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  • AmjocoAmjoco Layton, UTPosts: 4,779Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ichihaifu

    Too much money spent at something one doesnt have knowledge of. ~shudder~

    As people said before get rid of the 7800, update drivers (to beta if need be) and utilize all of the bloody outputs in the 690. Yes you can do that, its just a matter of doing it correctly. Google is your friend if you find your thumb from your mouth. If its a real problem with the card you can most likely find solutions on the first page in search results - if the problem is how you do/did things, you cannot find the solution from google (in which case you need to go back and learn the basics all over again).

    Not necessary. I can buy a new BMW and not know crap about the engine.

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  • WootloopsWootloops Melville, NYPosts: 165Member
    Originally posted by ichihaifu

    Too much money spent at something one doesnt have knowledge of. ~shudder~

    As people said before get rid of the 7800, update drivers (to beta if need be) and utilize all of the bloody outputs in the 690. Yes you can do that, its just a matter of doing it correctly. Google is your friend if you find your thumb from your mouth. If its a real problem with the card you can most likely find solutions on the first page of search results - if the problem is how you do/did things, you cannot find the solution from google (in which case you need to go back and learn the basics all over again).

    You can utilize all the outputs while in "Maximize 3D performance" mode?

  • drbaltazardrbaltazar drummondville, QCPosts: 7,987Member

    it isnt your computer per say!as usual it is window .ms tend to do thing their way as a result it is rarelly benefical for normal human like us!because ms has to compromise with lot of side .first make sure your temperature is ok!if this isnt an issue then i would change of srgb version.if you dont know how ?never mind this idea!you might want to try loweting you hertz from 60 to 59 (aka 59.94)both in the game and the graphic card(or os)in amd gpu it still say  60 dont sweat it in the the os it is still it 59.94)restart and this might have made the game smoother.i would check your gpu website a lot of info from nvidia usually and lot of game arent friendly with crossfire or sli(might neede to disable sli for this title!

     

    check me gw2 mainly use one core cpu ,but if i try ff 14 it uses all core equally (cpu)even thos arenanet say they use all core equally in fact they dont  (i tested)so by using mostly one core and not being balanced it will cause issue also.but i suspect your issue in particular is sli!disable sli on your 690 set gpu to 59.94 and it should smooth everything out!sli and crossfire are very hard to make work smoothly!this is why most pro use the highest single gpu card they can find (no sli no crossfire)

  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard La BarrePosts: 3,549Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by drbaltazar

    check me gw2 mainly use one core cpu...

    Wrong. GW2 uses multiple cores, and quite efficiently.

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  • jdnewelljdnewell Spring Hill, TNPosts: 2,150Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by RelGn
    get rid of the 7800 crap and update your drivers

    This

    You need the updated drivers for a card like the 690. Having a 7800 in your system along with a 690, and having to run old drivers is a bad idea. You might be better off just not watching tv on an old 7800 in the same system as your 690.

    Not sure what thought process figured this would be a good idea.

  • drbaltazardrbaltazar drummondville, QCPosts: 7,987Member

    me it uses 3 core effectivly (a la ff14)but one core it use massivly (7/8 of 100% proccssing power)also it is never the same core,i play this session it might be core 1 ,in haf an hour i go play another new session it will be core 2 then afterward core 3 etc!

     

  • jdnewelljdnewell Spring Hill, TNPosts: 2,150Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by drbaltazar

    me it uses 3 core effectivly (a la ff14)but one core it use massivly (7/8 of 100% proccssing power)also it is never the same core,i play this session it might be core 1 ,in haf an hour i go play another new session it will be core 2 then afterward core 3 etc!

     

    Huh?!?

    Punctuation, complete sentence and structure are your friends. Even if english is not your 1st language. I am not a spelling nazi, but whatever point you try to make in your posts are lost in that rambling mess of a post.

  • Loke666Loke666 MalmöPosts: 18,000Member Uncommon

    A large part is probably the drivers, you really need the latest to run the game well. My 480 runs the game superbly.

    Another possibility that might slow you down is that you have an IRQ issue (2 graphics card using the same IRQ can sometimes mess things up). I recommend that you check out the administrative logs that logs any issues and errors. If you do have some often occuring issue there, PM the information to me and Ill help you out with it. :)

    But really, loose the old card, if you just need it for another monitor get the cheapest new card you can find for that instead.

  • eliteroelitero fremont, CAPosts: 263Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Wootloops

    I have a six core i7-3930k, a GTX 690, 16 GB of RAM, and an SSD, and for some reason the game is just choppy and slow, most noticeably if I spin around really fast, causing everything to lock up for like half a second.

