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THIS NEW TESO news is going to shock you all, literally.

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  • MarirranyaMarirranya Ortario, OHPosts: 154Member
    as long as spacebar skips im good :3

    There are people who play games and then there are gamers.

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  • niceguy3978niceguy3978 Gainesville, FLPosts: 2,000Member
    Originally posted by archeageking

    anyway i just saw it on the headline today, i woudl buy eso but now with voice overs i dont think i will now. 

    only because i got burned by swtor, it will not be a day 1 purchase for me. Had i never knew they were going to put full voice overs in the game i would probably buy it the day its released, but this news im not so sure now, big chance its not a day 1 purchase fo me. i will sit on the side line and see how it goes.

    This implies that you think the voice overs were the reason TOR didn't last or wasn't good for you.  I loved the voice overs, but everything else was pretty shallow.   The only really bad thing about the voice over stories in TOR is that I don't think they will ever expand the class quests because of the costs associated with it.  Which is a shame because that was the best part of the game.

  • ClassicstarClassicstar rotjeknorPosts: 2,690Member

    Another themepark copying what other themepark already have no big deal.

    TESO is made only to be a money cow so they hope and earned money hopefully for them, when it all fails also end of bethesda unless the most talented keep making solo elder scrolls which i doub very much at this point, future will tell offocrse.

    This game as so many big games will be same story all over again, you all follow hype then you find out its all of same or not made to your personal taste and come to forums whine about it, and waiting for next big thing comming around and it all rinse and repeat so predictable lol.

    Im only interested in the elder scrolls solo games.

    All tho its nice following this game see how this more and more over hyped themepark making same mistake again?... :)

    I could offcorse be mistaken and it will be the best ever mmo in history of mmorpgs, if it was realy made by bethesda themselfs but that's very doubful.

    We see soon enough its good or bad mmo.

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  • FishmittsFishmitts doylestown, PAPosts: 227Member
    Originally posted by BizkitNL
    Yeah, man. Nothing like a bunch of voice-overs to really ruin my gaming experience.

    "cooled down". Just sayn. :)

     

  • RobokappRobokapp Dublin, OHPosts: 5,205Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by stealthbr
    I'm not quite sure I understand some of you. You ask for the developers to stay as true as possible to the Elder Scrolls franchise, yet when they announce that the game is fully voiced, you complain? I don't remember encountering any wall of text when interacting with NPC's in Skyrim or Oblivion.

    i thought they're making an MMO.

     

     

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  • CrazyhorsekCrazyhorsek LisboaPosts: 244Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    Originally posted by stealthbr
    I'm not quite sure I understand some of you. You ask for the developers to stay as true as possible to the Elder Scrolls franchise, yet when they announce that the game is fully voiced, you complain? I don't remember encountering any wall of text when interacting with NPC's in Skyrim or Oblivion.

    i thought they're making an MMO.

     

     

    And... you thought MMOs had to have massive walls of text instead of actually listening to the voice of the character giving it a real personality and distinction. Ok then... back to MUDs you go!

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  • evilastroevilastro EdinburghPosts: 4,270Member
    Originally posted by archeageking

    Get ready for those of you who is waiting on TESO, todays new info just literally shocked me like really really really shocked me.

     

    Get ready, drum rolls please.............ITS ITS http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/zenimax-gets-vocal-about-the-elder-scrolls-online/

     

    Elder scrolls will have full voice overs, DEJA VU anyone ?? ANYONE? someone didnt learn a lesson from swtor, its  a sad sa  sad sad news. i know you all must be shocked and disbelived right about now....

     

     

    me too.

    im sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

    Voiceovers can be done on the cheap ala TSW.  SWTOR went and got well known voice actors to do the job.

    Also could you imagine SWTOR without voice acting? It would be terrible. Voice acting turned a mediocre game into a fun game for a few months.  

