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This is the Holy Grail of MMORPG's

tauraktaurak rock cave, WVPosts: 174Member

This will be one of the most anticipated titles in MMORPG history.

So many people want a Dark Age of Camelot 2!

Please make pvp and realm pride mean something once again!

Please get rid of the instanced gameplay, where community doesn't matter.

Guilds need to band together to support their realm, even solo players should be invited to the massive raids to defend the castles. A newbie's sword is just as sharp and swift as a seasoned veteran, nobody who wants to participate in a "realm war" should be left behind, no matter what guild they are from!

Solo players have their place in a realm war, picking off stragglers, but they should never be alienated.

Give us a reason to become friends with other guilds, give us a reason to have a community where your reputation as a player means something! Not just to your guild, but to your entire realm. Make players have pride in their characters, pride in their realm above all, and pride in their guild too.

Games like world of warcraft and their instanced gameplay have destroyed the true meaning of what an MMORPG should be. They form small elite groups, and spit on other players of their own faction. They will walk right past you and watch you get killed by a member of an opposing faction, and not even stop to lend you a hand.

Remember leveling in Dark Age of Camelot in pvp, having a non resetting battleground, where if someone takes a castle, they keep it until someone else defeats them. The low level battlegrounds in DAoC were so fun and memorable, they taught you how to play your character, and play it well.

Combat will need to be very fluid, like world of warcraft, yet with the mechanics of DAoC, such as skills that can only be used when behind or beside a character,or after another skill forming a chain. Don't limit the ammount of skills like what was done with Guild Wars 2.

If you give us a game like this I will gladly pay you $40 a month to play.

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  • sweetdigssweetdigs Washington, DCPosts: 196Member

    Amen, brother!  Preach it!

    I, too, already pay $45/month to play Eve.  I would gladly pay $40/month to play a truly awesome, old school MMO that is all about RvR and building up various cities/keeps and crafting to support those efforts.

  • shadeviceshadevice memphis, TNPosts: 68Member
    Originally posted by sweetdigs

    Amen, brother!  Preach it!

    I, too, already pay $45/month to play Eve.  I would gladly pay $40/month to play a truly awesome, old school MMO that is all about RvR and building up various cities/keeps and crafting to support those efforts.

    $45 a month to play Eve? 0.o

  • NeokiNaomiNeokiNaomi Anchorage, AKPosts: 326Member Uncommon

    I used to pay about 500 a year (thanks to yearly 60% discount) to play AO. And yes I will join you in DAoC for a high price if it's worth a damn like the old one.

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  • DoogiehowserDoogiehowser ParisPosts: 1,873Member
    Hmm are you sure OP? i thought GW2 was holy grail of MMOS? there can be only one holy grail.

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  • GrimmxGrimmx SandefjordPosts: 219Member
    Originally posted by Doogiehowser
    Hmm are you sure OP? i thought GW2 was holy grail of MMOS? there can be only one holy grail.

    Please dont even go there:)

  • oubersoubers bazelPosts: 876Member Common

    All games are holy grails until they go live....then the hype dies and they are just games.

     

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  • ZoeMcCloskeyZoeMcCloskey Phoenix, AZPosts: 1,146Member Uncommon
    I concur!!!

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  • PhryPhry HampshirePosts: 6,289Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by oubers

    All games are holy grails until they go live....then the hype dies and they are just games.

     

    all too true, think OP needs to also remember that DAoC wasnt just a PVP game, PVP was just a part of it, it also had regular PVE gameplay, though undoubtedly for DAoC, the PVP was the end game.image

  • winterwinter El Paso, TXPosts: 2,276Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Doogiehowser
    Hmm are you sure OP? i thought GW2 was holy grail of MMOS? there can be only one holy grail.

      No, no Darkfall was the holy grail of MMO's and then DFUW! Where have you all been? Hell CU  hasn't even been kickstarted yet and no work other then theory crafting has been done on it from its indie company. I know the hype train is big whenever any new game is announced but man some of you are really going out on a limb here. (You know that game thats not gonna be DAoC 2 as MJ says, and hasn't started development yet, and isn't funded yet? yeah that games gonna be the Holy grail of MMORPG's!)

  • KyleranKyleran Tampa, FLPosts: 19,981Member Uncommon
    It's not even fair to call this title a proper MMORPG if you consider the fact it really well contain only a subset of the functionality that DAOC provided. Might need to invent a new title for it depending on what is finally delivered.

    Could end up being a great game regardless as long as people don't set up unrealistic expectations, which unfortunately appears to already be happening. (which always seems to be the case)

    In my day MMORPG's were so hard we fought our way through dungeons in the snow, uphill both ways.
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  • LexinLexin Ellenville, NYPosts: 702Member Uncommon
    That type of community is almost extinct sadly. Both MMO's and the community have degraded to what they are now. But not saying there is no community like that but it's very small these days.

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  • SaevelSaevel OsloPosts: 102Member
    Originally posted by Kyleran
    It's not even fair to call this title a proper MMORPG if you consider the fact it really well contain only a subset of the functionality that DAOC provided. Might need to invent a new title for it depending on what is finally delivered.

     

    Of course it's still an MMORPG, PvE or no PvE. According to Mark, it will be a game with strong RPG elements where loads of people will be able to play together at the same time, in a persistent world. That's MMORPG defined for you, right there.

  • FugglyFuggly Newport News, VAPosts: 141Member
    Wow, and here I thought the last game to come out was "THE MOST ANITICIPATED TITLE IN HISTORY"...........................I may or may noit check this one out. meh.