    I turned off dual GPU mode for the 690, turned off windowed mode for the game, and tried messing with the graphics settings but nothing really helped.

    Maybe it's my Nvidia drivers, as I'm stuck on 307.74 because I use a second 7800 GTX card for extra monitors, and that's the last driver to support that card, but these drivers came out well after Guild Wars 2 was released.

    With all graphics settings maxed (No vertical sync), running in a straight line in the Azura starting area I get like 45-60 FPS depending on the area, and as soon as I start even slightly turning, it drops to 25-45 FPS.

    I feel like I should be getting better results with my specs.

    Its like this, if you do not take out the 7800 you will get slow performance, you are using something VERY old vs somethign VERY new and not only that you are using drivers that only support the 7800 not the 690, as soon as you take that 7800 and install the new drivers then you should be running above 100 fps.

     

    Here is another thing, when you have 2 things lets say you have 2 harddrive and you raid them if one is slower than the other it will only use the speeds of the old one, even with SLI even though you do not have the two cards SLI, but your over all performance is going to be according to the 7800 not the 690. Also you have 2 cards plugged in this means that you are running 8x PCI not 16 for the  690 . In anycase you are not using the 690 currently your PC is using the 7800 speeds to proccess everything. 

  • WootloopsWootloops Melville, NYPosts: 165Member
    Originally posted by elitero
    Originally posted by Wootloops

    I have a six core i7-3930k, a GTX 690, 16 GB of RAM, and an SSD, and for some reason the game is just choppy and slow, most noticeably if I spin around really fast, causing everything to lock up for like half a second.

    I turned off dual GPU mode for the 690, turned off windowed mode for the game, and tried messing with the graphics settings but nothing really helped.

    Maybe it's my Nvidia drivers, as I'm stuck on 307.74 because I use a second 7800 GTX card for extra monitors, and that's the last driver to support that card, but these drivers came out well after Guild Wars 2 was released.

    With all graphics settings maxed (No vertical sync), running in a straight line in the Azura starting area I get like 45-60 FPS depending on the area, and as soon as I start even slightly turning, it drops to 25-45 FPS.

    I feel like I should be getting better results with my specs.

    Its like this, if you do not take out the 7800 you will get slow performance, you are using something VERY old vs somethign VERY new and not only that you are using drivers that only support the 7800 not the 690, as soon as you take that 7800 and install the new drivers then you should be running above 100 fps.

     

    Here is another thing, when you have 2 things lets say you have 2 harddrive and you raid them if one is slower than the other it will only use the speeds of the old one, even with SLI even though you do not have the two cards SLI, but your over all performance is going to be according to the 7800 not the 690. Also you have 2 cards plugged in this means that you are running 8x PCI not 16 for the  690 . In anycase you are not using the 690 currently your PC is using the 7800 speeds to proccess everything. 

    The drivers I'm using support both cards, and the 690 is the one rendering stuff, as evidenced in my high framerates in every other game, and by GPU-Z showing the load to be on the 690.

  • eliteroelitero fremont, CAPosts: 263Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Wootloops
    Originally posted by elitero
    Originally posted by Wootloops

    I have a six core i7-3930k, a GTX 690, 16 GB of RAM, and an SSD, and for some reason the game is just choppy and slow, most noticeably if I spin around really fast, causing everything to lock up for like half a second.

    I turned off dual GPU mode for the 690, turned off windowed mode for the game, and tried messing with the graphics settings but nothing really helped.

    Maybe it's my Nvidia drivers, as I'm stuck on 307.74 because I use a second 7800 GTX card for extra monitors, and that's the last driver to support that card, but these drivers came out well after Guild Wars 2 was released.

    With all graphics settings maxed (No vertical sync), running in a straight line in the Azura starting area I get like 45-60 FPS depending on the area, and as soon as I start even slightly turning, it drops to 25-45 FPS.

    I feel like I should be getting better results with my specs.

    Its like this, if you do not take out the 7800 you will get slow performance, you are using something VERY old vs somethign VERY new and not only that you are using drivers that only support the 7800 not the 690, as soon as you take that 7800 and install the new drivers then you should be running above 100 fps.

     

    Here is another thing, when you have 2 things lets say you have 2 harddrive and you raid them if one is slower than the other it will only use the speeds of the old one, even with SLI even though you do not have the two cards SLI, but your over all performance is going to be according to the 7800 not the 690. Also you have 2 cards plugged in this means that you are running 8x PCI not 16 for the  690 . In anycase you are not using the 690 currently your PC is using the 7800 speeds to proccess everything. 

