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  • Superman0XSuperman0X San Jose, CAPosts: 1,608Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by asmkm22
    Originally posted by Wighty

    Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse!

     

    Electronic Arts during a Morgan Stanley Technology, Media, and Telecom Conference stating that the company is so pleased with its forays into the world of microtransactions, that they are bringing the support for these in-house, and that "all" their future games will feature microtransactions.

    "We are building into all of our games the ability to pay for things along the way; to get to a higher level," said EA CFO Blake Jorgensen. "And consumers are enjoying and embracing that way of business."

     

    http://www.develop-online.net/news/43388/EA-taking-microtransactions-in-house

     

    Just goes to show you that this is all just a business and you will be nickel and dimed to death...  While this may pertain to single player and co-op style games, EA also has a host of MMO's. This is why I support Sub style games and independent developers

     

    Everyone wanted F2P, and this is the result.  It's sad, but you reap what you sow.

    Dont worry. This is for P2P. I guess you are correct, you do reap what you sow.

  • jpnzjpnz SydneyPosts: 3,529Member
    If the customer is buying it what's the big issue? Can't fault a business for catering to their customers.

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  • waynejr2waynejr2 West Toluca Lake, CAPosts: 4,481Member Uncommon
    Like it or not, they are just responding to what the marketplace (ie customers) is demonstrating (by spending money) will bring them money. 
  • asmkm22asmkm22 Anchorage, AKPosts: 1,788Member
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by asmkm22
     

    Everyone wanted F2P, and this is the result.  It's sad, but you reap what you sow.

    Yes. What i reap is free fun while whales subsidize my games. Sounds great to me.

    And what you're getting is a game that lacks any sort of depth or immersion, because they're too concnerned with reminding people that there is a cash shop.

    You make me like charity

  • DihoruDihoru ConstantaPosts: 2,731Member
    Originally posted by asmkm22
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by asmkm22
     

    Everyone wanted F2P, and this is the result.  It's sad, but you reap what you sow.

    Yes. What i reap is free fun while whales subsidize my games. Sounds great to me.

    And what you're getting is a game that lacks any sort of depth or immersion, because they're too concnerned with reminding people that there is a cash shop.

    The other side of the "you grinded for 3 weeks getting the latest tier of gear? well then have fun grinding the next after patch day in 2 days!" coin, don't think crappy F2P games don't have polyzygotic twins in the crappy P2P games.

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  • AxehiltAxehilt San Francisco, CAPosts: 8,759Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by asmkm22

    And what you're getting is a game that lacks any sort of depth or immersion, because they're too concnerned with reminding people that there is a cash shop.

    League of Legends lacks depth?

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  • VengeSunsoarVengeSunsoar Posts: 5,316Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Axehilt
    Originally posted by asmkm22

    And what you're getting is a game that lacks any sort of depth or immersion, because they're too concnerned with reminding people that there is a cash shop.

    League of Legends lacks depth?

    Remember Axe.

    Depth is a buzzword with no meaning other than I like this particular feature.

    Old games have no more depth than new games, or any more reasons to explore than new games.

    Quit worrying about other players in a game and just play.

  • DihoruDihoru ConstantaPosts: 2,731Member
    Originally posted by Axehilt
    Originally posted by asmkm22

    And what you're getting is a game that lacks any sort of depth or immersion, because they're too concnerned with reminding people that there is a cash shop.

    League of Legends lacks depth?

    Heh... true... they did say F2P game not F2P MMO so you can also layer onto league of legends: World of tanks, War Thunder, Navyfield 1, Wurm Online, Path of Exile and Mechwarrior Online (which is finally getting bigger maps).

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  • DihoruDihoru ConstantaPosts: 2,731Member
    Originally posted by VengeSunsoar
    Originally posted by Axehilt
    Originally posted by asmkm22

    And what you're getting is a game that lacks any sort of depth or immersion, because they're too concnerned with reminding people that there is a cash shop.

    League of Legends lacks depth?

    Remember Axe.

    Depth is a buzzword with no meaning other than I like this particular feature.

    Old games have no more depth than new games, or any more reasons to explore than new games.

    http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/depth-vs.-complexity really deals with the subject of depth better than I can at the moment.

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  • NildenNilden null, NBPosts: 1,284Member Uncommon

    Well not every consumer shares the same opinion and mine is a big middle finger to EA. So you want to have microtransactions on every game. That means every game will have always online DRM and a cash shop, plus a box price, some day one DLC and all the other crap EA does. The last EA game I got was SWTOR.

