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  • drebiandrebian San Diego, CAPosts: 28Member
    Originally posted by Jyiiga

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUl_Cj2_KWU

    I have not bought it, but I find a 30 min line to play a single player game hilariously terrible. 

     

     

    I do not intend to buy this game solely because of this style of DRM. I've been burned in the past with this style...

    Anyone here ever buy Darkspore? Same DRM style... Try installing it now and playing it. You can't because the servers were brought offline permanently... I refuse to buy a game and have a chance that I can't enjoy it later if I want simply because a company realizes how expensive keeping their DRM enforcement in place costs them...

    I, personally, have no problem with DRM. It does reduce the number of pirated games, but this is just going too far. Maybe they should do it like Anno 2070. If you don't want to play online (or can't) have a button below the play button for an offline mode. Then when you have access or the desire to play online, do so. I play online Anno 2070 quite frequently with my roommate and older brother. That system works for me. I already expect people to come on here bashing why Anno is such a garbage game or why their DRM system sucks so much, but I'm putting out my opinion. Nothing you say or do can change it...

    *EDITED due to typos*

  • drebiandrebian San Diego, CAPosts: 28Member
    Originally posted by stayontarget
    Originally posted by Gravarg
    Just like in any game, cheaters and hackers only ruin the game for the rest of us, which in turn ruins the game for themselves. What's the point of playing a game when you can do anything you want without working towards it...that gets old fast.

    Its a singleplayer game, so who cares if people cheat on it.

    stayontarget,

    This is a game that can be played single player or multiplayer, whether it's through private (friends and family) or public "zones"... Each zone consists of multiple areas that you can build a city in... You can trade between cities for various resources, regardless of if you are playing single or multiplayer. To do this in Single Player you simply have to have multiple cities that you have built up that can have a mutual trading need/desire.

  • BitterClingerBitterClinger Newark, DEPosts: 225Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by drebian
    Originally posted by stayontarget
    Originally posted by Gravarg
    Just like in any game, cheaters and hackers only ruin the game for the rest of us, which in turn ruins the game for themselves. What's the point of playing a game when you can do anything you want without working towards it...that gets old fast.

    Its a singleplayer game, so who cares if people cheat on it.

    stayontarget,

    This is a game that can be played single player or multiplayer, whether it's through private (friends and family) or public "zones"... Each zone consists of multiple areas that you can build a city in... You can trade between cities for various resources, regardless of if you are playing single or multiplayer. To do this in Single Player you simply have to have multiple cities that you have built up that can have a mutual trading need/desire.

    I'm having a hard time getting trading to work. So far, the resources never show up (even though they're deducted from the source city). I've tried to trade between Bittersburg and Clingerville, and I know it takes some time for the trade to actually go through; but the problem is the trade has never gone through.

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  • AoriAori Carbondale, ILPosts: 1,886Member Uncommon

    I don't like EA in general but ya know what they still own 1 IP i'll always be a sucker for. Anyways if you like the game and want to play it then buy it, obviously the company is doing something right. However If you're going to bash EA and their products but turn around and pirate it because you want it, you're just a scumbag thief.

  • MarirranyaMarirranya Ortario, OHPosts: 154Member

    damn.

    i really wanted to buy this coz i thought it was single-player that has multi-player functions as well like Civ V

     

    you have to be logged into an online server in order to play it now???

    zzz the reason why i play these games is because the net usually fucks up or something

    There are people who play games and then there are gamers.

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  • ElikalElikal ValhallaPosts: 7,906Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by drebian
    Originally posted by Jyiiga

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUl_Cj2_KWU

    I have not bought it, but I find a 30 min line to play a single player game hilariously terrible. 

     

     

    I do not intend to buy this game solely because of this style of DRM. I've been burned in the past with this style...

    Anyone here ever buy Darkspore? Same DRM style... Try installing it now and playing it. You can't because the servers were brought offline permanently... I refuse to buy a game and have a chance that I can't enjoy it later if I want simply because a company realizes how expensive keeping their DRM enforcement in place costs them...

    I, personally, have no problem with DRM. It does reduce the number of pirated games, but this is just going too far. Maybe they should do it like Anno 2070. If you don't want to play online (or can't) have a button below the play button for an offline mode. Then when you have access or the desire to play online, do so. I play online Anno 2070 quite frequently with my roommate and older brother. That system works for me. I already expect people to come on here bashing why Anno is such a garbage game or why their DRM system sucks so much, but I'm putting out my opinion. Nothing you say or do can change it...

