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Alpha tester here with about 280 hours played - preorderd a PC version for myself, and 2 Xbox versions for my nephews.
I find Defiance absolute fun, even after completing all the content in alpha.
Obviously everyone is different, some will love it some will hate it, to me its so worth $60, your milage may vary.
Originally posted by Dartmed Well this is my personal opinion for what is worth... Character creation very outdated (not much in there) Dynamic Events = Boring grind after some hours (Remember Rift ....?) Missions = Standard 3rd person linear. You can find better in single player games and because defiance fails to implement the need for grouping you might be better off. Challenges : If you are a leaderboard maniac then maybe for a while PVP : instanced pvp with generic goals (also broken during the last 2 betas) Overall the game is mediocre, its not all that bad but is not great either. I believe that the all platform gameplay also hurts what it could be …. I couldn’t get an MMO feeling but rather a single player game with lots of ppl running around co-oping . What I recommended to my blog audience was to consider it of it gets on sale on some time but not to go ahead and buy it . The post is not meant to be a flame and is my 2 cents . I believe that the beta can give a very good appraise of the game for anyone to decide if they want to buy it .
Yeah - I played a lot more today and not buying right away either. Feels more like a $29.99 or maybe $39.99 game but not $60... It was okay but not enough to keep ya comig back day after day..
Originally posted by DMKano Alpha tester here with about 280 hours played - preorderd a PC version for myself, and 2 Xbox versions for my nephews. I find Defiance absolute fun, even after completing all the content in alpha. Obviously everyone is different, some will love it some will hate it, to me its so worth $60, your milage may vary.
this pretty much sums it up.. for me i pre-ordered back when amazon first put it up because i think trion is a good developer and the videos I saw looked fun.. but alas couldn't make it through two beta weekends without pulling the plug.. everyones mileage will vary on any game..
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Originally posted by Siveria Yeah its kinda like firefall a very basic game, firefall has no real loot period your handed everything when you get enough exp to unlock that weapon or gear piece. Think I might stay away from defiance as well. I'd rather buy monster hunter 3 ultimate for my 3ds, cheaper, and i'll probally get more enjoyment out of it than some generic shooter wannabe-mmo.
Firefall is as similar to Defiance as GW2 is to WoW. With that said though I would recomend you skip the game. You have already played it and have stated that it puts you to sleep, that alone probably means you shouldn't buy it. I personally think its worth the buy, but it didn't put me to sleep so... lol.
When it comes to everyone looking thesame - You start out as one of 4 "clasess" and within the first 10 - 20 minutes of gameplay you get an opportunity to customize your look (first camp after tutorial). As you progress you pick up (and get an opportunity to buy) literally 100's of costiume options. So, shile it starts out just like evry other game in this respect you quickly get ccess to a variety that is far above and beyond what most mmorpgs offer.
This is a shooter mmo, everythign hinges on your skill as a player and not macroing or figuring out the "best build".
Rockets are lame and suck in PvP, even the basic machine guns are far better. There is nothign broken about it. People spam rockets 'couse they make big boom and that just makes them easy targets. It's pointless.
There is a deep story and loads of quests in Defiance. Just liek with any mmo it will seem lackluster if you ignore them.
There is more but i hate typing.
Personally I love this one and pre-ordered the ultimate edition. It has depth, action and great graphics, in addition to that you get a TV show and it;s even Trion making it. Imho you can't go wrong with a Trion game.
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Originally posted by Aerowyn aside from the VO and opening sequence firefall feels like a higher budget game to me(and i don't even care for firefall that much) which i highly doubt it is in anyway.. very sad about this cancelled my pre-order with amazon.. going to continue to play more this weekend to try out some further along content but overall nothing really peaked my interest while playing. Very few big budget games do i get bored with in the first day.. hell even swtor got a few weeks out of me..
Yeah I can't agree with that. As far as production quality, Defiance has Firefall beat. I've played both. While the combat may be a bit more fun and the controlds are a bit better, Firefall fails at performance. I can run Defiance at maximum settings with no hiccups at all. With Firefall, I'm freezing all over, it's so choppy at even medium settings that It's hard to even want to log in anymore.
Trion will fix some of the glaring issues and I suspect that Defiance will end up being a solid B2P shooter in the long run.
Originally posted by Stofftier Doesnt appeal to me .... i think even tabula rasa had much more atmosphere you were droped in the game and you allways had that war feelin at every corner .
