definitely not really an adult mmo unless you're shocked by seeing someone take off their shirt. It reminded me of RF Online in some way. Played it with a female friend and she enjoyed it. The game definitely has a lot more than just a T&A feature which is just there for giggles and which I found not even mentioned or talked about by the community while i played. You'd be surprised how friendly the community was and while it did not make me stay, I enjoyed the few days I spent giving it a go.
  • IcewhiteIcewhite Elmhurst, ILMember Posts: 6,403
    Originally posted by Miblet

    If you were developing a supersoldier to fend of an alien invasion, breasts would surely be right up there on important things.

    Unless you're an Amazon, that is. Then you mgiht be doing without one of them.

    The whole anti-boobies thing is all red herring.

    I think making fun of this game and its marketing is something I'll always enjoy doing.  Joyously reveling in its excess of fan-service extreme...creepy old guys and teens fapping their way to glory. More power to 'em, I hope their feelings don't get too hurt when I point and laugh.

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  • KenFisherKenFisher Northwest, INMember Posts: 5,035 Uncommon

    I figure it's worth a few hours to see what all the fuss is about.

     

    Downloading now.

     


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  • gessekai332gessekai332 New York City, NYMember Posts: 860 Uncommon

    the reason i dont play these kind of games is because the character models are way too hot and distracting that i cant focus on actually playing the game anymore.

     

    also this game has the best advertisements: "She has no safe word. Play Scarlet Blade." LMAO

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  • CaldrinCaldrin CwmbranMember Posts: 4,505 Uncommon

    I would not call it too adult i would call it creepy and possibly crossing the line quite a bit..

     

    Check this video out and skip towards the end

     

    skip towards then end they basically strip down a cartoon child to her underwear, im trying to find out where i can report such things in the UK as I think its promoting child exploitation.. hopefully will get it banned..

  • birdycephonbirdycephon Salt Lake City, UTMember Posts: 1,314
    Originally posted by Caldrin

    I would not call it too adult i would call it creepy and possibly crossing the line quite a bit.. Check this video out and skip towards the end  towards then end they basically strip down a cartoon child to her underwear, im trying to find out where i can report such things in the UK as I think its promoting child exploitation.. hopefully will get it banned..

    At what point was a child exploited, thats what I dont understand. 

  • CaldrinCaldrin CwmbranMember Posts: 4,505 Uncommon
    Originally posted by birdycephon
    Originally posted by Caldrin
    I would not call it too adult i would call it creepy and possibly crossing the line quite a bit..   Check this video out and skip towards the end   skip towards then end they basically strip down a cartoon child to her underwear, im trying to find out where i can report such things in the UK as I think its promoting child exploitation.. hopefully will get it banned..

    At what point was a child exploited, thats what I dont understand. 

    well having this kind of thing in game makes people think its ok and totally normal, i said promoting as well by the way not that it is chil exploitation..

     

    So you cant see an issue with a game allowing people to strip children down to their underwear ?

     

    its just prue wrong, i have no issues with the adult female characters and so on I am 100% fine with that.. but bringing children characters into the game and donig the same thing with them is 100% wrong and should be banned.

  • birdycephonbirdycephon Salt Lake City, UTMember Posts: 1,314
    Originally posted by Caldrin

    Originally posted by birdycephon
    Originally posted by Caldrin
    I would not call it too adult i would call it creepy and possibly crossing the line quite a bit..   Check this video out and skip towards the end   skip towards then end they basically strip down a cartoon child to her underwear, im trying to find out where i can report such things in the UK as I think its promoting child exploitation.. hopefully will get it banned..

    At what point was a child exploited, thats what I dont understand. 

    well having this kind of thing in game makes people think its ok and totally normal, i said promoting as well by the way not that it is chil exploitation..

     

    So you cant see an issue with a game allowing people to strip children down to their underwear ?

     

    its just prue wrong, i have no issues with the adult female characters and so on I am 100% fine with that.. but bringing children characters into the game and donig the same thing with them is 100% wrong and should be banned.

    Now youre playing Minority Report. 

  • BrenelaelBrenelael MaineMember Posts: 3,797 Uncommon

    Funny how people got all up in arms over the Scarlet Blade ads but nobody seems to notice the cleavage showing, ass up in the air motorcycle girl in the Sevencore spash ad. Sure she's got more clothes on but the sexual inuendo is every bit as strong. As for the ads they ended at the exact same time the game ended it's Closed Beta cycle and went down for like 12 hours. I think that had more to do with them disappearing than a few complaints on the forum.

     

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  • fiontarfiontar Dana, MAMember Posts: 3,681 Uncommon
    Originally posted by DAS1337
    I don't know where everyone else stands, but I thought it was ridiculous.  You can whine and point fingers about how I'm being sensitive and all that BS, but you'd be wrong.  I'm into weirder things than a lot of you and a bit of tits and ass do not shock me in the slightest.   Rather, it's the OVER-emphasis on the female form and the advertizing going way overboard in an attempt to get sex starved men to click on their link.  It would be one thing if it were on TV, and it was a realm woman, selling a real product.  But even TV doesn't go to the lengths that this game goes to.  You'll occasionally see David Beckham half naked as well, which is gross, but I am a straight guy.  I can see it go both ways, which makes a little sense.  However, this game makes an obvious attempt to make it go as far as they can towards the female focus.  They literally wrap the male avatars up in metal, where you can't even see their eyes.  Yet, the females are in some cases, not wearing anything at all.  They have breast sliders in character creation and the models were clearly designed to show 'bounciness' as they move about.     My objection with the ads has nothing to do with the ads, I've seen them before.  It's what is present in the game.  It's absolutely stupid.  Where are the dick sliders?  I don't see sliders for girth and length.  I don't see them flopping around while the characters move.  They went as far as covering everything up to the point where there is no skin showing.  No, I don't want to see dicks, but the point is, I don't really want to see tits and ass either in a video game.  I can go watch porno or have sex with my girlfriend if I was interested in tits and ass.     I've said this before.  This is where I have a little more respect for Age of Conan and Mortal Online.  Those titles pushed the edge, and while I don't play them now, I can see that they didn't shamelessly attempt to target 12 year olds and 40 year old virgins.

    You don't seem to know anything about the actual game. There are no male avatars in the game and there are no breast sliders. There are sometimes nude female avatars and they all have bodies with a high degree of curviness.

    Society tries really hard to make us all feel awkward and uncomfortable with nudity and sexuality, when they are really natural, positive aspects of being human. At the same time, violence is glorified to extreme levels, even though violence is at best a neccassary evil when it comes to self defence of person, family or nation and at worst an expression of pure evil made manifest.

    The game may be goofy and sophomoric, but IMO it's good to see the game break through the barrier that has thus far held that nudity and sensuality in games should remain taboo. Hopefully someday it will unexceptional in games and media. Our cultural attitudes towards sex, sensuality and nudity are not at all healthy and lead to a lot of problems that just wouldn't exist otherwise.

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