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  • KnutCupKnutCup Hinton, ABPosts: 21Member

    To me, EA can do whatever it is they want to, I HATE ORIGIN, I will not load it, so, whatever...

    EA gets zero of my money.

  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid hell, NJPosts: 6,753Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Wighty


    "We are building into all of our games the ability to pay for things along the way; to get to a higher level," said EA CFO Blake Jorgensen. "And consumers are enjoying and embracing that way of business."

     

    sorry to disappoint you mister Jorgensen. I pay for extra stuff that i want, and i want a lot of them, but I dont pay for progression.

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  • KruulKruul Houston, TXPosts: 476Member
    SOE is just as bad, if not worse.
  • WalterWhiteWalterWhite CardiffPosts: 394Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Kruul
    SOE is just as bad, if not worse.

    I'm no fan of $OE as I will not forgive them (or LA) for the NGE put they are no where near the lowness of EA.

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  • steamtanksteamtank Rochester, NYPosts: 385Member

    ive stopped buying games that include microtransaction cash shops

     

    i spend up to the cost of a new game in micro shops for GOOD free games (PoE, LoL)

     

    i want an mmo where I get access to EARNING anything I want for my sub fee.

     

     

    I cant wait till some decent developers hire enough people in who have gotten sick of games being ruined by cash shops that a massive backlash against them occurs. It might never happen, so my raiding days might be over for good

     

     

     

  • zomard100zomard100 karlovacPosts: 228Member
    You work for free?  You don't need money?
  • MindTriggerMindTrigger La Quinta, CAPosts: 2,596Member
    Originally posted by asmkm22
    Originally posted by Wighty

    Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse!

     

    Electronic Arts during a Morgan Stanley Technology, Media, and Telecom Conference stating that the company is so pleased with its forays into the world of microtransactions, that they are bringing the support for these in-house, and that "all" their future games will feature microtransactions.

    "We are building into all of our games the ability to pay for things along the way; to get to a higher level," said EA CFO Blake Jorgensen. "And consumers are enjoying and embracing that way of business."

     

    http://www.develop-online.net/news/43388/EA-taking-microtransactions-in-house

     

    Just goes to show you that this is all just a business and you will be nickel and dimed to death...  While this may pertain to single player and co-op style games, EA also has a host of MMO's. This is why I support Sub style games and independent developers

     

    Everyone wanted F2P, and this is the result.  It's sad, but you reap what you sow.

    I agree completely with this comment.  I've been around here for a long time, and I've heard the whining for F2P from most of you for the last few years.  

    YES, this is a business.  What did you think, OP, that these game developers are making games out of the kindness of their hearts for you to play for free?  Time to join reality.  You guys couldn't be arsed to pay a measly $15 per month for a sub fee, now you've got microtransactions.  These companies have to make money one way or another.  You asked for it, you got it.

    A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.

  • DihoruDihoru ConstantaPosts: 2,731Member
    Originally posted by MindTrigger
    Originally posted by asmkm22
    Originally posted by Wighty

    Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse!

     

    Electronic Arts during a Morgan Stanley Technology, Media, and Telecom Conference stating that the company is so pleased with its forays into the world of microtransactions, that they are bringing the support for these in-house, and that "all" their future games will feature microtransactions.

    "We are building into all of our games the ability to pay for things along the way; to get to a higher level," said EA CFO Blake Jorgensen. "And consumers are enjoying and embracing that way of business."

     

    http://www.develop-online.net/news/43388/EA-taking-microtransactions-in-house

     

    Just goes to show you that this is all just a business and you will be nickel and dimed to death...  While this may pertain to single player and co-op style games, EA also has a host of MMO's. This is why I support Sub style games and independent developers

     

    Everyone wanted F2P, and this is the result.  It's sad, but you reap what you sow.

    I agree completely with this comment.  I've been around here for a long time, and I've heard the whining for F2P from most of you for the last few years.  

    YES, this is a business.  What did you think, OP, that these game developers are making games out of the kindness of their hearts for you to play for free?  Time to join reality.  You guys couldn't be arsed to pay a measly $15 per month for a sub fee, now you've got microtransactions.  These companies have to make money one way or another.  You asked for it, you got it.