    The drivers I'm using support both cards, and the 690 is the one rendering stuff, as evidenced in my high framerates in every other game, and by GPU-Z showing the load to be on the 690.

    If you read the last line you wouldn't have posted and just did what I said, I will repeat, your 690 is performing at the rate of your 7800, just take out the 7800 install the new 314 drivers and see the performance.

  • WootloopsWootloops Melville, NYPosts: 165Member
    Originally posted by elitero
    Originally posted by Wootloops
    Originally posted by elitero
    Originally posted by Wootloops

    I have a six core i7-3930k, a GTX 690, 16 GB of RAM, and an SSD, and for some reason the game is just choppy and slow, most noticeably if I spin around really fast, causing everything to lock up for like half a second.

    I turned off dual GPU mode for the 690, turned off windowed mode for the game, and tried messing with the graphics settings but nothing really helped.

    Maybe it's my Nvidia drivers, as I'm stuck on 307.74 because I use a second 7800 GTX card for extra monitors, and that's the last driver to support that card, but these drivers came out well after Guild Wars 2 was released.

    With all graphics settings maxed (No vertical sync), running in a straight line in the Azura starting area I get like 45-60 FPS depending on the area, and as soon as I start even slightly turning, it drops to 25-45 FPS.

    I feel like I should be getting better results with my specs.

    Its like this, if you do not take out the 7800 you will get slow performance, you are using something VERY old vs somethign VERY new and not only that you are using drivers that only support the 7800 not the 690, as soon as you take that 7800 and install the new drivers then you should be running above 100 fps.

     

    Here is another thing, when you have 2 things lets say you have 2 harddrive and you raid them if one is slower than the other it will only use the speeds of the old one, even with SLI even though you do not have the two cards SLI, but your over all performance is going to be according to the 7800 not the 690. Also you have 2 cards plugged in this means that you are running 8x PCI not 16 for the  690 . In anycase you are not using the 690 currently your PC is using the 7800 speeds to proccess everything. 

    The drivers I'm using support both cards, and the 690 is the one rendering stuff, as evidenced in my high framerates in every other game, and by GPU-Z showing the load to be on the 690.

    If you read the last line you wouldn't have posted and just did what I said, I will repeat, your 690 is performing at the rate of your 7800, just take out the 7800 install the new 314 drivers and see the performance.

    Except it's not, because the 7800 can't play Crysis 2 like butter.

  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter BristolPosts: 2,818Member Uncommon
    So have you tried to remove the 7800GTX yet?

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  • itgrowlsitgrowls newport news, VAPosts: 2,951Member
    Originally posted by Wootloops
    Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
    Doesn't the 690 have multiple video outputs? I don't think you need a second card for a second monitor.

    It has 4 outputs, but with dual GPU enabled, you can only use 3, and I have 4 monitors. And I want to get even more monitors, too.

    This game was CPU heavy not GPU heavy at first they told us it was due to testing but they never fixed it. Add it to the long list of things they told us would happen but never did.

  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter BristolPosts: 2,818Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by itgrowls
    Originally posted by Wootloops
    Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
    Doesn't the 690 have multiple video outputs? I don't think you need a second card for a second monitor.

    It has 4 outputs, but with dual GPU enabled, you can only use 3, and I have 4 monitors. And I want to get even more monitors, too.

    This game was CPU heavy not GPU heavy at first they told us it was due to testing but they never fixed it. Add it to the long list of things they told us would happen but never did.

    My performance between beta and release increased considerably.

    By the way are you still playing the game and hence a hostage? :)

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  • WootloopsWootloops Melville, NYPosts: 165Member
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
    So have you tried to remove the 7800GTX yet?

    I have, and it's been a catastrophe. I took it out and put my 8800 GTX in its place, as that's still supported by the latest drivers.

    It took like an hour to even get the card in the slot, and then Windows wouldn't boot, so I spent another hour trial and erroring to no avail, and ended up having to go to Best Buy to buy another copy of Windows 8 because I have no CD since I got it as a digital download. Except now it says that my new copy of Windows won't activate because the CD was for upgrades only and I had to do a clean install. Oh and then I accidentally converted my 4TB drive to a dynamic drive and lost everything on it, and now it's stuck at half capacity for some reason even though I converted it back to a basic drive.