    All this does is make it even easier not to buy EA.

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  • VengeSunsoarVengeSunsoar Posts: 5,316Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Dihoru
    Originally posted by VengeSunsoar
    Originally posted by Axehilt
    Originally posted by asmkm22

    And what you're getting is a game that lacks any sort of depth or immersion, because they're too concnerned with reminding people that there is a cash shop.

    League of Legends lacks depth?

    Remember Axe.

    Depth is a buzzword with no meaning other than I like this particular feature.

    Old games have no more depth than new games, or any more reasons to explore than new games.

    http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/depth-vs.-complexity really deals with the subject of depth better than I can at the moment.

    I actually agree with a lot of what the video stated, the problem though is that older games, including MMO did not offer more emergent gameplay or choices in gameplay than new games do.  There were exceptions, UO had more than SWTOR.  However EQ did not have more than WoW, I would argue that WoW skill tree at release (simplified further now though) offered more gameplay than EQ at release.

    So in terms of depth between old and new... IMO it's a wash.

    Quit worrying about other players in a game and just play.

  • Alber_gamerAlber_gamer RomePosts: 557Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by asmkm22
    Originally posted by Justin9820
    Originally posted by asmkm22

    Everyone wanted F2P, and this is the result.  It's sad, but you reap what you sow.

    This is nothing like free to play. this is buying a game and paying more to unlock content that came on a disk you already purchased.

    No, it *is* F2P.  Look at SWtOR to get an idea of what EA wants out of cash shop and DLC stuff.  Where the content comes from is irrelevant these days, because they just want to sell you a stripped down basic version of a game, then sell you content that very well did get created along with the game, as well as find ways of offering you yet more in game chances to buy stuff while playing the game (such as dead space 3 and the crafting).

    The F2P MMO model fits very much into that whole paradigm.

    As the other guy said, it's nothing like Free to play when it comes to EA. What they speak of, is selling you Dead Space 3 for 60 bucks and then asking you 5bucks for extra ammo/weapon/craftable packs. That is what EA is doing alrady, and what they plan to expand and exploit. 

     

    You used to pay 60 bucks for your game and get the full load. It was expensive, yes. But you had bought it, so you could fully enjoy it. EA wants you to pay 60 bucks for the right to play the game, and every little extra penny for the right to enjoy it.

     

    In other words, a scam, and a good reason to sabotage and practice piracy with every and each of their products.

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  • CyborWolfTKCyborWolfTK anywhere, AKPosts: 77Member
    Originally posted by Wighty

    Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse!

     

    Electronic Arts during a Morgan Stanley Technology, Media, and Telecom Conference stating that the company is so pleased with its forays into the world of microtransactions, that they are bringing the support for these in-house, and that "all" their future games will feature microtransactions.

    "We are building into all of our games the ability to pay for things along the way; to get to a higher level," said EA CFO Blake Jorgensen. "And consumers are enjoying and embracing that way of business."

     

    http://www.develop-online.net/news/43388/EA-taking-microtransactions-in-house

     

    Just goes to show you that this is all just a business and you will be nickel and dimed to death...  While this may pertain to single player and co-op style games, EA also has a host of MMO's. This is why I support Sub style games and independent developers

     

     

     People have no one to blame except themselves.

    E.A. Has been a monster now for over a decade, consuming games, and game studios with wild abandon, and then destroying them, and their culture for nothing more then to stuff the pockets of shareholders.

       It is no shock to me that the company is now giddy and flush with revenue, and openly flaunting a system that makes them obsene profits.

     

     E.A. IMHO is the worst of the worst, a gigantic behemoth hell bent on the detruction of EVERY game it can get it's slimey claws on in the name of the god profit.

     

    I cannot spew any worse hatred and vitriol on any single one gameing entity then E.A.

    A torterous death would be to good of a fate.

     

    I HATE E.A. AND WILL NEVER BUY ANY TITLE ASSOCISATED WITH THEM!

     

     

     

     

  • SlampigSlampig Chantilly, VAPosts: 2,376Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Btk306
    EA can burn in hell.

    I know, all trying to make money and stuff... Those stinkers, lets go pout in the corner!

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  • DihoruDihoru ConstantaPosts: 2,731Member
    Originally posted by Slampig
    Originally posted by Btk306
    EA can burn in hell.

    I know, all trying to make money and stuff... Those stinkers, lets go pout in the corner!

    Trying to make money = ok, a hot dog vendor is trying to make money and I respect that person

    Trying to make money and rip you off doing it = not ok, a hot dog vendor that sells you the bun, the sausage and the condiments independently of each other and at a inflated price.

