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[Column] Star Wars: The Old Republic: More KOTOR in SWTOR in 1.7.2

BillMurphyBillMurphy Managing EditorBerea, OHPosts: 2,365MMORPG.COM Staff Uncommon

Star Wars: The Old Republic patch 1.7.2 brings some cool new KOTOR inspired additions as well as some other major changes. We're breaking it all down for you in this week's SWTOR column.

BioWare is deploying Cartel Packs to Star Wars: The Old Republic in groupings of shipments. All the packs released from the launch of F2P in November until the last pack released a couple of weeks ago comprise ‘Shipment One’. With yesterday’s patch, the packs offered in ‘Shipment One’ as well as the level 43 one-off chest pieces offered in the Cartel Market were essentially retired and this also marked the beginning of ‘Shipment Two’.

Read more of Michael Bitton's More KOTOR in SWTOR in 1.7.2.

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  • jtcgsjtcgs New Port Richey, ILPosts: 1,777Member
    So basically they added a bunch more stuff that wont actually fill the glaring holes in the game...sweet!

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  • VolgoreVolgore Posts: 2,209Member Uncommon
    I swear i read someone saying there would be "more KOTOR IN SWTOR"...but then it was just a few items in the cash shop.

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  • MMOLIFE-AndrewMMOLIFE-Andrew Ankeny, IAPosts: 45Member

    If they want to even try and be successful, they should take a look at Tera's F2P model without restrictions. If you want players to play the game, dont give restrictions. Just add a cash shop. You will get more players, even perhaps increase the sales on your cash shop. But the number in your game, will probably double, if not triple. I know I would probably go back to swtor if it wasn't for the restrictions, but with EA as greedy and as their ears are broken, they will never listen to the people that actually play the games.

    All these items are "somewhat cool" most people don't care, because that set of people that don't purchase anything from the cash shop don't care about most of it. For the cash shop players, most will say, "I already got a cool outfit", "The 2% that are rich will say cool I gotta buy that!", but that is how all games and players will go. Now if you have a bigger player base, that 2% will actually be alot more people lol. Companies these days really don't get it at all. If they would just listen to the players that have been playing forever (12 years here) they might actually be successful and increase their revenue.

    Anyways just my 2 cents, if they want me to return to the game they would actually listen to this post.

  • Matticus75Matticus75 Posts: 396Member Uncommon
    by now this game should have had at least 4 new planets, as we can see this snails pace of released content I will come back to swtor in about 3 years to check it out. Of course many many valuable manhours will be wasted on the EA cash shop of course......not for me
  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Elmira, ONPosts: 2,499Member Uncommon

    Tera has a great F2P model, but I think that it's Tera that might need to take some pointers from SWTOR. I mean let's face it, you strip away the combat system and you've got a really, REALLY empty game. 

     

    Also, I would argue that success is being able to maintain one of the top 10 populations of an MMORPG while still having a cash shop that seems to want to make you open your wallet at every turn. 

     

    Sometimes I think that people need to have someone pry their wallet open for them so they can provide a good game. Otherwise, nobody EVER would and the game simply dies a slow and painful death.

     

    You can easily play SWTOR from 0-50 on $0. Toss $15 or $20 into the pot and you'll even get have an easier time getting there. Not sure why people continually complain about that. Have you ever bought a brand new console game for less than that? Probably not, and for $$$ vs playtime you'd be hard pressed to find a better value. Plus the story is actually present, oh and there are also distinct stories for each class (minus side quests) so that's also refreshing. I still fail to see the problem people have with cash shops, apart from those who take F2P in the literal sense. 

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  • catlanacatlana Houston, TXPosts: 1,677Member

    Back to the article, I like the new armor designs. The armor design definitely have a Kotor feel to them. I also like the new mount. More variation in armor and mounts is always good. The Cathar sword is "bleh" thou.

    As far as the Cartel shop rep goes, I have mixed feelings. Yeah, the armor is only orange shells but I still dislike that you can not get the armor shells through other ways by playing the game.   

  • VorthanionVorthanion Laguna Vista, TXPosts: 2,119Member Uncommon
    Cosmetic might not seem like such a bad word, but if all the cool looking stuff is cash shop only and the dropable items look like crap for the most part, then I think there is an issue.  Why even call this an update at all as 95% of it is cash shop and only 5% is an actual update to the game proper.