  • tom_goretom_gore TamperePosts: 1,796Member Uncommon

    Full voiceovers can be done wrong (like in SWTOR) and they can be done right (like in TSW). Every damn sidequest doesn't need a boring voiceover with redundant "choices" to make. TSW's voiceovers and cutscenes brought out the atmosphere of the game out better than any multiple choice dialogue ever could.

     

  • tom_goretom_gore TamperePosts: 1,796Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by evilastro
    Originally posted by archeageking

    Get ready for those of you who is waiting on TESO, todays new info just literally shocked me like really really really shocked me.

     

    Get ready, drum rolls please.............ITS ITS http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/zenimax-gets-vocal-about-the-elder-scrolls-online/

     

    Elder scrolls will have full voice overs, DEJA VU anyone ?? ANYONE? someone didnt learn a lesson from swtor, its  a sad sa  sad sad news. i know you all must be shocked and disbelived right about now....

     

     

    me too.

    im sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

    Voiceovers can be done on the cheap ala TSW.  SWTOR went and got well known voice actors to do the job.

    Also could you imagine SWTOR without voice acting? It would be terrible. Voice acting turned a mediocre game into a fun game for a few months.  

    I hated SWTORs voiceovers after an hour of playing. Having my character repeat the same reply for the 12th time probably did it.

     

  • RattenmannRattenmann ReitmehringPosts: 510Member Uncommon

    I almost never read questtext, i keep clicking on stuff untill i get a "bling" sound that tells me i have a new quest. Same goes for my GF (even worse then for me). Yet i still love the storys some quests have,.. just that i miss most of them, due to me not wanting to read textwalls.

     

    Voiceovers are the single best invention hitting the MMO market since EQ1 in my book.

    MMOs finally replaced social interaction, forced grouping and standing in a line while talking to eachother.

    Now we have forced soloing, forced questing and everyone is the hero, without ever having to talk to anyone else. The evolution of multiplayer is here! We won,... right?

  • DavisFlightDavisFlight Talahasee, FLPosts: 2,556Member
    Originally posted by snipehack
    I truly see nothing wrong with this

    You see nothing wrong with dumping tons of money into voice acting, at the detriment of the rest of the game?

  • RattenmannRattenmann ReitmehringPosts: 510Member Uncommon
    lol, by that logic we could bash the game for EVERY single feature (even the greatest ones), due to them costing cash and taking it "away" from other things.

    MMOs finally replaced social interaction, forced grouping and standing in a line while talking to eachother.

    Now we have forced soloing, forced questing and everyone is the hero, without ever having to talk to anyone else. The evolution of multiplayer is here! We won,... right?

  • MishakaiMishakai westminster, COPosts: 105Member
    Originally posted by DavisFlight
    Originally posted by snipehack
    I truly see nothing wrong with this

    You see nothing wrong with dumping tons of money into voice acting, at the detriment of the rest of the game?

    I don't follow your logic here.  How is investing in voice acting always at a detriment to the rest of the game?

    I could make the same argument that hiring someone to spend hours typing in quest text in multiple languages is a detriment to the rest of the game.

    What's the difference?

     

  • KanesterKanester WalesPosts: 374Member Uncommon

    Voice overs are fine, Are you implying just because SWTOR had them any game that has them after that is going to be bad?

    Come on!

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  • ReklawReklaw Am.Posts: 6,478Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by DavisFlight
    Originally posted by snipehack
    I truly see nothing wrong with this

    You see nothing wrong with dumping tons of money into voice acting, at the detriment of the rest of the game?

    How's voice action: Tons of money?

    Not saying it doesn't cost anything, but you know tech is pretty quick these day's, developers do not have to program the lip-movements anymore, it just auto sinks lips with spoken text. An voice actor can speak what?.....50/100 quest missions in an hour? You have several voice actors in for a day, see what amount of speech they can deliver in one day? All this is stored and when needed used.

