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"US free-to-play audience outnumbers pay-to-play 6 to 1"
nariusseldon
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http://www.superdataresearch.com/us-free-to-play-does-it-pay-to-switch/
"If you were to look at the growth of the audience alone, the market for F2P games is substantially larger than that for pay-to-play. Six times larger, in fact."
"Subscription-based MMOs have been on a decline in the US, dropping from 8.5MM in December 2009 to 6.7MM in October 2012."
"So, yes, it would appear that F2P may be a viable revenue model, partly because of the large number of gamers it attracts. But traffic alone is not a definitive measure of success. Overall spending may follow a very different trend depending on a game’s life cycle, player base and genre.
The good news is that in 2012, F2P MMOs made more than their P2P counterparts, capturing the majority of the MMO US market’s revenue. The tricky part lies in how to capture and replicate this success."
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Kind of screw at a glance, it is counting b2p as f2p also, and games that weren't.
I prefer a sub, then the game doesn't need to bleed 10% of the population dry for cash, and everyone is on the same playing field. Not all are p2w, but if you are selling xp potions and such, it is not a even playing field imo....I know someone having more playing time than someone else isn't even either....and all the other arguments...I also think it is easier to deter certain behaviors in a game that is paid for, verse 100% f2p from buying to playing....Not that all companies take advantage of this that do charge.
Great for the game hopper, but not what I am looking for. I am not against playing a f2p, but if certain things are happening in it, then I will not try it.
Poor pleople outnumbers rich people like 1000(made up) to 1
but yea ...
Every mmorpg wishes to be P2P or B2P but usually they cant
+ say what you want. B2P or P2P communities are 1000x better than ANY F2P games. They dont last /stick with the games, they are not loyal and most of these F2P players are just looking for FREE fun, they like to troll, etc.
F2P loyalty is also I'll bet a lot lower as well.
F2P attracts more players but it doesn't nessisarily mean it keeps those players or that people will spend their cash willingly on the game. When something to is F2P it means you get
1.) People willing to try it not having to spend a cent that would otherwise not bother.
2.) Kids who have no money and as such can only play F2P
3.) 'Migrators' who tend to play games and move on quickly, often without spending a cent.
That and considering the ratio of F2P versus P2P, I'd say its not to hard to believe that number would be that large due to the fact there just is a lot more games out there on that side to help push that number higher.
Same thoughts here.
+1 exactly
your parents are wise !
My mind is officially blown! People want something for nothing? Who would have thought!
I prefer P2P, and if the game was great i would pay way more than 15 a month.
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I completely agree.
I'd prefer to pay a subscription and have a small but stable community over the revolving door that f2p encourages.
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Actually League of Legends, you don't have to spend any money, they have a good system, money is just needed for skins/looks on your characters, so it is cosmetic. You can buy stuff, like heros, but you can get all that stuff by playing. I don't consider it a mmo though.
I just like to know what I am going to be paying, and that everyone is on a 'even' playingfield as far as in game goes. I think someone could stop a lot of the gold selling, and cheating a lot better if it was a bought game. If you have a trial, then you limit activities, that could result in farming/spamming the paying community. That way someone can try the game, but not disrupt the game.
This. /thread
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Box plus sub doesnt bother me at all.
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Waiting on: Ashes of Creation
most of the ppl on this site don't play mmos anymore. They just come here to complain about them.
I don't care about the box price.
Look, they, like you, have a job to make money. Millions of dollars are spent to make these things. Have you ever really looked at how little money "just" a subscription brings in?
It's nothing. If I had a company and I was just going to charge a subscrtiption I wouldn't have that company. so the box price does bring in a large chunk of money to help get some of the cost of the development.
I don't begrudge people and companies making money fairly. You do it, I do it, presumably the companies we work for do it.
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I kinda dont care about the money if its worth it ... I dont understand how something like subscription/copy of game can be problem for someone? Everyone is spending 10x more on cigarets, alcohol, fast foods, etc. that gives you nothing..
Box + subscription = no problem if the game is worth it. I am even willing to pay A LOT more if its worth it! If Final Fantasy XIV ARR is what I hope it will be, man I would even pay 100 euro for subscription per month:) So yea.. I am happy its copy + subcscription based !
What is 60 euro (box) + 13 euro per month for subscription for something you play every day for several years? NOTHING
For me the subscription equals good game, good gameplay. more content, better community
When games go F2P it either means they cant afford some of these things or they heavyly rely on cash shop.
same, although for the first time in my life I spent cash on a F2P game this month. Path of Exile, the first game I have ever even thought of spending a dime.
There must be tons of us out there, that register, download, play 30 mins of a game and uninstall. Thats how I have ended every single F2P MMO I have tried. Runes of Magic, actually lasted the longest, a whole 2 days.
We play, just usually ends in disappointment the last 6 years or so, and the disappointment seems to happen at a quicker pace as those years have gone on it seems.
Some are decent, but flawed, nothing to keep you playing, besides mindless daily stuff that is limited to a set timer.
Looking forward to ArcheAge and EQNext, hopefully one of them, or both are done well. Not too excited about EQNext being f2p, if they stick with that.
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Biggest change is that MMOs used to be worth Buying and Paying a sub, games these days arnt worth the money and thus F2P is getting huge, we honoestly shouldnt be encouraging this type of behavior.
A good game is worth Buying and Paying a subscription
Mess with the best, Die like the rest
Wel imo, people that p2p, feel obligated to play the game, where people that f2p dont.
And if they want to spend money on the game they will, so yeah i think that there r more fp2 then p2p gamers