    So you're defending EA by blaming us F2Pers? Cool story bro now go cry somewhere else that what was gonna happen anyway happened on F2P's time in the spotlight ( are you seriously gonna say the sympthoms of corporate greed haven't been visible for at least 8 years with the rush of devs to convert their MMOs into WoW clones, the end results of which are well known and include the likes of Star Wars Galaxies New Game Experience and that god awful expansion that neutered Ultima Online).

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  • BladestromBladestrom edinburghPosts: 4,941Member Uncommon
    Lol 'I want to pay £180 a year just for the privilage of playing a single game I have bought says the poster from 5 years ago. Il go for the gw2 or path of exile model Ty.

    rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar

    Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D

  • KaeriganKaerigan None Of Your BusinessPosts: 689Member

    Yes, keep saying that this is what F2P players want. 'cuz F2P players want games that have an up-front cost and then also microtransactions, right? That's what F2P is, right?

    <childish, provocative and highly speculative banner about your favorite game goes here>

  • Dexter2010Dexter2010 Beverly Hills, CAPosts: 244Member Common
    Who cares? I boycott them anyway.
  • BladestromBladestrom edinburghPosts: 4,941Member Uncommon
    For those that think it's good value for money to pay a sub for a game or cash shop to release items, I get about 200 channels of tv, and unlimited broadband Internet access for £15, that's vales for money, not 1 game. Time to get Somme 2013 perspective and start refusing to pay rip off artists.

    rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar

    Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D

  • CalmOceansCalmOceans BergenPosts: 2,273Member

    Thanks F2P supporters....can't wait to play Mirror's Edge 2 and having to pay $10 for every jump.

    Can't believe people still support microtransactions, it sucks, sucks, sucks, sucks, it unbalances games, it nickle and dimes you and it gets worse and worse.

    It's even worse on forums of cash-shop games, half the threads are about complaints about microtransactions instead of talking about the game.

    P2P were great the way they were until you people ruined it by taking out your credit card every 2 minutes to buy your potions / coins, whatever.

  • SukiyakiSukiyaki GreenwichPosts: 1,398Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Squeak69
    Originally posted by Sukiyaki

    Because paying EA  or certain other publisher 15$ extra a month for nothing but mere access to your game, certainly stops them trying to milk your money anyways in the bluntest ways possible.

    /sarcasm off

    not to mention the vast increase in standard quality of MMOs since F2P became the norm, with both AAA and lesser titles

    /sarcasm off

    Because these title asking for monthly fees sure all speak for a higher quality standard of P2P MMOs.

    /sarcasm off

    But nice strawman you got there anyways. Tough its kinda wet and squishy.

  • CalmOceansCalmOceans BergenPosts: 2,273Member
    Originally posted by Slampig
    Originally posted by Btk306
    EA can burn in hell.

    I know, all trying to make money and stuff... Those stinkers, lets go pout in the corner!

    Oh yes, poor EA just trying to make a living.....

    .......must be so hard as a CEO living on 6 million dollar a year. How does the poor thing survive.

    Obviously 6 million dollar a year is not enough, you simply can't live on a wage that buys you a new car every week, obviously the only solution is nickle and dime your userbase to shake some more money out of them.

     

  • BizkitNLBizkitNL Posts: 2,280Member

    Now the CEO's salary is used as an argument? Wow.

    Way to completely overdo yourselves in your EA hate. Get a life already.

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  • CalmOceansCalmOceans BergenPosts: 2,273Member
    Originally posted by BizkitNL

    Now the CEO's salary is used as an argument? Wow.

    When someone uses the argument that they are just "trying to make money", yes it is, ESPECIALLY when developers using microtransations always said that F2P was needed for games to survive, when it obviously has only one reason, make as much money as humanly possible disregarding your consumers who are completely against this idea EA put forth.

    When a company said:

    "adding microtransactions is the only way for our games to survive and we can only compete by adding microtransactions"

    I might have said...."ok, I guess you have to do what you have to do".......but when a CEO is making 6 million a year, then no, I don't respect this decision at all, it is nickle and diming your consumer, completely against the interest of the playerbase.

  • StonesDKStonesDK SomewherePosts: 1,805Member
    Originally posted by CalmOceans
    Originally posted by BizkitNL

    Now the CEO's salary is used as an argument? Wow.