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  • Butch808Butch808 sheffieldPosts: 319Member Uncommon
    *broken record mode* Not intrested until they add a decent freeform spaceship experience.
  • birdycephonbirdycephon Salt Lake City, UTPosts: 1,314Member
    Originally posted by Vorthanion

    Cosmetic might not seem like such a bad word, but if all the cool looking stuff is cash shop only and the dropable items look like crap for the most part, then I think there is an issue.  Why even call this an update at all as 95% of it is cash shop and only 5% is an actual update to the game proper.

    Agreed. The time it takes to make cosmetic items could have been used to make actual content. This is unfortunately what makes f2p games fail. 

  • TheJodaTheJoda chicago, ILPosts: 467Member
    200 million on this......just throw in the towel already!

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  • SkuallSkuall UnknowPosts: 1,285Member Uncommon

    "the flat experience reduction rate will also trickle in instead of hitting you as soon as you reach level 10. Now, you’ll start seeing experience reductions beginning at level 12, and these reductions will increase gradually until reaching the old flat rate by the time you hit level 20"

     

    hahahahaha

  • FromHellFromHell NY, NYPosts: 1,311Member
    Anyone else got the feeling SWTOR has become a 3D cash slot machine in some Star Wars styled Las Vegas hotel?
     
     

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  • Effin_RabbitEffin_Rabbit Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 773Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by FromHell
    Anyone else got the feeling SWTOR has become a 3D cash slot machine in some Star Wars styled Las Vegas hotel?
     
     

    Yes

  • birdycephonbirdycephon Salt Lake City, UTPosts: 1,314Member
    Originally posted by FromHell

    Anyone else got the feeling SWTOR has become a 3D cash slot machine in some Star Wars styled Las Vegas hotel?  
     

    Nope, cuz their cartel packs are nonsense. More like a tax, if you know what I mean.

  • erictlewiserictlewis Cottondale, ALPosts: 3,026Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by FromHell
    Anyone else got the feeling SWTOR has become a 3D cash slot machine in some Star Wars styled Las Vegas hotel?
     
     

    Rofl I almost spilled an entire can of mountain dew on my keyboard when I read that.   Yes, that is a good analagy

     

  • AhnogAhnog Keller, TXPosts: 231Member Uncommon
    Thanks for the positiive write up. [mod edit]

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  • UronksurUronksur Redmond, WAPosts: 311Member Uncommon
    How boring. More cosmetic armor sets and gambling packs you have to keep buying in hopes you'll get that rare flying throne? No thanks. 
  • MMOGamer71MMOGamer71 Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 1,930Member Uncommon
    So this is KOTOR and not an MMO as claimed by some one year ago?
  • dimasokdimasok toronto, ONPosts: 189Member
    So I spent 10 dollars on cartels, rolled twice on each pack and didnt get any mounts. what a waste.
  • EhllfhireEhllfhire Sacramento, CAPosts: 597Member
    So they want everyone to spend more money in th cash shop by not offering items for eternity. BUY NOW BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!!!!!!!  Another greedy scam by EA

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  • observerobserver Houston, TXPosts: 3,009Member Uncommon
    Their whole F2P model is atrocious.  The prhase, "nickel and diming", is taken to another level with this genre.
  • OzmodanOzmodan Hilliard, OHPosts: 7,189Member Uncommon
    Fix the space portion of the game instead of all this fluff.
  • BeyornBeyorn Canton, GAPosts: 249Member Uncommon
    Where is all the KOTOR goodness ;(.
  • cronius77cronius77 Fairfax, VAPosts: 1,347Member Uncommon

    what do you guys expect its EA doing what they do best . Just dont play it if you hate it there are better free to play games out there if you are worried about not spending a dime of money. To a subscriber I can easily see why none of this really bothers them including Mike B. You get 500 cartel coins a month to spend on whatever you like and there really isnt much to spend on but some boosts and cartel packs. One is 380 the other is 180 so you can basically get two a month for free with your sub fee and not any money needed. I know back when I played I used my cartel coins they gave us and my sub 500 which was well over 1000 to buy some gambling packs and I left my toon with about 1000k credits from selling stuff and even ended up with a pay to win  +41 endurence level 10 pink light saber crystal. 

    People pay for novalty and Im not really sure how any of this is pay to win or shady considering wow does the exact same thing in their cash shop with mounts and pets . Hell I remember wows stupid black lion flying mount selling over 2 million dollars worth in less than 24 hours when it first released , the golden king.

  • PpiperPpiper Horsham, PAPosts: 648Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by dimasok
    So I spent 10 dollars on cartels, rolled twice on each pack and didnt get any mounts. what a waste.

    gotcha, had the same experience.

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