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  • taus01taus01 MunichPosts: 1,352Member
    Originally posted by arieste

    /facepalm.

     

    OP, you do realize this isn't even a MMORPG, right?  It's a persistent shooter.

     

    That being said.. sure it's sandbox... i guess.  I mean, you don't have to log in and follow a set quest path to progress afaik.  You log in and go do whatever you want wherever you want.  Just, mainly "the whatever" is limited to shooting stuff.

    There is no persistance in this shooter other than the persistance of the mobs to spawn from random doors/trucks over and over and over... and over. It's almost funny and i can't wait for the first benny hill remixes of those videos i seen online.

    It looks really boring if you ask me.

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  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member
    Originally posted by tkreep
    I been playing the PS3 beta which started on the 19th and I have never had so much fun and addicted to an mmo like this before. Its almost exactly like a Borderlands mmo because the missions are a lot like borderlands and the weapons are kind of random like borderlands, there are even timed special sales in vendors for weapons just like in borderlands.  There are no mission where you have to kill x number of whatever.  There are missions like where you have to install bombs or diffuse them.  Protect NPCs from waves of mobs while the npc hacks computers n such. The combat is so damn fun.  I guess I realy like it because its fun like borderlands so if you like borderlands you will love this.

    Hmmmm... I loved Borderlands (still waiting for BL2 to drop in price).  Maybe you sold me on Defiance... however, I'm not paying 60 bucks for something I will probably only play a few months.

  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Alexandria, VAPosts: 4,555Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by taus01
    Originally posted by arieste

    /facepalm.

     

    OP, you do realize this isn't even a MMORPG, right?  It's a persistent shooter.

     

    That being said.. sure it's sandbox... i guess.  I mean, you don't have to log in and follow a set quest path to progress afaik.  You log in and go do whatever you want wherever you want.  Just, mainly "the whatever" is limited to shooting stuff.

    There is no persistance in this shooter other than the persistance of the mobs to spawn from random doors/trucks over and over and over... and over. It's almost funny and i can't wait for the first benny hill remixes of those videos i seen online.

    It looks really boring if you ask me.

    isnt that how it is in all mmos and video games?

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Stone Mountain, GAPosts: 13,668Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by coretex666
    Originally posted by Loktofeit
    Originally posted by Doogiehowser
    Jesus..what is with people complaining about every new MMO for not being sandbox? did Trion ever said anything about Defiance having sandbox elements? or it is just a new cool thing to do now? to complain about every new MMO for not being sandboxy enough even though devs never claimed it to be in first place?

    These forums used to be a decent mix of mmo gamers but they've tipped really really heavily toward the MMO hipster the past two years.

     

    "Not a sandbox? Fail."

    Which is why GW 2 is the highest rated and most popular game on this forum apparently.

    On this site, not on these forums. If this site is like other fansites, there's some overlap between the news readers and forum goers, but it's not all that much.

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  • austriacusaustriacus limaPosts: 624Member
    Originally posted by tkreep
    Originally posted by taus01
    Originally posted by arieste

    /facepalm.

     

    OP, you do realize this isn't even a MMORPG, right?  It's a persistent shooter.

     

    That being said.. sure it's sandbox... i guess.  I mean, you don't have to log in and follow a set quest path to progress afaik.  You log in and go do whatever you want wherever you want.  Just, mainly "the whatever" is limited to shooting stuff.

    There is no persistance in this shooter other than the persistance of the mobs to spawn from random doors/trucks over and over and over... and over. It's almost funny and i can't wait for the first benny hill remixes of those videos i seen online.

    It looks really boring if you ask me.

    isnt that how it is in all mmos and video games?

    Hi, are you using an account that isnt yours? because you seem to be new to the mmo genre and not since 2006. I can name one flop and one bad game that have persistance apart from mobs, Ryzom and Salem. And lets not get into Eve here.

    This game is a coop BL, thats it. And i think thats cool.

  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Alexandria, VAPosts: 4,555Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by austriacus
    Originally posted by tkreep
    Originally posted by taus01
    Originally posted by arieste

    /facepalm.

     

    OP, you do realize this isn't even a MMORPG, right?  It's a persistent shooter.

     

    That being said.. sure it's sandbox... i guess.  I mean, you don't have to log in and follow a set quest path to progress afaik.  You log in and go do whatever you want wherever you want.  Just, mainly "the whatever" is limited to shooting stuff.

    There is no persistance in this shooter other than the persistance of the mobs to spawn from random doors/trucks over and over and over... and over. It's almost funny and i can't wait for the first benny hill remixes of those videos i seen online.

    It looks really boring if you ask me.

    isnt that how it is in all mmos and video games?