    But hey at least I'm on the latest drivers. I'll test GW2 when I reinstall it after I spend 5 hours trying to get the other half of my hard drive capacity back and recovering anything from it I can.

  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by Wootloops
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
    So have you tried to remove the 7800GTX yet?

    I have, and it's been a catastrophe. I took it out and put my 8800 GTX in its place, as that's still supported by the latest drivers.

    It took like an hour to even get the card in the slot, and then Windows wouldn't boot, so I spent another hour trial and erroring to no avail, and ended up having to go to Best Buy to buy another copy of Windows 8 because I have no CD since I got it as a digital download. Except now it says that my new copy of Windows won't activate because the CD was for upgrades only and I had to do a clean install. Oh and then I accidentally converted my 4TB drive to a dynamic drive and lost everything on it, and now it's stuck at half capacity for some reason even though I converted it back to a basic drive.

    But hey at least I'm on the latest drivers. I'll test GW2 when I reinstall it after I spend 5 hours trying to get the other half of my hard drive capacity back and recovering anything from it I can.

    why did you put a 8800 in there? why not just leave in the 690 alone and try it like that? dual GPU cards have always been more hassle than they are worth imho then you add a third gpu you are just asking for issues..... for comparison i have a similar setup to you but use a 670 card and hit 100 fps+ in most areas with only a couple things turned down

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  • drbaltazardrbaltazar drummondville, QCPosts: 7,987Member
    to install w8 you need to follow microsoft instruction or it wont work!(espacially if you have installed it before !)it doesnt work like w7 and you wont be able to use w7 if you dont follow microsoft instruction either!
  • jdnewelljdnewell Spring Hill, TNPosts: 2,150Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Wootloops
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
    So have you tried to remove the 7800GTX yet?

    I have, and it's been a catastrophe. I took it out and put my 8800 GTX in its place, as that's still supported by the latest drivers.

    It took like an hour to even get the card in the slot, and then Windows wouldn't boot, so I spent another hour trial and erroring to no avail, and ended up having to go to Best Buy to buy another copy of Windows 8 because I have no CD since I got it as a digital download. Except now it says that my new copy of Windows won't activate because the CD was for upgrades only and I had to do a clean install. Oh and then I accidentally converted my 4TB drive to a dynamic drive and lost everything on it, and now it's stuck at half capacity for some reason even though I converted it back to a basic drive.

    But hey at least I'm on the latest drivers. I'll test GW2 when I reinstall it after I spend 5 hours trying to get the other half of my hard drive capacity back and recovering anything from it I can.

    What!?

    Why did you pull the 7800 out and add an 8800?!

    What you really should have done was just run the 690 by itself. Oh well. Good luck to you.

  • WootloopsWootloops Melville, NYPosts: 165Member
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Wootloops
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
    So have you tried to remove the 7800GTX yet?

    I have, and it's been a catastrophe. I took it out and put my 8800 GTX in its place, as that's still supported by the latest drivers.

    It took like an hour to even get the card in the slot, and then Windows wouldn't boot, so I spent another hour trial and erroring to no avail, and ended up having to go to Best Buy to buy another copy of Windows 8 because I have no CD since I got it as a digital download. Except now it says that my new copy of Windows won't activate because the CD was for upgrades only and I had to do a clean install. Oh and then I accidentally converted my 4TB drive to a dynamic drive and lost everything on it, and now it's stuck at half capacity for some reason even though I converted it back to a basic drive.

    But hey at least I'm on the latest drivers. I'll test GW2 when I reinstall it after I spend 5 hours trying to get the other half of my hard drive capacity back and recovering anything from it I can.

    why did you put a 8800 in there? why not just leave in the 690 alone and try it like that? dual GPU cards have always been more hassle than they are worth imho then you add a third gpu you are just asking for issues..... for comparison i have a similar setup to you but use a 670 card and hit 100 fps+ in most areas with only a couple things turned down

    I put it in because I want my fourth monitor. I don't want to play an MMO if I can't play it in my ideal set up. It's not like a single player game that I'll beat in 12 hours; MMOs are indefinate.

  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by Wootloops
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Wootloops
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
    So have you tried to remove the 7800GTX yet?

    I have, and it's been a catastrophe. I took it out and put my 8800 GTX in its place, as that's still supported by the latest drivers.