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  • asmkm22asmkm22 Anchorage, AKPosts: 1,788Member
    Originally posted by Axehilt
    Originally posted by asmkm22

    And what you're getting is a game that lacks any sort of depth or immersion, because they're too concnerned with reminding people that there is a cash shop.

    League of Legends lacks depth?

    Yes.  It has complexity.

    You make me like charity

  • KaeriganKaerigan None Of Your BusinessPosts: 689Member
    Why the hell are people calling this F2P? I can guarantee that the majority (probably all) the games EA will release in the next few years will have an up-front price AND the whole microtransactions shenanigans. So if anything, it's the WoW model, pay-to-pay (yes, I meant pay-to-pay, that is not a typo), except for singleplayer games.

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  • Alber_gamerAlber_gamer RomePosts: 557Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Kaerigan
    Why the hell are people calling this F2P? I can guarantee that the majority (probably all) the games EA will release in the next few years will have an up-front price AND the whole microtransactions shenanigans. So if anything, it's the WoW model, pay-to-pay (yes, I meant pay-to-pay, that is not a typo), except for singleplayer games.

     Even in single player games you already have to "pay-to-pay" with EA. I'll note again the recent case of Dead Space 3, where after paying 60 bucks for the game, they charge you extra cash for packs with ammo or crafting materials. They even said somwhere that people spending hours to farm materials through respawn points instead of buying them off the shop were basically thieves. It's disgusting, really.

     

    Sabotage this crap company, they deserve to burn.

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  • snapfusionsnapfusion San, CAPosts: 954Member
    Originally posted by Justin9820
    Originally posted by asmkm22

    Everyone wanted F2P, and this is the result.  It's sad, but you reap what you sow.

    This is nothing like free to play. this is buying a game and paying more to unlock content that came on a disk you already purchased.

    You missed the point Justin.

  • greenreengreenreen Punchoo, AKPosts: 2,101Member Uncommon

    ahahaha the marketers win

    well I know one company to avoid now

  • valkerusvalkerus northville, MIPosts: 58Member
    ummmmm, is this not capitalism? If there was nobody buying these items they would call the model failed not expanding it. God, no wonder this country is becoming a socialistic nightmare.  I deserve free games with all content!!! I deserve a free phone!!! Free healthcare!!!! Rich people are bad!!!!  Companies being profit driven are evil!!!!
  • FearumFearum Cinnaminson, NJPosts: 1,166Member Uncommon
    Tis a sad time for gamers. We are only looked at like drooling ATM machines and it seems a lot of players are ok with it and want them to look at us this way.
  • KaeriganKaerigan None Of Your BusinessPosts: 689Member
    Originally posted by Alber_gamer
    Originally posted by Kaerigan
    Why the hell are people calling this F2P? I can guarantee that the majority (probably all) the games EA will release in the next few years will have an up-front price AND the whole microtransactions shenanigans. So if anything, it's the WoW model, pay-to-pay (yes, I meant pay-to-pay, that is not a typo), except for singleplayer games.

     Even in single player games you already have to "pay-to-pay" with EA. I'll note again the recent case of Dead Space 3, where after paying 60 bucks for the game, they charge you extra cash for packs with ammo or crafting materials. They even said somwhere that people spending hours to farm materials through respawn points instead of buying them off the shop were basically thieves. It's disgusting, really.

     

    Sabotage this crap company, they deserve to burn.

    I think Dead Space 3 actually was their "trial run" with this shit. Apparently they earned lots of moola so of course they're gonna implement it in their future titles. People are idiots.

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  • PyrateLVPyrateLV Las Vegas, NVPosts: 1,096Member Common
    Originally posted by Wighty
     

    Electronic Arts during a Morgan Stanley Technology, Media, and Telecom Conference stating that the company is so pleased with its forays into the world of microtransactions, that they are bringing the support for these in-house, and that "all" their future games will feature microtransactions.
     

    Lest anyone should forget. These are some of the SOBs who are responsible for the housing and economic crash

    Figures EA would announce its foray into MTs at a conference held by these thieves

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  • greenreengreenreen Punchoo, AKPosts: 2,101Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Fearum
    Tis a sad time for gamers. We are only looked at like drooling ATM machines and it seems a lot of players are ok with it and want them to look at us this way.

    That's because other people think YOU will pay for them. They don't expect you to ever run out of money to fund them or get sick of it. I don't know about you but I'm childless for a reason and one of them is kids=micro-transactions.

     

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