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  • BenediktBenedikt PraguePosts: 1,406Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by taurak

    This will be one of the most anticipated titles in MMORPG history.

    So many people want a Dark Age of Camelot 2!

    sorry to burst your bubble, but - no. most of the mmorpg players will not even try it, because most of the mmorpg players are casual players who wants to play their pve quests in F2P game w/o possibility they will be attacked any time they log in.

    FFA PVP P2P MMORPG will never be more then a niche.

  • shadeviceshadevice memphis, TNPosts: 68Member
    Originally posted by Benedikt
     

    sorry to burst your bubble, but - no. most of the mmorpg players will not even try it, because most of the mmorpg players are casual players who wants to play their pve quests in F2P game w/o possibility they will be attacked any time they log in.

    FFA PVP P2P MMORPG will never be more then a niche.

    Oh master Seer, will you use your diviniation skill to also peer into my future? how long will I live? will I ever go impotent?

    Thanks

    ps CU isnt FFA, its RVR. pretty much the difference between Louis CK and Kat Williams...but I know you tossed that in there for even more "I'm right" factor.

  • BenediktBenedikt PraguePosts: 1,406Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by shadevice
    Originally posted by Benedikt
     

    sorry to burst your bubble, but - no. most of the mmorpg players will not even try it, because most of the mmorpg players are casual players who wants to play their pve quests in F2P game w/o possibility they will be attacked any time they log in.

    FFA PVP P2P MMORPG will never be more then a niche.

    Oh master Seer, will you use your diviniation skill to also peer into my future? how long will I live? will I ever go impotent?

    Thanks

    ps CU isnt FFA, its RVR. pretty much the difference between Louis CK and Kat Williams...but I know you tossed that in there for even more "I'm right" factor.

    i dont need crystal ball for that. while i am excited for CU, i am not blinded by fanboism. RvR (only marginaly better ods for that than FFA) P2P MMORPG w/o PVE will never be more then a niche. which doesnt mean that it cannt be succesful - it just never will have million(s) players.

  • IcewhiteIcewhite Elmhurst, ILPosts: 6,403Member
    Originally posted by taurak

    This will be one of the most anticipated titles in MMORPG history.

    How many times have we heard that phrase, boys?

    If only I had a nickel...

    Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  • SpeelySpeely Seattle, WAPosts: 861Member
    Eh, I will just be happy if it has enough subs to keep CSE supporting the game well and make RVR well-populated.
  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread PshPosts: 5,498Member Uncommon
    Is it the Second Coming?
  • nbtscannbtscan Phoenix, AZPosts: 774Member Uncommon

    I thought the Holy Grail was a mythical item.

    I never played DAoC personally, but I'm sure the people who did liked it a lot and are looking for a modernized version of it.  However, isn't it a bit early to judge something that's still an idea and not even in development?

  • tauraktaurak rock cave, WVPosts: 174Member

    Yeah I know its a bit early to say all this stuff, but I am hopeing, HOPEING, that they see that instances are one of the main parts that made warhammer online fail.

     

    I know DAoC had PvE as well yes, and PvE is not a bad thing to have in games like this. Raids are fun too, but it sucks to see how many MMORPG's have pushed aside PvP, and also pushed aside the major things that make a MMORPG a MMORPG.

     

    Like I said, games like WoW, you can play that game from lvl 1-90, and not make a single friend. That is HORRIBLE in my oppinion.

     

    Your reputation on a server should be important to you, and with everyone jumping into the first available instance, with players on a different server than yourself... Who cares if you ninja loot that item from so and so, and be very rude to everyone in your group, they aren't on your server, and chances are you'll never see them again.

     

    Guilds don't even interract with eachother on a server anymore unless its just to brag abotu killing easymode bosses and showing off lame loot, that looks worse in every expansion. (yes still talkign wow sorry)

     

    The community needs to come back to massively multiplayer online roleplaying games... Joining an instance with randoms does not promote community. I have high hopes that this will happen in this game.

     

     

  • sweetdigssweetdigs Washington, DCPosts: 196Member

    This is definitely not the holy grail of MMOs.  And it shouldn't be.  It should be the holy grail of PVP/RVR MMOs, though! 

  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member
    Originally posted by oubers

    All games are holy grails until they go live....then the hype dies and they are just games.

    Yeah, I mostly just sit back and wait for the reactions now...

    I see a lot of CU threads on this site now, but I've never seen the game.  Any gameplay vids up or just people getting themselves ready for potential disappointment............ again?

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,195Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    Originally posted by oubers

    All games are holy grails until they go live....then the hype dies and they are just games.

    Yeah, I mostly just sit back and wait for the reactions now...

    I see a lot of CU threads on this site now, but I've never seen the game.  Any gameplay vids up or just people getting themselves ready for potential disappointment............ again?

    I can't wait for the fallout.  The game is being developed on an indie budget.  The expectations are insanely high.  What could go wrong?

  • sweetdigssweetdigs Washington, DCPosts: 196Member
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    Originally posted by oubers

    All games are holy grails until they go live....then the hype dies and they are just games.

    Yeah, I mostly just sit back and wait for the reactions now...

    I see a lot of CU threads on this site now, but I've never seen the game.  Any gameplay vids up or just people getting themselves ready for potential disappointment............ again?

    Gameplay vids?  Oh, we're a LONG ways from those.  All the excitement around here is simply based on the founding principles for the game and the people that will be responsible for its development.

    Sure, some of us are setting ourselves up for potential disappointment.  But so what?  If you don't get excited about anything, you might as well quit living.

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