    When someone uses the argument that they are just "trying to make money", yes it is, ESPECIALLY when developers using microtransations always said that F2P was needed for games to survive, when it obviously has only one reason, make as much money as humanly possible disregarding your consumers who are completely against this idea EA put forth.

    When a company said:

    "adding microtransactions is the only way for our games to survive and we can only compete by adding microtransactions"

    I might have said...."ok, I guess you have to do what you have to do".......but when a CEO is making 6 million a year, then no, I don't respect this decision at all, it is nickle and diming your consumer, completely against the interest of the playerbase.

    Once again

     

    This is a publicly tradining company. EAs responsibility is to its shareholders and not you. You may have grand illusions on  knowing how to run a big coorporation but fact is you don't so just leave it at that

  • CalmOceansCalmOceans BergenPosts: 2,273Member
    Originally posted by Starpower
    Originally posted by CalmOceans
    Originally posted by BizkitNL

    Now the CEO's salary is used as an argument? Wow.

    When someone uses the argument that they are just "trying to make money", yes it is, ESPECIALLY when developers using microtransations always said that F2P was needed for games to survive, when it obviously has only one reason, make as much money as humanly possible disregarding your consumers who are completely against this idea EA put forth.

    When a company said:

    "adding microtransactions is the only way for our games to survive and we can only compete by adding microtransactions"

    I might have said...."ok, I guess you have to do what you have to do".......but when a CEO is making 6 million a year, then no, I don't respect this decision at all, it is nickle and diming your consumer, completely against the interest of the playerbase.

    Once again

     

    This is a publicly tradining company. EAs responsibility is to its shareholders and not you. You may have grand illusions on  knowing how to run a big coorporation but fact is you don't so just leave it at that

    where have I said anywhere that EA has any responsability to me, it's my right to say their decisions are against consumer interest, regardless if they are traded or not

    EA can do what they want, and I can say what I want about EA

  • StonesDKStonesDK SomewherePosts: 1,805Member
    Originally posted by CalmOceans
    Originally posted by Starpower
    Originally posted by CalmOceans
    Originally posted by BizkitNL

    Now the CEO's salary is used as an argument? Wow.

    When someone uses the argument that they are just "trying to make money", yes it is, ESPECIALLY when developers using microtransations always said that F2P was needed for games to survive, when it obviously has only one reason, make as much money as humanly possible disregarding your consumers who are completely against this idea EA put forth.

    When a company said:

    "adding microtransactions is the only way for our games to survive and we can only compete by adding microtransactions"

    I might have said...."ok, I guess you have to do what you have to do".......but when a CEO is making 6 million a year, then no, I don't respect this decision at all, it is nickle and diming your consumer, completely against the interest of the playerbase.

    Once again

     

    This is a publicly tradining company. EAs responsibility is to its shareholders and not you. You may have grand illusions on  knowing how to run a big coorporation but fact is you don't so just leave it at that

    where have I said anywhere that EA has any responsability to me, it's my right to say their decisions are against consumer interest, regardless if they are traded or not

    EA can do what they want, and I can say what I want about EA

    Of course you can but you may want to think a little about the things you say if you want to make sense

    And you might want to throw in some facts about these "consumers" you are refering to like links etc. just so we know at the very least a guesstimate on how many are against these microtransactions

     

    Why don't you try and sell me on why microtransactions is an unfeasable way to make a lot of money. Because for a company that has to appease stockholders that's what it's all about like it or not

  • WarmakerWarmaker San Diego, CAPosts: 2,231Member

    LOL, EA really wants the "Biggest D-Bag of Gaming" crown back from Activision.  Badly!

    This little scheme by EA is just another in a long line of putting screws to gamers.  Honestly guys, is this news shocking?  Really?  In another words, it's their S.O.P.  And I find it hilariously amusing that there are gamers out there that find it perfectly fine for companies to screw the playerbase over like this.

    On the flipside of that coin, are the fools that will willingly throw and bend themselves over a table for a couple more turns by EA.  Better yet, those that complain about it, but still bend over for EA after all these years.

    Glorious entertainment, really.

    "I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)

  • MindTriggerMindTrigger La Quinta, CAPosts: 2,596Member
    Originally posted by Dihoru
    Originally posted by MindTrigger
    Originally posted by asmkm22
    Originally posted by Wighty

    Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse!