Tabula Rasa was horrible. That's my opinion obviously. It's hard to recognize the atmosphere when there's horrid rubberbanding, lag spikes, glitches, freezing, crashing and just about everything else that you can think of.
When people say this game is designed for the console they forget its designed to use a gamepad more than the kb/mouse so theres no need for the wow type ui,all skills can be accessed by the gamepad easily.
If you don't like a pc game that utilizes a gamepad more than a kb then don't play it.
Originally posted by johnisme If you don't like a pc game that utilizes a gamepad more than a kb then don't play it.
Hmm, well I don't. It's annoying as hell, so I guess that makes my decision easier.
Originally posted by johnisme When people say this game is designed for the console they forget its designed to use a gamepad more than the kb/mouse so theres no need for the wow type ui,all skills can be accessed by the gamepad easily. If you don't like a pc game that utilizes a gamepad more than a kb then don't play it.
Considering the mouse and keyboard are the most common PC controllers people use, especially MMO gamers it's a little silly to think pc gamers should go out and buy an extra piece of hardware to play a game released on PC. It's also not too much to ask for a PC friendly UI for the pc version of the game. Console games aren't designed around a mouse and keyboard even though those peripherals are available for most modern consoles.
I'm a big fan of Trion.
Still...can honestly say I have no desire to play this game. Nothing I have seen so far has piqued my interest at all for it. Kind of surprised because initially when they announced it I was curious but their marketing campaign has turned me off to the game. Not real impressed with what I have seen with the game or the show.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
I like the game and will be buying it, but I'm applying the same standard to the game I would apply to a solo RPG/Action/Shooter, rather than what I would expect from an actual MMORPG. In short, not including DLC, I don't see this as a game I'm likely to get much more than 100 hours from, nor is it a game I'm likely to ever want to replay with an alt. 100+ hours is great from a solo game, but not the type of longevity you expect from one's primary MMORPG. If I get 100+ hours for the $60 purchase, I'll be happy.
It is B2P, so that really works for me in combination with my expectations for the game.
The DLC and the TV series tie in will be crucial for me in determining if I play it and shelve it, or keep it around to play in conjunction with what will hopefully be an enjoyable TV viewing experience.
To be honest, if it wasn't for the show I would probably take a pass, so hopefully the series will be good enough to justify plunking down $60 for the game!
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Originally posted by wilq Considering how "good" :P syfy tv series are i do not hawe high hopes for it. As for the game one thing that hold me back is whole dlc stuff, it can be both good deal and scam, second thing is how "buy to win" cash shop will be, if there will be mostly outfits boost for xp thats fine for me but if they offer things that change your char in some sort of "one ugly mofo i one shot you all" ill pass. So most likly ill w8 few weeks for some ingame opinions.
Trion came out and said they will not offer up anything on the shop that will give someone an advantage over others.
The game will be a nice treat for fans of the show I guess, as a standalone MMO it doesn't cut it though. Apart from the couple of episode ( aka main story ) missions the gameplay is rather bland and neither the races nor the highscore bits help much in that respect. The UI is not acceptable on the PC.
A couple years ago what the game has to offer might have been enough, these days the market is flooded though and there are plenty of all around better options. The way Trion turned around Rift it's probably worth keeping an eye on Defiance and maybe buy it once they arrived at a more reasonable pricing model. But for now stay the hell away.
They have some good shows and a few enjoyable shows of less than stellar quality, so there is some hope. BSG was superb and some of the producers from BSG are behind this series. The US version of Being Human is also very good. They do make the worst sci-fi/fantasy B-movies on TV though and they are also flooding the network with reality crap, so the network itself deserves some criticism, but they have put out a few quality drama series over the years.
We'll have to wait and see.
Originally posted by Siveria I am kindaon the fence about buying this, the game seems fairly basic and doesn't seem to offer much at all. Am I missing something here? Only 4 active abilities is kinda lame, and did they ever fix the pvp where all everyone does is boringly spam rocket launchers? or is it still as broken as it was in a previous beta? I dunno, I played a bit of the last beta and found the game a tad boring just like I did firefall since all you seem to do is brainlessly run around shooting things. Also did they improve char creation? because in the last beta I was in having everyone be a carbon copy of each other looks wise just made me feel like the game was from the snes/ps1 era in terms of char creation. Or lack there of since there was online like 3 models or something. Kind of a cheesy cop-out for mass pvp imo.
You'll love the game. They have so much planned for it you won't be put down my friend.