    Hi, are you using an account that isnt yours? because you seem to be new to the mmo genre and not since 2006. I can name one flop and one bad game that have persistance apart from mobs, Ryzom and Salem. And lets not get into Eve here.

    This game is a coop BL, thats it. And i think thats cool.

    Been playin mmos since Ultima Online and most of the mmos I have played since then have mobs that respawn in same locations such as the most popular one called WoW. ryzom doesnt even exist anymore and what the hell is a salem.  Eve is too dofferent to compare.

  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid hell, NJPosts: 6,778Member Uncommon

    Its the sibling of Firefall. Not twins, just two sisters. You can notice their familiar traits, but each has their own personality.

    If you love one, you will most likely love the other ;)

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  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Alexandria, VAPosts: 4,555Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by austriacus
    Originally posted by tkreep
    Originally posted by taus01
    Originally posted by arieste

    /facepalm.

     

    OP, you do realize this isn't even a MMORPG, right?  It's a persistent shooter.

     

    That being said.. sure it's sandbox... i guess.  I mean, you don't have to log in and follow a set quest path to progress afaik.  You log in and go do whatever you want wherever you want.  Just, mainly "the whatever" is limited to shooting stuff.

    There is no persistance in this shooter other than the persistance of the mobs to spawn from random doors/trucks over and over and over... and over. It's almost funny and i can't wait for the first benny hill remixes of those videos i seen online.

    It looks really boring if you ask me.

    isnt that how it is in all mmos and video games?

    Hi, are you using an account that isnt yours? because you seem to be new to the mmo genre and not since 2006. I can name one flop and one bad game that have persistance apart from mobs, Ryzom and Salem. And lets not get into Eve here.

    This game is a coop BL, thats it. And i think thats cool.

    Ok I just checked out Salems page and LOL!!! Seriously...? HAHAHAHAH

  • austriacusaustriacus limaPosts: 624Member
    Originally posted by tkreep
    Originally posted by austriacus
    Originally posted by tkreep
    Originally posted by taus01
    Originally posted by arieste

    /facepalm.

     

    OP, you do realize this isn't even a MMORPG, right?  It's a persistent shooter.

     

    That being said.. sure it's sandbox... i guess.  I mean, you don't have to log in and follow a set quest path to progress afaik.  You log in and go do whatever you want wherever you want.  Just, mainly "the whatever" is limited to shooting stuff.

    There is no persistance in this shooter other than the persistance of the mobs to spawn from random doors/trucks over and over and over... and over. It's almost funny and i can't wait for the first benny hill remixes of those videos i seen online.

    It looks really boring if you ask me.

    isnt that how it is in all mmos and video games?

    Hi, are you using an account that isnt yours? because you seem to be new to the mmo genre and not since 2006. I can name one flop and one bad game that have persistance apart from mobs, Ryzom and Salem. And lets not get into Eve here.

    This game is a coop BL, thats it. And i think thats cool.

    Ok I just checked out Salems page and LOL!!! Seriously...? HAHAHAHAH

    Thats why i said it was bad, read my post. I just said that it tracks persistance on other stuff apart from mobs which you said was the only thing games did nowdays. If a game as bad as that one can do it....well then what does it say about the good games?

  • donjuanagaindonjuanagain New Orleans, LAPosts: 132Member
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    Originally posted by D3Perfecto93
    Originally posted by Jeroam
    am i missing something, or is that mostly it? i cant be bothered being interested, if theres no sandbox elements, and just boring fetch quests.  mybe the occasional pvp, but doesnt actually have any real meaninful rewards for it.

    If you're abit fuzzy about questing then why bother signing up for the beta?

    So he can decide whether he wants to play the finished game and if his concerns are valid?  Gee!  You'd think people sign up for betas because of the free launch loot.

    I thought everyone signed up for betas for the free launch loot. Am I wrong?

  • Deerhunter71Deerhunter71 Richmond, VAPosts: 527Member
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    Originally posted by tkreep
    I been playing the PS3 beta which started on the 19th and I have never had so much fun and addicted to an mmo like this before. Its almost exactly like a Borderlands mmo because the missions are a lot like borderlands and the weapons are kind of random like borderlands, there are even timed special sales in vendors for weapons just like in borderlands.  There are no mission where you have to kill x number of whatever.  There are missions like where you have to install bombs or diffuse them.  Protect NPCs from waves of mobs while the npc hacks computers n such. The combat is so damn fun.  I guess I realy like it because its fun like borderlands so if you like borderlands you will love this.

    Hmmmm... I loved Borderlands (still waiting for BL2 to drop in price).  Maybe you sold me on Defiance... however, I'm not paying 60 bucks for something I will probably only play a few months.