    *EDITED due to typos*

    I agree with you. It's a pity, since SImCity seems not too bad, but for all the reasons you mentions I don't support it.

     

    Oh and with 548 1-star votes on Amazon and 1218 Metacritic ratings making 2.1 of 10, I guess it's no longer "just a few trolls." It's a fucking catastrophe.

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  • WarmakerWarmaker San Diego, CAPosts: 2,231Member
    Originally posted by olepi

    A single player game, where you have to be logged into an online server in order to play it??

     

    BWAHAHAHA!

    Indeed.  Entertaining, no?

    "I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)

  • TorgrimTorgrim GothenburgPosts: 2,088Member

    I rather play Cities XL than SimCIty 5.

    Atleast in XL the maps are huges and you can do many things and much cheaper.

    http://store.steampowered.com/app/231140/?l

    If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  • StonesDKStonesDK SomewherePosts: 1,805Member
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    Originally posted by Starpower
    Originally posted by nilden

    Yeah they also had this issue. http://kotaku.com/simcity/

    Oh and on Metacritic that user score is 2.9 right now. http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/simcity

    I did not buy it and EA can die.

    I'm not saying your reasons for not buying EA products isn't a valid one but quoting metacritic is laughable at best and downright pathetic at worst. You have people voting who never have and never will play it. I'd much rather somebody gave an opinion based on .. you know.. actually having played the game?

     

    Try read some of them posts at metacritic and tell me if they haven't played it.

    Yeah I can't really defend anything at this point. This is pretty bad

  • dimnikardimnikar ZanistanvillePosts: 271Member

    It's just DRM, ffs. Get used to it - it's here to stay.

    I hate it when people judge games based on initial DRM issues (server overloads etc.). Same bullshit happened with Diablo 3 and countless other games.

    I have no actual opinion regarding Sim CIty 5 as I haven't played it yet (nor do I intend to), but find this whole DRM business quite unfair.

     

    Metacritic userscores are a failed concept; until they lockout user reviews til *AT  LEAST* two weeks after initial release, they're completely and utterly IRRELEVANT.

  • EladiEladi ArnhemPosts: 1,100Member Uncommon

    Meh, I havent brought a EA game for a long time whit the exception of sw:tor <- mistake ..

    I do play EA games, I just find other ways to get the games I might like and play whitout DRM, aint like i play games for their multiplayer anyway, that I got MMO's for.

     

     

     

  • StonesDKStonesDK SomewherePosts: 1,805Member
    Originally posted by dimnikar

    It's just DRM, ffs. Get used to it - it's here to stay.

    Maybe you should tell that to those who have been able to play since the 5th only to experience the servers being down most of the time then up the next only to be brought down again. DRM isn't the problem. DRM that causes such an inconvenience for a game that shouldn't need an online requirement is quite frankly rediculous

  • ComanComan Hattem, AKPosts: 2,035Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by dimnikar

    It's just DRM, ffs. Get used to it - it's here to stay.

     

    It's not DRM at all. These systems do not work and they manage no-ones digital rights. Well beside pissing off legit costumers, but that is not the way you want your digital right to be managed I guess. I understand and support the poeple who complain. I however do not mind it much as I do not pay for a subscription. I can ensure you that I and other legit consumer are waiting to play while the pirates are enjoying the game, with happen a countless times (Settlers for example).

    I expected it and do not worry about it however I do hope it not here to stay and if it is then please they need to get there stuff together and stop messing up. After so many launches, how do they still mess this up? Same with MMO's and launches how is the server load still unexpected?

    Originally posted by Starpower
    Originally posted by dimnikar

    It's just DRM, ffs. Get used to it - it's here to stay.

    Maybe you should tell that to those who have been able to play since the 5th only to experience the servers being down most of the time then up the next only to be brought down again. DRM isn't the problem. DRM that causes such an inconvenience for a game that shouldn't need it is quite frankly rediculous

     

    The game should have had an offline mode. I really do not understand how they still believe this actually helps against piracy. I think this might actually push poeple to illigally download games with these type of DRM. 

     

  • alakramalakram malagaPosts: 2,225Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Jyiiga

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUl_Cj2_KWU

    I have not bought it, but I find a 30 min line to play a single player game hilariously terrible. 

     

     

    Was thinking on buying it, thanks for the heads up, not buying it now.