    It took like an hour to even get the card in the slot, and then Windows wouldn't boot, so I spent another hour trial and erroring to no avail, and ended up having to go to Best Buy to buy another copy of Windows 8 because I have no CD since I got it as a digital download. Except now it says that my new copy of Windows won't activate because the CD was for upgrades only and I had to do a clean install. Oh and then I accidentally converted my 4TB drive to a dynamic drive and lost everything on it, and now it's stuck at half capacity for some reason even though I converted it back to a basic drive.

    But hey at least I'm on the latest drivers. I'll test GW2 when I reinstall it after I spend 5 hours trying to get the other half of my hard drive capacity back and recovering anything from it I can.

    why did you put a 8800 in there? why not just leave in the 690 alone and try it like that? dual GPU cards have always been more hassle than they are worth imho then you add a third gpu you are just asking for issues..... for comparison i have a similar setup to you but use a 670 card and hit 100 fps+ in most areas with only a couple things turned down

    I put it in because I want my fourth monitor. I don't want to play an MMO if I can't play it in my ideal set up. It's not like a single player game that I'll beat in 12 hours; MMOs are indefinate.

    id sell the 690 and get a single gpu card then or two single gpu cards in sli/crossfire.. you are asking for to much trouble with a dual gpu card plus another card as well... are you dead set on nvidia? I'm a nvidia fan personally but AMD generally has better multiple display support

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  • WootloopsWootloops Melville, NYPosts: 165Member
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Wootloops
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Wootloops
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
    So have you tried to remove the 7800GTX yet?

    I have, and it's been a catastrophe. I took it out and put my 8800 GTX in its place, as that's still supported by the latest drivers.

    It took like an hour to even get the card in the slot, and then Windows wouldn't boot, so I spent another hour trial and erroring to no avail, and ended up having to go to Best Buy to buy another copy of Windows 8 because I have no CD since I got it as a digital download. Except now it says that my new copy of Windows won't activate because the CD was for upgrades only and I had to do a clean install. Oh and then I accidentally converted my 4TB drive to a dynamic drive and lost everything on it, and now it's stuck at half capacity for some reason even though I converted it back to a basic drive.

    But hey at least I'm on the latest drivers. I'll test GW2 when I reinstall it after I spend 5 hours trying to get the other half of my hard drive capacity back and recovering anything from it I can.

    why did you put a 8800 in there? why not just leave in the 690 alone and try it like that? dual GPU cards have always been more hassle than they are worth imho then you add a third gpu you are just asking for issues..... for comparison i have a similar setup to you but use a 670 card and hit 100 fps+ in most areas with only a couple things turned down

    I put it in because I want my fourth monitor. I don't want to play an MMO if I can't play it in my ideal set up. It's not like a single player game that I'll beat in 12 hours; MMOs are indefinate.

    id sell the 690 and get a single gpu card then or two single gpu cards in sli/crossfire.. you are asking for to much trouble with a dual gpu card plus another card as well... are you dead set on nvidia? I'm a nvidia fan personally but AMD generally has better multiple display support

    The 690 is still superior or negligible for every other game, so I don't want to sell it. And I can't have 2 cards in SLI because my motherboard only has 2 PCI-E slots, so I'd still be stuck with 3 monitors.

    I really don't think the additional card is causing any issues. It's just the one I was using was old, so I was stuck on old drivers.

  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter BristolPosts: 2,818Member Uncommon
    To help you out we need to eliminate the potential causes.

    Letting the GTX690 running on its own in a single monitor would allow us to know if the drivers or the old card were the problem or not.

    So taking the card off was a simple test that would take 5 minutes or so.

    If then GW2 worked fine we would have nailed the cause.

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  • asmkm22asmkm22 Anchorage, AKPosts: 1,788Member
    Originally posted by Wootloops
    Originally posted by RelGn
    get rid of the 7800 crap and update your drivers

    Like going black, once you go 4 monitors, you can't go back.

    Suck it up for 30 minutes and just yank the 7800 and update the drivers.  If performance is still bad, then you can at least say you ruled that out.

    You make me like charity

  • asmkm22asmkm22 Anchorage, AKPosts: 1,788Member
    Originally posted by Wootloops
     

    The 690 is still superior or negligible for every other game, so I don't want to sell it. And I can't have 2 cards in SLI because my motherboard only has 2 PCI-E slots, so I'd still be stuck with 3 monitors.

    I really don't think the additional card is causing any issues. It's just the one I was using was old, so I was stuck on old drivers.

    Just going by your posts here, I don't think you're in any way qualified to determine what is or isn't causing issues.  Yank the 7800/8800 and boot with just the 690.  See if performance still sucks or not, then come back here.

    You make me like charity

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