     

    Electronic Arts during a Morgan Stanley Technology, Media, and Telecom Conference stating that the company is so pleased with its forays into the world of microtransactions, that they are bringing the support for these in-house, and that "all" their future games will feature microtransactions.

    "We are building into all of our games the ability to pay for things along the way; to get to a higher level," said EA CFO Blake Jorgensen. "And consumers are enjoying and embracing that way of business."

     

    http://www.develop-online.net/news/43388/EA-taking-microtransactions-in-house

     

    Just goes to show you that this is all just a business and you will be nickel and dimed to death...  While this may pertain to single player and co-op style games, EA also has a host of MMO's. This is why I support Sub style games and independent developers

     

    Everyone wanted F2P, and this is the result.  It's sad, but you reap what you sow.

    I agree completely with this comment.  I've been around here for a long time, and I've heard the whining for F2P from most of you for the last few years.  

    YES, this is a business.  What did you think, OP, that these game developers are making games out of the kindness of their hearts for you to play for free?  Time to join reality.  You guys couldn't be arsed to pay a measly $15 per month for a sub fee, now you've got microtransactions.  These companies have to make money one way or another.  You asked for it, you got it.

    So you're defending EA by blaming us F2Pers? Cool story bro now go cry somewhere else that what was gonna happen anyway happened on F2P's time in the spotlight ( are you seriously gonna say the sympthoms of corporate greed haven't been visible for at least 8 years with the rush of devs to convert their MMOs into WoW clones, the end results of which are well known and include the likes of Star Wars Galaxies New Game Experience and that god awful expansion that neutered Ultima Online).

    'Cool story bro'. How cute. What I'm saying is that there's a huge number of idiots out there who think MMO games should be completely and utterly free.  No sub fee, no cash shop, nothing. They believe these games should justr be handed to them gratis.  I'm not sure who they expect to pay for the creation, support and hosting of these games.

    Perhaps kids around here should grow up and get a job. Maybe they will realize that things cost money, and nothing is for free.  I run my own business and I run into entitled people like this all the time.  When they try to talk my consulting fees down, I tell them no thanks and move on to the next client.

    How do you define corporate greed for an MMO?  What model do you propose they use to make a business out of MMO games if you won't pay for a subscription fee and you don't want microtransactions?  Subscription fees have been about $15 dollars a long as MMOs have been around and have not increased like most other services have.  If you ask me they should be about $30 per month, and for a good game, I would pay it.  You mentioned SWG.  I was once paying SOE $45 per month for three accounts in SWG, and I didn't even blink. I did so for two years.  

    If the games you are choosing hold no value to you, then too bad for you. If a game sucks, don't buy it.  You don't get games for free just because *you* don't think they are worth paying for.

    A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.

  • BladestromBladestrom edinburghPosts: 4,941Member Uncommon
    I believe it costs just under $3 to cover costs of 1 person on a server. I would guess that's why gw2 is making good profits. For $15 dollars I get unlimited broadband and 200 + channels, and here we have publishers trying to get $15 for a single game, greeeeeedy.

    rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar

    Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D

  • UO4everUO4ever LeicesterPosts: 38Member

     

     

    They are out  doing  everybody they can ...

     

     

  • MindTriggerMindTrigger La Quinta, CAPosts: 2,596Member
    Originally posted by Bladestrom
    I believe it costs just under $3 to cover costs of 1 person on a server. I would guess that's why gw2 is making good profits. For $15 dollars I get unlimited broadband and 200 + channels, and here we have publishers trying to get $15 for a single game, greeeeeedy.

    Please show me the math / breakdown / business plan for how you came to "just under 3$" per person as a number that can be generically applied to all MMORPG games.  I need a good laugh today.

    I'm not "defenfing EA" either.  In fact part of the reason people don't put any value on these games is because the game largely suck and are copies of each other.  It hardly matters which one you pick right now because they are so much alike.  As a consumer, you have only one decision to make.  Is the game worth the cost or not?  Is the cost of a new car worth it?  How about a new home entertainment center, or a new home?  You don't get to dictate how much these things cost.  You only decide whether you are going to pay the asking price.  I'm getting the impression most of these comments are coming from kids who are still living at home.

    While you are at it, tell me what provider you are paying $15 a month for unlimted bandwidth and TV service.  I'll also point out that the two services aren't even remotely comparible.

    A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.

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