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  • DarthMajinDarthMajin Sparta, WIPosts: 92Member
    EA is having it's problems with the servers because they simply didn't expect the sales they got. The servers will be fixed and stuff will run smooth. The game itself is downright amazing. As far as everyone whining about the DRM, SimCity is NOT a single player game. You get 2 options, to play publicly ONLINE with random people or to play in a private ONLINE region where you can just invite your friends. The whole game is online. No offline, singleplayer element to it. I'm not a big fan of EA but I love this game and I will wait patiently until the problems are fixed, not like I was gonna play this game for a week and then stop, it's here to stay for me.

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  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Stone Mountain, GAPosts: 13,672Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by dimnikar

    It's just DRM, ffs. Get used to it - it's here to stay.

    I hate it when people judge games based on initial DRM issues (server overloads etc.). Same bullshit happened with Diablo 3 and countless other games.

    And it will continue to happen as long as people continue to buy these games and say "It's just DRM, ffs. Get used to it."

     

    If the gamers say "Fix your shit or you don't get my money," then the devs are pressured to fix it. Until then, the devs know that they can still release with DRM that does this.

    There will be a heavier load that first week. It costs them money to properly support it, however, if it doesn't hurt sales to ride it out, they'll save the money and continue to let it happen. It's just smart business on their part.

    There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
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  • ElikalElikal ValhallaPosts: 7,906Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Loktofeit
    Originally posted by dimnikar

    It's just DRM, ffs. Get used to it - it's here to stay.

    I hate it when people judge games based on initial DRM issues (server overloads etc.). Same bullshit happened with Diablo 3 and countless other games.

    And it will continue to happen as long as people continue to buy these games and say "It's just DRM, ffs. Get used to it."

     

    If the gamers say "Fix your shit or you don't get my money," then the devs are pressured to fix it. Until then, the devs know that they can still release with DRM that does this.

    There will be a heavier load that first week. It costs them money to properly support it, however, if it doesn't hurt sales to ride it out, they'll save the money and continue to let it happen. It's just smart business on their part.

    Yes but it is evil. Gamers are addicts. They BUY their game even if they have to literally live from water and bread. I know enough such people. Gaming isn't a hobby like knitting or bowling where you change to another bowling club if you don't like yours. If there is a new SimCity or a new Civilization or a next DragonAge or another Star Wars game, people WILL buy it, no matter how trashy, shitty and broken it is. They will curse it and put needles in voodoo dolls looking like the devs, but they will buy it because gamers are addicted to their games. Developers know this and don't care if the drug is rotten, because they know their customers will buy the rotten drug anyway.

    Sorry to be so blunt, but that's how I see it.

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  • marksteelemarksteele Newtonville, ONPosts: 26Member

    A few things I wanna mention.

     

    1) I did buy the game, its super addicting...when you can play it

    2) its nearly impossible to play it

    3) Its only been 2 days since launch, give maxis and EA time to fix stuff, at least the game is playable at times...thats more than I can say for some games at launch.

    4) If a week passes and the issues are still there, THEN I can understand people complaining about the DRM failing.

    5) the reason there is a small city size is beucase of the 1:1 simulation. Most games are a simulation of a simulation, this isnt

    That being said, although a lot of the issue is DRM the fact is anything outside of your city (regional and world simulation) takes place on EA's servers. Thats why they are being overloaded. So while I don't agree with their choice, I wanted to clarify its not JUST DRM that requires always online.

  • BrianshoBriansho Woodbridge, VAPosts: 4,779Member Uncommon

    Not a big deal people! EA is a gret company, they will get this fixed soon! They thank everyone who payed full price for the game! Just be patient everything all right!

    Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!

  • alkarionlogalkarionlog SPosts: 1,125Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by BrooksTech
    Originally posted by Uhwop

    It's been a pain to play, but holy crap it's an awesome game. 

    I can suffer through the release pains, very worth it. 

    I am with you!

    Complaints about always on DRM on an MMO forum... it makes me smile.  MMO's invented always on DRM... and guess what? Its effective.

    I don't mind, the game is fun.

    yeah its effective, they never ever make a pirated server or free server of mmo games..... oh wait....

     

     

    also comparing a MMO with a single player game? yeah that is the thing who make me smile

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  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Stone Mountain, GAPosts: 13,672Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Briansho

    Not a big deal people! EA is a gret company, they will get this fixed soon! They thank everyone who payed full price for the game! Just be patient everything all right!

    I was reading that and was confused. I thought, "That doesn't seem very Briansho."

    ...and then the image loaded. :)

     

    There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
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  • PhryPhry HampshirePosts: 6,296Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Coman
    Originally posted by dimnikar

    It's just DRM, ffs. Get used to it - it's here to stay.