    $60 for a few months seems like a deal to me....  Lot of people blow that one night at the bar or just one dinner...  Whereas this can get you a good few months of every night enjoyment.

  • narialnarial San Jose, CAPosts: 13Member

    this always cracks me up

     

    people who complain that a new mmorpg is not a sandbox don't actually pay sandbox mmorpgs. if they did eve would have a LOT more subs.

  • KatlaOdindottirKatlaOdindottir essexPosts: 144Member
    The fact you can drive through everyone and their nan is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen in games, was really excited until I saw that.

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  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Alexandria, VAPosts: 4,555Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by KatlaOdindottir
    The fact you can drive through everyone and their nan is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen in games, was really excited until I saw that.

    You cant hit players but you can damage mobs by ramming them and different cars do different damage like the hummer does a lot more than the buggy but is not as fast

  • monstermmomonstermmo Glendale, CAPosts: 1,062Member

    I've played a few hours only so far. As a first impression it makes me call it Global Agenda 2. =p

    NDA has been lifted.

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  • VolgoreVolgore Posts: 2,209Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by monstermmo

    I've played a few hours only so far. As a first impression it makes me call it Global Agenda 2. =p

    NDA has been lifted.

    NDA lifts 22nd, 8AM PST

     

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  • CryptorCryptor Coquitlam, BCPosts: 480Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Jeroam
    am i missing something, or is that mostly it? i cant be bothered being interested, if theres no sandbox elements, and just boring fetch quests.  mybe the occasional pvp, but doesnt actually have any real meaninful rewards for it.

     

    You could not be further from the truth.

  • NightgroperNightgroper Aunt Em''s, NEPosts: 76Member
    welcome to MMOs my friend. Everything can be boiled down to a fetch quest in one way or another in an MMO.

    The more I'm around the forums on this site, the more bitter I become.

  • Crazy_StickCrazy_Stick Privacy Preferred, NCPosts: 1,059Member
    Originally posted by Volgore
    Originally posted by monstermmo

    I've played a few hours only so far. As a first impression it makes me call it Global Agenda 2. =p

    NDA has been lifted.

    NDA lifts 22nd, 8AM PST

     

    Technically true but the email notice itself regarding the lifting of the NDA encourages people to start talking about the game any and everywhere right now...  LOL. He won't get shot for that.

  • DAS1337DAS1337 Parma, OHPosts: 2,404Member

    As far as I know, Trion never mentioned anything about their game being a sandbox..

     

    Unless I am missing something...

  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Alexandria, VAPosts: 4,555Member Uncommon

    It may not be a sandbox by most peoples standards but it is an open-world.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_world

  • LobotomistLobotomist ZagrebPosts: 5,054Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Loktofeit
    Originally posted by Doogiehowser
    Jesus..what is with people complaining about every new MMO for not being sandbox? did Trion ever said anything about Defiance having sandbox elements? or it is just a new cool thing to do now? to complain about every new MMO for not being sandboxy enough even though devs never claimed it to be in first place?

    These forums used to be a decent mix of mmo gamers but they've tipped really really heavily toward the MMO hipster the past two years.

     

    "Not a sandbox? Fail."

     

     

    And yet than you point them to a real sandbox - like Age of Wushu or Parallel Kingdom. And they say "Ah..gameplay sucks, and graphic is bad"

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  • ariestearieste toronto, ONPosts: 3,308Member Common
    Originally posted by narial

    people who complain that a new mmorpg is not a sandbox don't actually pay sandbox mmorpgs. if they did eve would have a LOT more subs.

    I've subbed to EVE on like 5 separate occassions over the years.  I really love the idea of it, but I just find the PvE to be extremely underwhelming.  It's an amazing sandbox if you PvP.  It's mediocre at best if you just PvE.

     

    Hasn't been a good PvE sandbox since SWG.

     

    I still don't get the whole sandbox vs. themepark argument when it comes to Defiance though.. it's a shooter game.. do people not know what one is like?  Try Planetside or Global Agenda or Borderlands.. it's really not rocket science.

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  • RedMachine72RedMachine72 Turney, MOPosts: 86Member
    Originally posted by Jeroam
    am i missing something, or is that mostly it? i cant be bothered being interested, if theres no sandbox elements, and just boring fetch quests.  mybe the occasional pvp, but doesnt actually have any real meaninful rewards for it.

     To be quite frank, just play the beta and learn for yourself. I am having a blast (pun intended) going around and finding random quests and the Ark Fall events are bitchin. Was in one last night that had at least 75 or more in it and no hickups, no lag, no nothing, just pure run and gun. It does have a small learning curve cause it is not a typical MMO. But once your past that, it can get crazy at times.

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