    Yes it cost money to maintain these things....but tons of money, nah not really, the amount of overal tech used either home build engine or licenced engine, the total amount of people working on the game, there's your tons of money......

  • deakondeakon birminghamPosts: 583Member


    Originally posted by DavisFlight You see nothing wrong with dumping tons of money into voice acting, at the detriment of the rest of the game?
     

    If having voice work costs so much its detrimental to games, why is it every genre of game that isn't an mmo have been fully voiced for years (over a decade now)?

    There is no evidence that having VO costs "tons" and VO being detrimental to games is the opposite of what the evidence shows us, the better games have gotten at telling a good story the more the games industry has grown

  • RobokappRobokapp Dublin, OHPosts: 5,205Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by deakon

     


    Originally posted by DavisFlight

     

    You see nothing wrong with dumping tons of money into voice acting, at the detriment of the rest of the game?


     

     

    If having voice work costs so much its detrimental to games, why is it every genre of game that isn't an mmo have been fully voiced for years (over a decade now)?

    There is no evidence that having VO costs "tons" and VO being detrimental to games is the opposite of what the evidence shows us, the better games have gotten at telling a good story the more the games industry has grown

    there's no evidence...yet nobody did it except swtor and its astronomical budget.

     

    empirical evidence counts ?

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  • CrazyhorsekCrazyhorsek LisboaPosts: 244Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by tom_gore
     

    I hated SWTORs voiceovers after an hour of playing. Having my character repeat the same reply for the 12th time probably did it.

     

    True... BUT after only half an hour of Skyrim you prolly go beserk the next time someone says "looking to protect yourself... or deal some damage?" lol

    Seriously tho... I dont know why this is "NEWS" since it was obvious that TES would be fully voiced lol... 

    second... I find it funny that people actually think that what went wrong with SWTOR was directly or indirectly because it was fully voiced... I mean... no. lol Actually that part was the GOOD part of SWTOR... and if you think that was the bad part, then... wow wonder what you thought of the rest of the game lol

    Hope they get patrick stewart for an epic opening scene like Oblivion... 

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  • deakondeakon birminghamPosts: 583Member
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    Originally posted by deakon

     


    Originally posted by DavisFlight

     

    You see nothing wrong with dumping tons of money into voice acting, at the detriment of the rest of the game?


     

     

    If having voice work costs so much its detrimental to games, why is it every genre of game that isn't an mmo have been fully voiced for years (over a decade now)?

    There is no evidence that having VO costs "tons" and VO being detrimental to games is the opposite of what the evidence shows us, the better games have gotten at telling a good story the more the games industry has grown

    there's no evidence...yet nobody did it except swtor and its astronomical budget.

     

    empirical evidence counts ?

     

     

    Is swtor the only fully voiced game in existance? No. Do all fully voiced games have close to swtors budget? Nope. Does one point make a trend? Nope. Did bioware austin exist before swtor went into developement? Nope. Was it created specifically for swtor? Yup. Was swtor the biggest vo project ever made? Yup. Does any of this suggest teso will be the same as swtor in this regard? Nope

  • ggregdggregd St. Louis, MOPosts: 8Member
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    Originally posted by deakon

     


    Originally posted by DavisFlight

     

    You see nothing wrong with dumping tons of money into voice acting, at the detriment of the rest of the game?


     

     

    If having voice work costs so much its detrimental to games, why is it every genre of game that isn't an mmo have been fully voiced for years (over a decade now)?

    There is no evidence that having VO costs "tons" and VO being detrimental to games is the opposite of what the evidence shows us, the better games have gotten at telling a good story the more the games industry has grown

    there's no evidence...yet nobody did it except swtor and its astronomical budget.

     

    empirical evidence counts ?

    Empirical evidence requires more than one observation.  The reason this is so "shocking" here is that the MMPRPG.com community will jump on anything they can twist into a negative to say bad things about a game.  People here hate games.