     

    It's not DRM at all. These systems do not work and they manage no-ones digital rights. Well beside pissing off legit costumers, but that is not the way you want your digital right to be managed I guess. I understand and support the poeple who complain. I however do not mind it much as I do not pay for a subscription. I can ensure you that I and other legit consumer are waiting to play while the pirates are enjoying the game, with happen a countless times (Settlers for example).

    I expected it and do not worry about it however I do hope it not here to stay and if it is then please they need to get there stuff together and stop messing up. After so many launches, how do they still mess this up? Same with MMO's and launches how is the server load still unexpected?

    Originally posted by Starpower
    Originally posted by dimnikar

    It's just DRM, ffs. Get used to it - it's here to stay.

    Maybe you should tell that to those who have been able to play since the 5th only to experience the servers being down most of the time then up the next only to be brought down again. DRM isn't the problem. DRM that causes such an inconvenience for a game that shouldn't need it is quite frankly rediculous

     

    The game should have had an offline mode. I really do not understand how they still believe this actually helps against piracy. I think this might actually push poeple to illigally download games with these type of DRM. 

     

    one of the reasons why its online is because the game needs it, some of the game runs on your pc, some of it runs on the server, which is why no matter how many times the game is pirated, the pirated copies will not work as the client side is not enough on its own for the game to play, you also need the server software, and im guessing thats not downloadable from anywhere. One of the side effects of this is that the game probably runs on a lower spec system than it might otherwise. image

  • GrayGhost79GrayGhost79 Webster, MAPosts: 4,813Member
    Originally posted by Phry
    Originally posted by Coman
    Originally posted by dimnikar

    It's just DRM, ffs. Get used to it - it's here to stay.

     

    It's not DRM at all. These systems do not work and they manage no-ones digital rights. Well beside pissing off legit costumers, but that is not the way you want your digital right to be managed I guess. I understand and support the poeple who complain. I however do not mind it much as I do not pay for a subscription. I can ensure you that I and other legit consumer are waiting to play while the pirates are enjoying the game, with happen a countless times (Settlers for example).

    I expected it and do not worry about it however I do hope it not here to stay and if it is then please they need to get there stuff together and stop messing up. After so many launches, how do they still mess this up? Same with MMO's and launches how is the server load still unexpected?

    Originally posted by Starpower
    Originally posted by dimnikar

    It's just DRM, ffs. Get used to it - it's here to stay.

    Maybe you should tell that to those who have been able to play since the 5th only to experience the servers being down most of the time then up the next only to be brought down again. DRM isn't the problem. DRM that causes such an inconvenience for a game that shouldn't need it is quite frankly rediculous

     

    The game should have had an offline mode. I really do not understand how they still believe this actually helps against piracy. I think this might actually push poeple to illigally download games with these type of DRM. 

     

    one of the reasons why its online is because the game needs it, some of the game runs on your pc, some of it runs on the server, which is why no matter how many times the game is pirated, the pirated copies will not work as the client side is not enough on its own for the game to play, you also need the server software, and im guessing thats not downloadable from anywhere. One of the side effects of this is that the game probably runs on a lower spec system than it might otherwise. image

    I promise you that you are wrong lol... 

  • ComanComan Hattem, AKPosts: 2,035Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Phry
    one of the reasons why its online is because the game needs it, some of the game runs on your pc, some of it runs on the server, which is why no matter how many times the game is pirated, the pirated copies will not work as the client side is not enough on its own for the game to play, you also need the server software, and im guessing thats not downloadable from anywhere. One of the side effects of this is that the game probably runs on a lower spec system than it might otherwise. image

    Settlers 7 took 4 days befor an emulator was created to emulate the server. That server also "held" game vital components for the game. It clearly did not work.

    Driver Sand Francisco took about 22 days. In a case like this some of the pirates might decide to buy the game after all, but I doubt they generate more money from that then the cost of the always on feature.

    Just ask Ubisoft why they stoped using it.

    Also there are private servers for WoW and such. You can not download that either and I am sure that is harder to emulate then the SimCity server. 

  • CleffyCleffy San Diego, CAPosts: 4,625Member Uncommon
    I like this genre of game, and like Sim City.  However, there is no way I am every buying an EA game again.  Cities XL seems like the only option now which I already have.  For DRMs, the always on is not that difficult to deal with since I am always online anyway.  The problem I have with this scheme is that EA has built an overcomplicated system that prevents playing unlike Steam's always on drm.
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