    And "Literally" shocking means electricity is running through my body.  The other definition of shocking is purely figurative, thus "literally shocking" is an oxymoron.

  • ComafComaf Chicago, ILPosts: 1,154Member Common

    Voiceovers are a good thing.  ESO isn't going to have 2 limited factions with extremely yawnfest driven pve and the kind of pvp that brought me back to being a kid on a playground for capture the flag.

     

    EverQuest 2 originally had a considerable amount of voice dialogue, and Age of Conan also featured a large amount of voiced-over quests, particularly in the early Tortage levels...and it was very cool and one of the few good aspects of those two titles.

     

    So grats to ESO for taking a good aspect and adding it to a title that already has more depth and variation than anything on the market since Dark Age of Camelot.

     

    Cheers!

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    How black and white can you get? VO does not automatically equal a bad game. Skyrim has lots of VO and it's one of the best games I've ever played. 

    SWTOR was bad for many reasons, but VO was not one of them.

     

  • RobokappRobokapp Dublin, OHPosts: 5,205Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ggregd
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    Originally posted by deakon

     


    Originally posted by DavisFlight

     

    You see nothing wrong with dumping tons of money into voice acting, at the detriment of the rest of the game?


     

     

    If having voice work costs so much its detrimental to games, why is it every genre of game that isn't an mmo have been fully voiced for years (over a decade now)?

    There is no evidence that having VO costs "tons" and VO being detrimental to games is the opposite of what the evidence shows us, the better games have gotten at telling a good story the more the games industry has grown

    there's no evidence...yet nobody did it except swtor and its astronomical budget.

     

    empirical evidence counts ?

    Empirical evidence requires more than one observation.  The reason this is so "shocking" here is that the MMPRPG.com community will jump on anything they can twist into a negative to say bad things about a game.  People here hate games.

    And "Literally" shocking means electricity is running through my body.  The other definition of shocking is purely figurative, thus "literally shocking" is an oxymoron.

    i have a hard time understanding how the one existing datapoint shows one thing yet you choose to interpret exactly the opposite because it doesn't form a trend.

     

    it's all the data we have and it's not in your favor.

     

    And this is why haters will ...okay, I'm trying to say this without trolling, being purely honest. pls dont ban...and this is why haters will tear your game apart once it fails. Because right now you're blindly scremaing irrational nonsense, so when you're proven wrong there'll be an army to rub it in.

     

    i've seen this before countless times. remember FFXIV ? remember WAR? when the forums were screaming "WoW = Waiting on Warhammer" ? remember what happened after release?

     

    well when that one point becomes a trend, 'they' will be here pointing out the trend. meanwhile your precious mmo will have been sacrificed in the name of overhyping and irrational expectations. Like most mmo's post 2007, really.

     

    you're killing your own game. Stop it. these irrational claims that VOs are somehow good will start a snowball effect that will slaughter TESO hopelessly.

     

    aaanyway. I guess I'll reply when my ban's lifted.

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  • YamotaYamota LondonPosts: 6,620Member

    Obviously VOs are not inherently bad, it is good. However resources, meaning money, is not infinite so if they spend resources on VOs for sure some other aspect of the game will suffer. Gameplay, most likely.

    I would personally see that money spent on unlocking the three different factions. That is far more important than some NPC AI, following some scripted dialogue.

  • Xstatic912Xstatic912 New York, NYPosts: 365Member
    Originally posted by Yamota

    Obviously VOs are not inherently bad, it is good. However resources, meaning money, is not infinite so if they spend resources on VOs for sure some other aspect of the game will suffer. Gameplay, most likely.

    I would personally see that money spent on unlocking the three different factions. That is far more important than some NPC AI, following some scripted dialogue.

    THIS guys has the right idea.... I love the immersion VO have, but what if said VO are cheesy and not well done, then my freind you have just wasted money on a feature that, that said money could be used one somethign else.. 

     

    Well put Yamota...

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